If you are an expert, don't read this because you will probably find hundreds of mistakes that I made while on cycle and during PCT. This thread is basically for newbies to read so they know exactly what to expect when doing a first cycle. It took me about 18 months of reading on this website so gather the (limited) knowledge I have so I plan to put it all on show in here.
I have been training at the gym for about 5 years however well over 12 months of that has been to do rehab for my shoulder during which I lost heaps of muscle mass which is why I turned to steroids. I wanted to get back to where I would have been if I hadn't hurt my shoulder.
I'm not a big guy, 5'11'', and my build is pretty darn thin. I put on a fair bit of muscle naturally before my shoulder so I figured I had a reasonable base to start steroids from. Now I should point out that many people believe doing steroids too early can limit the amount of total size you can put on but I never plan to be a superhuge guy. I play football (Australian rules) so I need to be athletic as well so it didn't bother me too much that I couldn't end up like Arnie one day.
Cycle
200mg testosterone enanthate (test e) per week for nine weeks.
I injected 100mg every 3.5 days.
Injecting
Test e needs to be injected every 3.5 days so I did it wednesday nights and sunday mornings.
My first injection was done by a friend who I got the gear from. My plan was to get him to jab me everytime because there was no way I was going to be able to do it myself. When it was time for my second shot, he was away for the weekend so I had to do it myself. I loaded up the needle and tried to do it but I couldn't bring myself to do it. It took me probably 20 minutes of weighing up whether I should just stop the cycle after one shot or keep going doing it myself. In the end I just did it and it wasn't that bad! I was so nervous that I forgot to aspirate but I didn't care because I had done the first shot.
Every shot after that got easier and easier, even to the point where I was getting that good at it, I almost enjoyed doing it. I would get excited when it was an injecting day and get a kick out of doing it.
After about 6 weeks the needle started hurting as it went in. My skin had gotten harder at the injection sites (both glutes) so i had to put a bit of extra pressure on the needle to push it in. Once it was about halfway in I would hit another bit of hard tissue (i'm assuming scar tissue?) and it hurt a fair bit to push through but it was only for a second or so and once it was in there was no pain at all.
These are the steps of how I injected. I'm not saying you should do it this way, it's just the way I did it.
1. clean steroid vial and injection site with an alcoholic wipe
2. attach large needle to syringe (i used a 21 gauge I think)
3. Draw in as many cc's/ml of air equal to the amount of steroid you plan to inject. I was doing 1 cc so I would draw in 1cc of air
4. Put needle into vial and push in the air. If you don't do this you won't be able to extract the juice because of a vacuum in the vial.
5. Draw out the required amount of juice and pull out the needle
6. There is still some juice in the needle so draw back a little bit more until you have some air in the syringe.
7. Change needle to a smaller one (i think I used 25 gauge)
8. Squeeze out a little bit of juice to lube the needle
9. Flick syringe with your finger to remove air bubbles
10. put the needle in
11. aspirate (pull back on the plunger a tiny bit. if you get blood you have to start again. if it's air it's ok) I found it really hard to aspirate at first but got used to it in the end
12. inject the juice slowly at around 1cc every 30 seconds
13. pull out the needle
14. use another alcohol wipe to clean the area
I injected into my glutes for the duration of the cycle. Wednesday's I did right glute, Sunday's was the left glute. I injected in the outer upper part of my arse.
Side Effects
I got a lot hairier all over and was very snappy. I'd even smash the steering wheel if I just missed a set of lights at times. My nuts shrunk a fair bit but I still had a decent sized load and I was horny pretty much all the time.
PCT (Post cycle Therapy)
This is the most important part of doing a cycle. Without any PCT you will most likely lose all your gains and end up with bitch tits (gyno).
Now that you have stopped injecting testosterone, you need to tell your body to start producing it again. Clomid does this for you. It will raise your testosterone levels to normal but it won't elevate them above normal so don't bother trying.
When you finish your cycle you have a whole lot of estrogen running through your system. You need to make your body as immune as possible to estrogen. You do this by taking Nolvadex which blocks the estrogen receptors. You will still have high levels of estrogen but your body won't utilise it, which is good.
I live in Australia so the only place I could think of getting Clomid and Nolvadex is from AR-R.com. They send it out and if it gets picked up by customs they will just resend it.
From my reading I learned that you should start PCT 14 days after the last injection of test e. I did this taking 20mg Nolvadex and 100mg Clomid everyday. I did Nolva for three weeks and Clomid for only 12 days (because a friend of mine didn't order his clomid so I had to give him half of mine). Nolvadex has a mint taste and I noticed no side effects from it but Clomid was the exact opposite. It burns going down and tastes like crap! Side effects from Clomid included blurred vision and the feeling that I was on a ship at sea. Whenever I sat still it felt like i was moving up and down. I also waxed my chest around the time I started PCT and I developed a rash. It looked like my chest was covered with ingrown hairs but there were none to be found. It went away about a week after I finished PCT.
Gains
I put on about 11 pounds from my cycle. I also cut up big time, losing some body fat so I think it's fair to say I gained about 13 or 14 pounds of muscle. My biceps increased by 3cm! I had people coming up to me from all over the place saying how big I look. I gained a lot more respect from a lot of the bigger guys at my gym, some of which even ask my advice now on new exercises and programs. In addition to this I had a guy come up and ask how I got so cut up, it's fantastic.
Next time
I plan to do another cycle, probably my last one, in a few months. A rule of thumb is to be off steroids as long as you are on them. I am going to do a stack of test e and deca I think although the test worked so well for me by itself I might just up the dose on that, I don't know yet.
I also expected the steroids to do a lot of the work on their own. While I knew I had to work hard and eat properly, I didn't realise that without the hard work, proper diet and heaps of sleep, you won't gain a single pound. I know now a lot more about how to live when on cycle so hopefully I can carry it over and make more gains next time.
Feel Free to ask me any questions about my cycle but don't ask for advice because even though I have been reading for 18 months on this topic, I am still very new and have limited knowledge.
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Originally Posted by Manpretty
Also in your next cycle try shooting in your qauds, I put it off for years and when I did it I was amazed at how easy it was, and it will also give you extra sites to chose from and give the scsar tissue a chance to recover
