Decided DBOL only

[Kristofer68ss]

ok, if brown rice is not slow enough for you, get your carbs from corn syrup then.

GI and GL for Common Foods
Food GI Serving Size Net Carbs GL
Peanuts 14 4 oz (113g) 15 2
Bean sprouts 25 1 cup (104g) 4 1
Grapefruit 25 1/2 large (166g) 11 3
Pizza 30 2 slices (260g) 42 13
Lowfat yogurt 33 1 cup (245g) 47 16
Apples 38 1 medium (138g) 16 6
Spaghetti 42 1 cup (140g) 38 16
Carrots 47 1 large (72g) 5 2
Oranges 48 1 medium (131g) 12 6
Bananas 52 1 large (136g) 27 14
Potato chips 54 4 oz (114g) 55 30
Snickers Bar 55 1 bar (113g) 64 35
Brown rice 55 1 cup (195g) 42 23
Honey 55 1 tbsp (21g) 17 9
Oatmeal 58 1 cup (234g) 21 12
Ice cream 61 1 cup (72g) 16 10
Macaroni and cheese 64 1 serving (166g) 47 30
Raisins 64 1 small box (43g) 32 20
White rice 64 1 cup (186g) 52 33
Sugar (sucrose) 68 1 tbsp (12g) 12 8
White bread 70 1 slice (30g) 14 10
Watermelon 72 1 cup (154g) 11 8
Popcorn 72 2 cups (16g) 10 7
Baked potato 85 1 medium (173g) 33 28
Glucose 100 (50g) 50 50

[ChiTownTommy]

how is your water retention?

[soulstealer]

how is your water retention?

Very low as can expected with such a low dose

[soulstealer]

ok, if brown rice is not slow enough for you, get your carbs from corn syrup then.

GI and GL for Common Foods
Food GI Serving Size Net Carbs GL
Peanuts 14 4 oz (113g) 15 2
Bean sprouts 25 1 cup (104g) 4 1
Grapefruit 25 1/2 large (166g) 11 3
Pizza 30 2 slices (260g) 42 13
Lowfat yogurt 33 1 cup (245g) 47 16
Apples 38 1 medium (138g) 16 6
Spaghetti 42 1 cup (140g) 38 16
Carrots 47 1 large (72g) 5 2
Oranges 48 1 medium (131g) 12 6
Bananas 52 1 large (136g) 27 14
Potato chips 54 4 oz (114g) 55 30
Snickers Bar 55 1 bar (113g) 64 35
Brown rice 55 1 cup (195g) 42 23
Honey 55 1 tbsp (21g) 17 9
Oatmeal 58 1 cup (234g) 21 12
Ice cream 61 1 cup (72g) 16 10
Macaroni and cheese 64 1 serving (166g) 47 30
Raisins 64 1 small box (43g) 32 20
White rice 64 1 cup (186g) 52 33
Sugar (sucrose) 68 1 tbsp (12g) 12 8
White bread 70 1 slice (30g) 14 10
Watermelon 72 1 cup (154g) 11 8
Popcorn 72 2 cups (16g) 10 7
Baked potato 85 1 medium (173g) 33 28
Glucose 100 (50g) 50 50

You cant lump all brown or all white rice into one category research it bud... there are other factors that play into the GI of the rice

[soulstealer]

Current body weight.. 267 with noticeable strength gains... I think that I am retaining a few lbs of water but nothing crazy... not too bloated... at all...

[hanibal829]

Got any updated pics man?

[soulstealer]

Got any updated pics man?

No unfortunately, I am waiting for a dig camera my phone sux ass you cant see crap with it... I'll be posting some new soon....

[ChiTownTommy]

No unfortunately, I am waiting for a dig camera my phone sux ass you cant see crap with it... I'll be posting some new soon....

can you see a change in your body?

[soulstealer]

can you see a change in your body?

Absolutely I noticed, my chest and shoulders are filling in (started hitting em harder) and my back is getting thicker...also a small reduction in my bf% which is surprising considering the small dose

[soulstealer]

Since my last post got erased... I decided to skip the 15mg step and drop to 10mg ed..... I started on Sunday. Only doing this so that I can get a month off before my next real cycle... which I'm planning for May 1st

[K.Biz]

this is by far thw worst cycle decision by anyone i have seen in a long time, or mabye since i joined the boards.

Goodluck on loosing all your gains bro

[K.Biz]

Since my last post got erased... I decided to skip the 15mg step and drop to 10mg ed..... I started on Sunday. Only doing this so that I can get a month off before my next real cycle... which I'm planning for May 1st

Your real cycle? dude DBOL is a real cycle. and your going to be comming off dbol what? next week, then u have a pct? and u finish your PCT and go right into a new cycle? as Snrf said above "Your an idiot"

some people amaze me

[MartyMcFly]

Your real cycle? dude DBOL is a real cycle. and your going to be comming off dbol what? next week, then u have a pct? and u finish your PCT and go right into a new cycle? as Snrf said above "Your an idiot"

some people amaze me

He is not doing a PCT!!!!!!

[Random]

some people amaze me

LOL!

[dhriscerr]

^^^^ Your backs looking good bro!

[Random]

^^^^ Your backs looking good bro!

Thanks dude!

[ChiTownTommy]

lets get an update

[soulstealer]

Last dose today at 9:30am... tis my day off btw....
Current body weight 267.5lbs.... I started at 258... plus I have noticed a reduction of bodyfat....but unfortunately was unable to measure before and after. But as we can see there was a 9.5lb increase in 3 weeks not including the bodyfat I lost I would speculate somewhere around 13-15lbs total gain... from what I can see I am not retaining too much water... but as I stated earlier there will no pct this go round so I can only assume that some of my gains will be lost but I have notice no reduction in sperm production or a decreased libido..not that it in anyway implies my HPTA wasnt inhibited in anyway... just a note.... this last dose was 10mg... as it was for the past 7 days...during the next week I will reduce the intensity of my workouts and I will update in about a week with my body weight and some new pics....

[notanormalgent]

Wow Lethargic as all hell....... Is that a common side effect? jeez just been mullin around all day...... Eating and resting from couch to computer =P (Its my day of growth ie no gym) I dont know if I'm just super sad from breaking up with my G/F or what but I'm feeling really crappy and tired.... Day 7 btw... can anyone comment on similar reaction?

Oh and Caliper readings on way... have to get to the supply store next week =P

You're probably feeling lethargic because it was your first day ever working out.

[fast]

Goodluck doing your cycle without PCT mate.. You`ll need it :>

[Vinlander]

Goodluck doing your cycle without PCT mate.. You`ll need it :>

10mg/day is pretty much a theraputic dose. Unless you're seeing doctors cramming Nolvadex down peoples' throats who have swelling problems, I doubt this guy will need it.

It may be funny to see him come back in a few months with a "Help!!! Gyno!!!" topic posted, though. Let him run w/it.

[fast]

Yes.

I just have learnt that its better to think before doing. Too many people in this board and generally go to AAS without any natural base or knowledge of nutrition.

Everyman for himself.

Cheers

[soulstealer]

Current body weight 267.5 lbs last dose 80hours ago....

[timtim]

you definately did not gain 15 pounds in 3 weeks. sorry, speculate that your not holding too much water and losing bf but the truth is that you have gained a significant amount of water which is not noticeable to you. muscle doesnt grow over night and you definately didnt average .62 to .71 pounds of muscle gain a day. my guess, with all those unnecessary calories, its probably 5 or 6 pounds of water, 2 to 3 fat, and 2 to 3 muscle.

[imanewbie]

dude, everyone is trying to help you..and your snapping back with excuses and smart comments. i dont understand why you would want to do a dbol only cycle at this BF% either. why? it bloats you and makes you look even fatter ( not to sound mean). but like everyone is telling you, if you were to just lean down, and take the dbol at a lower bf% im sure you would be much more satisfied then you will be with what you are doing now...but whatever dude...its your gut

[Hellmaskbanned]

you definately did not gain 15 pounds in 3 weeks. sorry, speculate that your not holding too much water and losing bf but the truth is that you have gained a significant amount of water which is not noticeable to you. muscle doesnt grow over night and you definately didnt average .62 to .71 pounds of muscle gain a day. my guess, with all those unnecessary calories, its probably 5 or 6 pounds of water, 2 to 3 fat, and 2 to 3 muscle.

Yep.

[MartyMcFly]

Last dose today at 9:30am... tis my day off btw....
Current body weight 267.5lbs.... I started at 258... plus I have noticed a reduction of bodyfat....but unfortunately was unable to measure before and after. But as we can see there was a 9.5lb increase in 3 weeks not including the bodyfat I lost I would speculate somewhere around 13-15lbs total gain... from what I can see I am not retaining too much water... but as I stated earlier there will no pct this go round so I can only assume that some of my gains will be lost but I have notice no reduction in sperm production or a decreased libido..not that it in anyway implies my HPTA wasnt inhibited in anyway... just a note.... this last dose was 10mg... as it was for the past 7 days...during the next week I will reduce the intensity of my workouts and I will update in about a week with my body weight and some new pics....

That is a great idea. You will definitely keep all of your gains this way.

[Schmidty]

^ hahaha

[soulstealer]

Current bodyweight 267lbs and my lifts are stable havent lost any strength

[Hellmaskbanned]

I don't get why your happy about increased weight. You should be trying to lose weight.

[soulstealer]

I don't get why your happy about increased weight. You should be trying to lose weight.

Simple hellmask... Because I'm goona start cutting May 1st... and I have gained 9 solid pounds of muscle bro... and I got checked at 19.5% BF your guys were right I am up there but I figure 1 14 week cutter will get me nice a lean for my 25th Bday.... so I am very happy with the results... by lean I am only shootin for around 10ish % anyway so that would be a loss of 26lbs which would put me at 240ish but I'm expecting some muscle loss so I wanna come in around 235.... is my goal

[notorious_mem]

ur jacked in ur avator........lol

[MartyMcFly]

Simple hellmask... Because I'm goona start cutting May 1st... and I have gained 9 solid pounds of muscle bro... and I got checked at 19.5% BF your guys were right I am up there but I figure 1 14 week cutter will get me nice a lean for my 25th Bday.... so I am very happy with the results... by lean I am only shootin for around 10ish % anyway so that would be a loss of 26lbs which would put me at 240ish but I'm expecting some muscle loss so I wanna come in around 235.... is my goal

So all of a sudden you are going to have a good diet and cardio routine? Oh wait they have nothing to do with it, gear does.

[ph34rsh4ck]

but I have notice no reduction in sperm production or a decreased libido..

I dunno what you would need sperm or a libido for anyway...with the way you look

[soulstealer]

So all of a sudden you are going to have a good diet and cardio routine? Oh wait they have nothing to do with it, gear does.

Proving once again no one actually reads the thread before they post.

[MartyMcFly]

Proving once again no one actually reads the thread before they post.

I read your thread. You are not going to be 220 at 10% bf. You do not listen to advice and have poor eating habits. You would have to lose a lot more than 30 lbs. to get to 10%. I would say 50+. But good luck. If I hadn't read your thread I might have agreed with you.

[soulstealer]

I read your thread. You are not going to be 220 at 10% bf. You do not listen to advice and have poor eating habits. You would have to lose a lot more than 30 lbs. to get to 10%. I would say 50+. But good luck. If I hadn't read your thread I might have agreed with you.

Then Marty what are my eating habits? And BTW at 19.5% BF that makes my LBM 214.53lbs

[MartyMcFly]

Then Marty what are my eating habits? And BTW at 19.5% BF that makes my LBM 214.53lbs

If you look at post 17. You will see that you must not have the best diet in the world and post 89 says you lost a little bf. My question is how you got this 19.5%? Unless it was hydro static you are off. You were 25%+ in your photos on 3/14.

[soulstealer]

If you look at post 17. You will see that you must not have the best diet in the world and post 89 says you lost a little bf. My question is how you got this 19.5%? Unless it was hydro static you are off. You were 25%+ in your photos on 3/14.

I have posted my diet on this thread so you are aware of my eating habits... I NEVER once said I was dieting.... I just posted my daily macro consumption for all to read........ It was an error on your part to assume I was attempting to loose any weight at this point....post 89 was just an update... In fact I stated the purpose of this numerous times..... and far as the test I had a buddy at the gym who has had experience with calipers clip me....

[MartyMcFly]

So you are not going to diet on your 14 week cutter? Even better.