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    Here are your PICS

    FLAME ON

    Remember, I know my chest needs work, and I'm not worried about body fat as of now. So here are you "Before" Pics.
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    I dont think you are going to get flamed at all, you look pretty good and seem like you have a good base , it seems like you have put in some work and you should have great results, keep it up... on the HATERS..

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    Bulk now as much as u can, then cut up and u'll look great. Good luck

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    Hey man looking good, got any signs of gyno or anything like that going on yet? And another thing, where did you read two weeks before starting pct after cyp? I thought it was 18 days...
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    My one nip felt weird, but I wax my chest, and that can make them itch. I'm on 20mg Nolva a day so I don't foresee any issues (hopefully). Their is a lot of different PCT ideas out there. Many say 2 weeks after last shot of Cyp or Enan. because they are long esters. Anthony Roberts says to fire up you PCT right away and get your Natty Test production up and running ASAP, so I plan to rock the Myogenx right away, and fire up the clomid 1 week after my last injection, as well as upping the nolva to 40mg and trying that "relacore". If I could get my hands on some Clen I would give that a try too. I think I could get ephedrine easier, so I may do that instead. I guess from what I have read I will cut down to working out 3 times a week, and keep the weight heavy as I can with low reps. Also I will back down to 2250 Kcals a day. This is my plan, but any advice would be looked into.

    I will post pics again every few weeks, then end of cycle, then end of PCT so you guys can follow along.

    Feel free to give me and pointers if your a seasoned pro.

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    Good base! Now get rid of the rats you hiding under your arm pits.

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    Dupa i almost made a comment about that as well....

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    Oh yeah! TO can't hang on. Lets Go Buffalo!

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    Jesus

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    god damn, can't catch a fu*kin break.

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    You know whats harder then going to school for physics, busting your ass in the gym everyday, and working to pay a mortgage? Being a god damn bills fan. Holy Sh*t.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SdiZZle
    You know whats harder then going to school for physics, busting your ass in the gym everyday, and working to pay a mortgage? Being a god damn bills fan. Holy Sh*t.

    HAHA anyways. Seems like you are making good progress keep up the great work.

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    Ok, maybe I'm starting to feel something in the gym. I feel like I want to attack the weights and f*ck them up. It was a good feeling. All my wieghts up 5 or 10 lbs today, I really dialed in on chest. I pretty much spent an hour doing bench, incline and decline press, rotating from one to the other. I just kept taking 5 lbs off after I couldn't do more then 4 or 5 reps. I think on Friday (next chest/arms day) I'm going to do the same thing but with flies.

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    Hey man, just so you know, Im reading this thing and taking great interest. The one guy was wrong when he said the thread is useless without photos. Your input on the experiences and descriptions is of a lot of value to first timers and those like me who have never done it ..... and are considering it. So keep the detailed descriptions coming. Anything you think someone should know, please say it, dont feel weird about typing too much. Comments from friends and family... conversations ... how you inject, where exactly, and how things change over time - all welcome info. Thanks for making this thread.

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    Thanks man.

    I detailed my injection techniques a few posts back, I just shoot thigh's, it's real easy. If you hit a nerve your leg will twitch but just push past it. Injecting is Absolutely NO BIG DEAL. I never thought I would be able to do it, but it's a piece of cake. And as far as photo's go I did post a couple, and will post more.

    Other then that I really got into my legs today, I up'ed all weights 20 lbs, and it was easy, so I up'ed then 35 lbs (squats, press) and 20 for extensions and curls. Everytime I go to the gym I erase last workouts weight and add 10 lbs, 5 lbs, whatever, but every time I go with more weight. It feels really satisfying. I really feel motivated to push that weight, and I can break myself down and get sore like I haven't been able to in a while.

    No side effects of note so far, my balls may be slightly smaller, I'm not sure, but nothing crazy.

    I'm eating ALL DAY. It seems like I am always chewing. At times I feel like a grazing animal, just eating and eating.

    As far as friends go, only 2 know, my best man and my hook up. They would take that sh*t to their graves.

    I was at a party last weekend and alot of people were telling me I looked bigger, that was satisfying.

    I'm at 175lbs as of today, back tomorrow. I think I'm going to change chest to mondays after my day off to maximize my work out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SdiZZle
    Everytime I go to the gym I erase last workouts weight and add 10 lbs, 5 lbs, whatever, but every time I go with more weight.
    So this is a major difference for you right? Usually you go to the gym for a few weeks and barely up your weight, maybe gradually, but never like this? Just want to clarify.

    No side effects of note so far, my balls may be slightly smaller, I'm not sure, but nothing crazy.
    How is the libido? I saw you mention you plowed your wife 3x in one night (and morning). Regular updates on your libido would be of interest to me. Im curious how this affects the entire sexual arena from good to bad. Do you walk around feeling like if you were single you'd be pounding 3 girls a day or is it not so extreme right now?

    I'm eating ALL DAY. It seems like I am always chewing. At times I feel like a grazing animal, just eating and eating.
    Clarify for me - is this normal for when on a cycle? If I did that now id simply get FAT. I cant imagine grazing all day long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SdiZZle
    EXPERIENCED MEMBERS!!

    When I start my PCT what changes do I need to make to my diet and workout routines to keep maximum gains?

    I asked this question on the PCT board but received no reply.

    Thanks for your help.

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    I usually maintain the same diet/training for the three weeks after cycle, in wich add some clen to reduce catabolism, then I calm down the routines and get off some carb Kcals from the diet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Priapism
    So this is a major difference for you right? Usually you go to the gym for a few weeks and barely up your weight, maybe gradually, but never like this? Just want to clarify.
    Yeah, usually weights go up every few weeks, by small increments, and I have to bust my ass a little to get used to it. This is just easy now.


    Quote Originally Posted by Priapism
    How is the libido? I saw you mention you plowed your wife 3x in one night (and morning). Regular updates on your libido would be of interest to me. Im curious how this affects the entire sexual arena from good to bad. Do you walk around feeling like if you were single you'd be pounding 3 girls a day or is it not so extreme right now?
    I would always like to do that . But no it's not that extreme. I wake up horney more often, and I think about it more it seems. Nothing crazy, but all good. As I am on test only my libido should be nothing but increased.

    Quote Originally Posted by Priapism
    Clarify for me - is this normal for when on a cycle? If I did that now id simply get FAT. I cant imagine grazing all day long.
    I have a fast metabolism, I could never gain any weight. I wrestled 91 - 112 maybe 119lbs in high school. I need to fuel this fire. As I read somewhere on here "steroids tell you workers to work faster, but if they don't have bricks they can't build." or something to that effect. I can shed pounds relatively easily, it's hard for me to put them on
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    I am eating as much as I can to gain as much as I can, if I get a little fat in the mix I will just cut weight down to where I feel/look good. This is my first cycle so I don't claim to be an expert, but so far eating a ton seems to be working for me.

    I do eat as clean as I can as well, when I say I am grazing, I am at work eating chicken breast after chicken breast in hot sauce with onions and squash. (at least that was last night).

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    What do you do, precook the chicken and bring it in a bag and eat it coldish during the day?

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    Gotta read the forum bro-

    I work at a restaurant, so I eat fresh chicken, steak, fish, scallops, you name it every night.

    During the day I am at school, so I pack a lunch to get me from 9 to 4.

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    Sorry dude, I completely forgot you mentioned working at a restaurant. Sorry bout that.

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    No Problem.

    Today, back and shoulders

    Lat Pulldowns up 20lbs
    Bent over barbell rows up 20lbs
    cable rows up 15lbs
    shrugs up 15lbs
    behind the head press up 15lbs
    lat raises up 8 lbs
    bent over lat raises up 5lbs

    Awesome

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    Damn it, the Gym was closed at school today, and today was chest arms, so I guess I will skip it and hit legs tomorrow and chest arms on monday. I have my 3rd bottle of test c in hand now, so it is official. 12 wks, 600mg a week. I am 2 days into week 3 and I am up around 11 lbs so far.

    Also, my wife has no clue still, so thats a plus.

    I will post more pics next week I think.

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    Again great posts , Keep up the work...you have gained 11 lbs and your wife has not noticed ? that seems odd...

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    She has noticed I am bigger, but she doesn't think I'm using aas. She just thinks I am always eating/in the gym, which I am. So far so good.

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    well, I think I found a good gym to join. I need a place for when the gym at school is closed (thanksgiving, christmas, ect.) and this place is only five minutes from my house. They have all the tools I could need, a ton of free weights and a lot of nice machines. I went there today to do chest, and...

    Added 5 lbs to bench
    5 lbs to incline bench
    5 lbs to decline
    did 4 sets of 15, 12, 10, 8 (about 2 extra per set)

    10 lbs to tri extensions
    5 lbs to preacher curls

    all the weight are going up, I like that

    I feel really good, no sides really. My wife is always asking who I'm typing away too, so thats no good, but I feel like a million bux.

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    Why so many reps? Is that part of the norm for when you do a cycle? My understanding is that you should always do the max possible weight which you can only squeeze between 4 and 7 reps out of. ... if you are going for size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SdiZZle
    did 4 sets of 15, 12, 10, 8 (about 2 extra per set)
    Was supposed to read dips, sorry.

    I try to do one set of 4 with near max weight, then 3 more working sets of 6 to 10 reps with lower weight and short rest periods to recruit as many muscle fibers as I can.

    The exceptions here are dips and chins.

    Time for my shot, and a long monday again

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    Oh i see, Yeah I thought those were rep counts (15, 12, 10, 8).

    So quick question, did you try the whole "diet" method before going this route? A lot of guys have checked out my before and after photos in my thread here My Photographic Story ... and updates. and advised me to avoid the cycle idea, stating I can attain my goal simply by perfecting my diet. Im giving it a shot but its super slow, and not sure if it will work ...

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    Just wanted to say i really like the posts. im pretty new too and its always good to hear other peoples opinions and experiences. Just wanted to tell you too as i have already completed two cycles that the biggest shocker is gonna be to your friends and family that havent seen for a while cuz they notice alot more then the people you see everyday. but keep up the hard work

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    Go Sabres! Yeah I get what your saying about people who haven't seen you in a while. Like I said about 1 1/2 weeks ago I went to a part and alot of people were saying how much bigger I looked, ect.

    180lbs today!!!

    Priapism- Here is my take. All these guys talk about diet, (which IS huge) and working out to get to your max genetic potential, then looking at roids. But they also say you will lose all gains above and beyond your natural potential, so that doesn't make much sence to me. Why not get a good base, get your diet in gear, then use roids to help get to your maximum potential? That seems more logical to me. That is my plan. Also remember- everyone is different. I have no problem morally with using chemicals to enhance anything. I think it is just a benifit to living in the time we do, and I am taking advantage of what I have at my disposal.

    Trust yourself, do what you want to do. I bet a lot of these guys telling you to wait didn't diet and lift natty for 10 years to get to their max and then use juice. I saw your pictures, you know what juice will do, what do you want?

    I'm looking to gain 20 to 25 lbs, lose maybe 10, then cut myself up in time to look awesome next summer. Thats me. But remember, I do take my diet seriously, and without it I would not make any real gains that I could keep, so that is a good place to start. One cycle won't kill you, give it a shot and see what happens, thats what I say.

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    PS - did I mention 180 lbs?!?

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    Right on Dizz. You seem to know what you're talking about. I am going to give the diet thing a chance. It needs to become a habit before I consider "researching anabolics". Right now I am learning the basics about nutrition and carbs and protein. Once I have mastered it, I will practice it for awhile and max out my potential. Though I've worked out for 10 yrs "natty" ... my "natty" has been nothing more than Cytogainer and subway sandwiches with a papa johns pizza, taco bell, and KFC thrown in every so often. So what you see in my "after" photos is courtesy of papa john, mexico, and the colonel. You had amazing advice to stop looking in the mirror so often. Ill take it. Good luck and ill keep reading without sabatoging your thread so much in the future

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    Sabatoge away my man- I'm cool.

    I indof feel like crap today, I might mail it in. We will see what the deal is when lifting time comes around. I had too much homework, I was up until midnight.

    Kindof funny that used to be no big deal, but now I'm a growing boy!

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    Went dip crazy today, man am I sore! I just kept going back and doing more dips. I hit tri's and chest all day, said f-it to biceps. Man, those low dips really blast your tri's too, it was great. I am definitely taking a day off tomorrow, just resting up. I find my weight jumps a couple pounds after my days off. "you don't grow in the gym." I need to pencil in a little more grow time I think, maybe cut back to 5 days a week training (maybe I can figure out a good split where I hit everything 2 times a week with weds and sunday off) Weights are still going up across the board, and that is an awesome feeling.

    Sides - I have Keratosis Pilaris (genetic-very easy to get ingrown hairs) so I have red bumps on my upper arms. I now have them on my ass and upper thighs, which I used to when I was 16-20. No big deal, just need to exfoliate better in the shower. If I don't get 8+ hours sleep I feel drained around 4pm.

    Other then that I feel normal, or extra-normal.

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    Feeling good after my day off, I needed that. Time to hit up my legs. It seems like my chest is coming along, it's all I think about. I'm trying to focus my mental energy on growing pecs. Today is legs day.

    I'm already thinking about my next cycle, probably mid march 08- I have access to Dbol , Winny, Test, Deca and maybe tren . I would like my next cycle to be a borderline cutter/lean bulker. So that is already bouncing around in my head.

    Still no real sides aside from ass pimples.

    Later dudes- off to the gym.

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    feeling like a beast in the gym. Today I went crazy with chins- basically supersetted every workout with one set of chins. I love arnold presses, they are the sh*t. I'm still hovering around 180, I need to eat more. This hasn't been my most focused week, but I am staying on track. I should go buy 20 chicken breasts and step up my calories a little bit.

    Ass pimples clearing up due to exfoliation (super hard loofa scrub).

    Bulk Bulk Bulk- I can't wait to cut up, that will be fun.

    Also, watched Pumping Iron lat night, now there's some motivation.

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    Monday shot done, slamming breakfast before my long day. I am still stalled near 180 - 179 lbs. I need to up my caloric intake. I'm shooting for closer to 4000 kcal a day now. No noticeable sides as of yet. I think I will take more pics thursday.

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    Time for an update....

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    SD! Great Thread man, I read it all,and Subbed. Your experience has helped answer questions I have and considering going to the dark side soon..

    Appreciate your dedication in frequent reports on progress!!!

    Rock ON!

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    Also been following yer log, great info and ready for an update...

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