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12-11-2007, 03:50 PM #121
Sure, there is a little bloat, but nothing to write home about. I drink about 5 or 6 liters a day so that helps. More water in, more water out. I can notice it in my face, a little rounder then it used to be. I think I have about 2 shots left (just did one today) so thats like a week and 3 days left. I'm having a hard time calculating when I should be done, but that seems right. Anyway, then I fire up the PCT hard, so hopefully the Nolva will take care of the bloat and back to normal. Back day today, I am back to moving the weight up in a big way. I love back day. Pics coming soon, my friend is gonna take them for me so I will try to get some quality pics up here.
S
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12-11-2007, 03:51 PM #122
Also something must be working, because lately at the gym dudes will walk up to me and ask "what to you do for..." traps, biceps, ect. Thats a good feeling.
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12-11-2007, 05:29 PM #123
where the pics bro
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12-11-2007, 08:04 PM #124
Dizzle whats your weight up to now? and lets see some damn pics.....
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12-12-2007, 12:17 PM #125
Pics are coming soon. Within a week, I promise. I'm tipping the scales at 193.5 today. I'm taking a long look at that slingshot training technique, it seems very interesting.
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12-12-2007, 06:09 PM #126
193 @ 5'6" you must look like a beast, cant wait to see your pics...
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12-12-2007, 06:54 PM #127
Ya dude WTF!!!!!!!!!
I've been waiting and waiting and waiting =P LOL... post some damn pics
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12-15-2007, 12:17 PM #128
last shot yesterday, it's so I'm done. Final weigh in at 194 lbs. Getting ready to fire up my PCT and start the Slingshot Training System. I am going right into the anabolic cruise phase for two weeks. PICs very soon, like tomorrow- I have to head to work, Later guys
S
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12-16-2007, 07:20 PM #129
Wheres The Pics ????
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12-16-2007, 07:49 PM #130
I bet you have some GOOD strectch marks after gaining all that weight I know I did when I bulked up from 175 to 200
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12-17-2007, 02:35 PM #131New Member
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how much additional bf do you think you gained? will you have before and after pics?
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12-17-2007, 03:37 PM #132
Here are your pictures
All no pump on my day off.
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12-17-2007, 03:38 PM #133
One more
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12-17-2007, 03:41 PM #134
Man, I have to figure out better lighting. Anyway, you get the idea. I will keep the posts coming through PCT so we can all see what I keep. Thanks dudes, later.
S
and maurice, look at the thread, my before pics are up here.
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12-17-2007, 05:59 PM #135
Dizzle nice you finally posted some pics, you definately look bigger, what do you think ? i to wish you had some better lighting and pics to compare...
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12-17-2007, 09:44 PM #136
Here are some before ones I wasn't ready to show earlier -first two are today, second 2 are before pics from 3 months ago, and the last is from my honeymoon. That should give you a better idea.
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12-18-2007, 05:23 PM #137
those are alot better pics to compare, you look alot bigger, good work....So what do you think of your results and what about strength gains ?
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12-19-2007, 09:50 PM #138
strength gains were incredible. I will grab my log from the car and get you guys some figures tomorrow. All you guys pushing me for pics and no one has anything to say but smalls? Com'on - flame away, or don't whatever, let me know whats up
S
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12-19-2007, 11:25 PM #139
Sdizzle - great thread! Very impressive gains. I am going to try my first cycle soon, also have the fear of needles. Sounds like it wasn't that bad for you. You jabbed in the thigh? No pain? I am going to have to do this in the bathroom without my wife's knowledge so I am a little apprehensive - (She thinks I will turn into Jay Cutler overnight, be a poster child for roid rage and gross out the kids with muscles on my nose.) Back to the jab... I assume you are seated - and the muscle is not flexed? How far up from the knee?
Thanks
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12-19-2007, 11:28 PM #140
ok, so I have my log and here is an idea of my strength gains. I will use 10 rep sets and 4 reps sets as examples.
BENCH
Before- 135 x 10 ; 160 x 4
After- 205 x 10 ; 245 x 4 (no sh*t)
SQUATS
Before- 235 x 10 ; 265 x 4
After- 315 x 10 ; 405 x 4
LAT PULLDOWNS
Before- 95 x 10 ; 120 x 4
After- 155 x 10 ; 175 x 5
BENT BARBELL ROWS
Before- 115 x 10 ; 145 x 4
After- 155 x 10 ; 185 x 5
That should give you and idea. Everything went up- curls, calves, you name it. I talk with a lot of people and I realize that I, like many, did not understand PROGRESSIVE resistance training. I would just go to the gym, throw on the same weight as before and do the same reps. After I really got motivated and did some research I realized I need to move more weight for my body to grow, then adapt, then move more weight again. So my strength gains were pretty impressive, to me at least.
So...
Now I am on to the Slingshot Training System, as it seems to make a lot of sence to me. I am on day 3 of the anabolic cruise phase ( 3 working sets, 2 exercises per muscle group, 10 reps, 4 reps (heavy), 12 reps first "primary" exercise and 12 reps, 10 reps, 6 reps (heavy) for secondary exercise. I plan to do this for 2 weeks total, then on to the anabolic prime, or a controlled catabolic state for 2 weeks ( cardio, and 1 workout per group 15+reps light to get a lactic acid burn). then the anabolic blast. Hopefully I can keep most of this strength and make even more gains after my month of cruise and prime.
I will keep this updated with my PCT results and let you know how I feel/ what gains I keep.
S
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12-19-2007, 11:37 PM #141
mperc - if you are in the US go to walmart and get 10 23g 1 inch pins, then to the next store (target?) and buy 10 25g 1 inch pins. You can use the 23g to draw, and 25g to shoot. People think the rubber seal dulls the needle- so you will fill then swap out the for the 25g. I shoot about halfway between my groin and knee, a few inches closer to groin then knee. When you sitting think of the top of your thigh as 12 noon and the bottom (hamstring) as 6 o clock. I would shoot about 1 oclock. I would heat my oil in hot water for a minute, and ice the injection site for a long 30 count- look away and push slow. Next thing you now its in- no real pain, seriously. After a while I stopped icing (it really doesn't hurt) and switching pins (they don't feel dull). As for you shooting in the bathroom without your wife knowing, welcome to my world for the last 3 months. I am a pretty positive, confident, and upbeat person. I never noticed any roid rage what-so-ever. I felt more confident and positive. If that is roid RAGE then it is awesome. Keep your leg unflexed- but to beat a dead horse - it really is no big deal, you can do it, and once you do it once you will laugh at yourself. Let me know how things go for you dude- and EAT EAT EAT EAT EAT ( can't say that enough )
S
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12-19-2007, 11:39 PM #142
NOTE
1 oclock for right thigh, 11 for left, Basically near the top a little to the outside.
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12-20-2007, 03:47 PM #143New Member
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Nice thread Sdizzle...mperk check your state laws b4 going to walmart...not that easy in every state as it is in NY(used to live there). All states r diff and cant always just walk in and buy them...keep up the hard work Dizz with those weights u r throwing around u will maintain weight gain 4 sure 8 plate squat is something to be proud of
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12-20-2007, 05:00 PM #144
Hey cool man finally got some pics up.... I can see a noticeable increase in LBM... Keep up the good work..
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12-20-2007, 08:00 PM #145New Member
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hey bro thanks for the diary i am thinking about starting my first cycle of Test. and after reading this i think i will if you have any sugestions i am all ears.........
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12-20-2007, 08:02 PM #146New Member
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hey bro thanks for the diary i am thinking about taking a cycle of Test. and after reading this i think i will if you have any sugeestions i am all ears......
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12-20-2007, 08:44 PM #147
S-Dude;
Thanks for the info about locs for the jabs - I was trying to imagine how to stick myself in the glute in the bathroom mirror (is that possible?) the thigh sounds do-able. I'm going to try an oral cycle first with Clen , cytomel and winstrol - trying to get the BF down. I just tested yesterday in a BODPOD (2% accuracy) at 21% - still got a belly. (and that's after cutting out booze and 75% of my carbs for the last 9 months!)
I was interested to hear about your impressive strength gains - those sound too good to be true in such a short period - hope it continues!
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12-20-2007, 10:46 PM #148
I realize my gains are impressive. They seem unreal, but no BS they are right from my log. My starting numbers are low, so I think that makes otherwise normal weights seem more impressive...
I would call it the law of deminishing returns- I started with low weights pretty much all around, and worked up to decent working weights. This had to do with aas and diet sure, but also with new training techniques. I would say if I had lifted heavier natural (true progressive training) that I would not have gained as much poundage on most moves. - get what I mean? I started from 0, so getting to 60 is impressive, but not super hard. Going from 60 to 100 takes a ton of work and is truely impressive. Going from 100 to 130 is even harder still, and 130 to 150 is something rarely done. If you get my car metaphor you should get what I mean.
Using the Slingshot Training System I am still using my 4 rep max weights for every move, and for week one off they are the same as last week of cycle. I will do my best to keep the weight the same (or more) next week, then head into the anabolic prime. I plan to run a full STS cycle during my PCT and maybe fire up another cycle in early march. Thinking Test, DBol , Winny... something like that. I want to be a monster next summer- mow my lawn without a shirt and freak out the neighbors. Sweet.
S
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12-20-2007, 10:54 PM #149
mperc- watch out! orals are suppresive- ie- they will shut down your natural test production- ie- no boners for you (my dumb ass friend wrecked his shit for months). If you take winny to cut fine, but you should add in a small amount of test to keep your libedo. To add test you have to shoot- so get over it. Pills are bad for your liver too. I would say - I am no doctor - 200 to250mg test a week would
1-get you better gains
2- not be so much to get you super bloated
3- keep you blood test levels up while on winny
My idea of a junior cut cycle-
wks 1-10 250mg test
wks 1-8 run you winny
cycle your clen (perfect beasts clen info is awesome)
I'm sure you know this, but 45 min of med. intensity cardio first thing in the morning on an empty stomach will help you shed the pounds. I like to brisk walk on a treadmill, maybe 4 mph, slight incline. I feel this is enough to burn fat (good) but not intense enough to burn muscle (bad).
Good Luck
S
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Good work sizz I really thought you would be leaner. So I personaly was disappointed. but the mass you put on was great, and your streanth increase was great. Please keep us posted to see if you kepy your strenth gains. I my anavar cycle I only lost about 5% in streanth> Don't be pissed about the leaner comment take it and us it to better next time .
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12-21-2007, 10:19 PM #151
Oh, no problem Dupa, I've got some body fat to shed, no big deal. That is a project for spring though. Hopefully I can work through my PCT and get back to bulking and throw a couple more pounds on this winter. Hit this summer at a cut 185, sounds like a plan.
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12-25-2007, 11:17 PM #152
Ok, so here is a PCT update for everyone-
I am running 40mg nolva / day and 100mg clomid. I was hoping this would be sufficient for a test only cycle but... My nips feel puffy and very sensitive. At first I thought it was all in my head, but no, it is there. I have ordered some letro from lion (Clen too while I was at it, just to have for cutting).
Also, I weighed in today at 190lbs. Believe it or not my calorie intake has fallen off during the holiday season. Schools over so I have been sleeping in, which cuts down on eating time, and I have only been eating a few times a day. These huge family meals fill me up so much it's hard to eat every two hours. I hope to get my diet back on track starting tomorrow, but I am starting a four hour winter class followed by work, so that could hamper my time to eat. I gotta figure this out and keep my calories up.
Strength roughly the same, no problems there.
Also- I feel less bloated and puffy. My face looks slimmer and my double chin is gone. Goodbye excess water. Thats a plus, and seeing as that is a good part of those 4 lbs good riddance.
S
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Thanks for the update
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12-26-2007, 04:37 PM #154
S-dude
If you need quick nutrition - Check out the whey protein powder at Costco - It's cheap (relatively speaking) and tastes good. I have comsumed mass quantities over the past year and concluded that it is better than alot of the brands at GNC, etc. (For one thing - it doesn't cause flatulence - important to note if you're happily married and want to stay that way...)
Good luck with the PCT!
M
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12-27-2007, 12:40 PM #155
Well heres some crappy news. I have food poisoning. I haven't been able to eat for the past 2 1/2 days. I feel super drained, I can barely walk right now. Everytime I eat something I puke it right back up. I feel like I've lost 5 lbs. I don't have a scale at home and haven't been to the gym in the past few days.
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12-28-2007, 04:33 PM #156
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12-29-2007, 01:54 AM #157
Well, good news, I ate like a beast today and plan to do so all weekend to make up for lost time. Also I have my letro on hand so thats sweet. Go lion.
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im going to do the same begginers cycle as you next month but im in the dark about how long and what dosage i should use the pct and how many, i know about clomid and nolva should i use both of these after my cycle has ended or during???? and what is a front loader mate is that the first injection to get me started at a full 750mg?? and then followed by the 500mg each week at every 3 and half days? cheers
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12-30-2007, 10:28 AM #159
Dizzle sorry to hear about the food poisoning, that sucks...Hows PCT going ? did you have any test flu symptoms ? because right now im 4 weeks in and feel like shit..
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12-30-2007, 02:51 PM #160
So far so good with my PCT. I feel fine for the most part. I miss being in a great mood and the confidence a little, but physically and mentaly I feel fine. The Gyno thing freaked me out a little, but I checked out C-Binos gyno thread and got my hands on some letro so I shold be safe. I figure with a fast responce time my chances of clearing this up are pretty good. I have to really hit the gym hard this week. I'm not going to lie, I have been slacking a little the past week with the holidays and all. But, only 2 more days of holiday drinking and lazyness/crazyness at work. Then I get back on track and into my normal routine.
S
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