low dose test 10 weeks

[dannyh11]

Hey..i am going to keep this log for my benefit and for the benefit of others interested in low dose test only cycles. So if u have an opinion on whether u deem me ready for aas or not, please keep it to yourself.

i will be taking 250mg per week of test enth for 10 weeks. pct nolva and liquidex (also if required during cycle)

29 years
183cm
77kg
been lifting on and off for 5 years
diet consists of roughly 250g protein per day and 3500 calories

my goals are lean bulk (especially in my genetically difficult pecs) with minimal sides
why the low dose? fear of sides and my use being obvious

1st injection July 1
After much soul searching I decided to take the plunge 1 ml right quad. 23g 1inch pin. In it went, some pain upon entry but then pretty good. Started shaking real bad, sweating and dizzy...thought i was going to pass out so pulled pin without injecting and had to lie down for like 20min. Manned up, changed pins and stuck it back down the same hole and injected slowly...all good. Was expecting the kicked in the leg by a mule pain but really didnt come, the next day there was a little pain, like a really slight cork and even today there is hardly any tightness or pain.

I will be updating this log every now and then including before and after pics, my avatar is close to what i look like now.

[Ernst]

I'm curious. I'll be keeping an eye on this. Could you please include more detailed diet info if possible? Good luck.

[dannyh11]

i cant be arsed going into matrixs ormuch detail but i will post a typical days nutritional intake

breakfast: scramble eggs with 2 slices wholewheat toast (3 whole 3 whites)

snack: dried fruit and nuts (unsalted)

lunch: chicken and avo sandwich, whole breast, on wholewheat.

pre workout: redback protein shake, musashi protein bar

post: musashi protein drink strawberry (yummy)

dinner: steak, broccoli, boiled potatoes, green salad

snack: cottage cheese (yuck)

bed

[Ernst]

Thanks Danny. I might suggest adding a bit more food to help with your accelerated growth. Keep those gains posted! Good luck.

[FireGuy]

You are not even close to the 3500 calories you stated you are taking in. Without knowing the exact food weights I would say you are more likely around 2000-2200 calories.

[Ernst]

Your already eating better than most people, and kudos for that. Danny, here is just a sample diet here that might work well for you...

Meal 1:
1 can tuna
1 cup oats

Meal 2:
1 8 oz.chicken breast
1/2 lb. sweet potato

*pre-workout shake


*post-workout shake
(mostly whey protein + casein protein + banana)


Meal 3:
300g turkey breast
veggies
3 slices whole grain bread

Meal 4:
8oz. steak
1/2 lb. sweet potato

Meal 5:
1 can tuna
1 cup lentils
casein protein

... and skim milk throughout!

This is merely an outline *similar* to my own diet. This gets you about 330+ grams of protein, 300+ grams carbs, 45+ grams fat, and 2,800+ calories, with a pretty decent macro spread. The milk is not included in that, it's just bonus nutrition. I also take certain supplements, such as flax oil. Of course this is the kind of diet that works for me, you don't have to adhere to it at all; and milk doesn't agree with everyone. Eggs are probably better in the morning anyway, I just don't like them. Nothing wrong with a little cottage cheese, too. I just wanted to give you a few ideas to draw from for your own meal planning. I'd like to see you get the most out of this.

[T_Own]

interesting so far. was the first shot just nerves doing that to you? i can imagine there are a lot of things going through your mind during the first time

[awms]

Hmm I would realy like to see your results! ther are alot of guys who ask about 250mg of test a week but I have yet to see any one who had done the much alone. Keep us all posted!

[CeeLo]

Yeah, I'm watching. Seems like the norm is 500mg /wk.

[dannyh11]

cheers ernst..i agree i need to eat more food and steadily that is the plan. a couple of tins of tuna a day and a few more starchy carbs should get me into a good zone. i like the flax seed oil idea too. i'll grab some. i am expecting descent results. i have always been able to increase muscle mass with a strict lifting regime and a less than perfect diet, but something always comes up to make me lose focus.ie relationship breakup, work transfer, broken wrist, flu....not this time...i would really hope to get to the high 80s with similar or lower body fat to now, how realistic that is, well we will just wait and see. obviously i have felt nothing yet.

In regard to the almost fainting i think it was just a response to feeling and watching a friggin big needle poke into my leg ..and i pushed it in real slow which probably prolonged it...i honestly think i was a split second from passing out when i lay down.

[awms]

I think it might be a god idea to front load 500mg the first week bro....keeps more of a steady level of test and you will prob gain an extra couple pounds.

[dannyh11]

awms...i actually did squirt another 250mg on friday, so 500mg in the first week split over a tuesday and friday injection. injections once weekly from now on. injection 3 tomorrow, sort of looking fwd to it....its a bit of a rush as long as i dont pass out. have still felt nothing in regard to strength, or size or sides. im an impatient f#$cker i know. added a tin of tuna a day and potatoes , pasta or rice with lunch.

[Ernst]

Glad to see you've added some food. Keep us posted!

[dannyh11]

3rd shot done and dusted, easiest by far. no pain, no dizziness. got good pump at gym last nite and even minor muscles seemed to be getting pumped ie. biceps. from little use. no strength gains yet.

[awms]

nice bro. Keep us posted! and give us some info on how much weight you have gained, and your strength.

[dannyh11]

pretty good pumps in the gym....could be placebo though i think. i'm 10 days in and have put on 2.4 kg up to exactly 80kg. no water, i'm guessing its just the extra food ive been scoffing. skin a little oilier than usual and am a little more consumed with trying to get my end in than usual, as a single man the little black book has been copping a flogging to get some tail around. no strength gains yet, have changed gyms due to a transfer and to tell u the truth im lifting less than a couple of weeks ago. i did diet for 3 weeks before i started which seems to have affected my strength. next inject tuesday which will be two weeks.

[dannyh11]

first pic at start, 2nd pic 11 days in. not much change i dont think. crap pics i know....im just putting them up to look back at once im done. there is no tan difference just difference between warm and fluro lighting.

[dannyh11]

i know i know....could have gained more natural blah blah....bit late for that.

[dannyh11]

no comments? i know my chest is lagging badly and my lower abs need work. but besides that i think my proportions are ok....just need to wack on some size and then trim some fat. what do u think my bf% would be?

[dannyh11]

4th shot, almost as bad as the first...shook bad and sweated bad.....got dizzy but looked away and composed myself. good pump at gym today.

[CeeLo]

Not gettng use to the shots yet, hunh. Are you switching quads? Have you thought about shooting the glutes?

[Obro]

Fire it in there like a dart. Swift and all the way. It's only 1" so no worries there. I use 1.5" and leave about a 1/4' outside. No good reason I just feel better doing that. I pull it out just as quick.

I understand the sweats and shakes. Sometimes it was hard to get the needle in the small hole in the amp. Todays shot was my 10th and these days its as easy as brushing my teeth. I shoot the outer quad (like 3pm on the thigh if you're looking down). Easy to clean easy to jab easy to draw to check for blood and easy to inject. My 1st few were in the glutes. Now that's a real pain in the ass for all the oposite reasons.

Good luck bro. I'm on 500 ew so it should be interesting to see any difference. My logs up here too.

Obro.

[dannyh11]

i shoot the outer quad too. my 2nd and 3rd shots were easy...so dont know what was doing for the 4th one. oh well the oil is in thats the main thing. i seem to get slight pumps from holding my phone to my ear or brushing my teeth...it could be pyschosematic or maybe i could just have really shit muscular endurance in my delts??? im am horny as and my skin is oily as. weight to 80.6kg im 15 days in. strength up a little...not much.

[dannyh11]

bump for bf opinions

[dannyh11]

3 weeks in...5th inject today....easy as pie right quad. i have noticed increased hardness and vascularity. skin still oiley but no more than a week ago, strength has increased a little. im just about to head to the gym so will update my weight and strength later, hitting chest and tris today. to be honest the diet has suffered this week...personal problems caused loss of appetite. id appreciate some comments.

[dannyh11]

Day 20 - chest day....crowded gym so couldnt do my exercises in the usual order ie. compound followed by isolation. so started on chest machine..strength kicking in 3 plates a side from struggling with 2 last week. Dips, last week punched out 3 sets of 10 unweighted, today 3 sets of 10 with 20kg hanging between legs, still then did 3 sets of 8 flat bench bb press at 100kg, then cable flys. pretty good pump. weight though has dropped to 79.6kg??? less food consumed this week and feel trimmer so maybe that explains it. pump declined by photo.

[dannyh11]

weight 81.0 today

[Ernst]

Keep up the hard work! Make sure to keep a good diet and don't overtrain. Still watchin' your progress. Good luck.

[dannyh11]

6th shot and chest day....bench up 10kg, other lifts the same....slight increase in bacne, only little spots! skin no increase in oilyness, weight 82kg, sex drive not that high.

[dannyh11]

7th shot yesterday. bench up another 5kg. two massive zits on back...and i mean massive. had big drinking weekend for best mates bachelor party...needless to say diet suffered. not bad stuff just not nearly enough food. weight down to 81.6kg.

[dannyh11]

have worked out my gear is testoviron....which seems to be a mix of enth and prop....sp shit...should have been injecting much more often.....its a bit late to change too much, but will shoot twice weekly nows and see if anything changes

[ProportionOverMass]

After a lot of consideration, I´ve decided to start a cycle just like yours. My choice is also testoviron with a dose of 250 mg/week (same reasons as yours). What about the side effects (other than acne)? Have you required nolva so far?

Good luck, Danny.

PS: Try sunbathing daily to fight acne. It works fine for me.

[Linuxian]

I know the injections are troubling but I hope you are pulling back on the plunger a bit to make sure you're not in a vein.

[kynetguy]

suscribed.

[3dbigrigs]

read this

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...07/ai_n8766645

scientific test 100mg of test e for 10 weeks... you can get results even with a low dose and no additional diet or exercise. yes this is with hypogonadal men ( low natural test levels) but still


Muscle size increased significantly with testosterone for 10 weeks. The triceps muscle area increased by 12% from baseline and the quadriceps musculature increased by So/, while the amount of subcutaneous fat in arm and thigh did not change. Muscle strength increased significantly with testosterone over the 10 weeks of treatment, as evidenced by a 22% increase in the bench press and a 31% increase in the squat strength measurements. Whole-body leucine flux, oxidation, and nonoxidative disappearance rates did not change with treatment. Testosterone treatment was clinically well tolerated in these hypogonadal men.

[dannyh11]

weight 83.4kg. benched 3 sets of 6 at 115kg today, strength up on every exercise except pull ups. cant get any more than 12 (could do 16 about 2years ago when i used to train for them) although i can do more in the second and third sets. so 6 weeks in, up about 6 kg or 13.2 lbs. bacne seems to have subsided substantially, maybe since the more frequent (2 x weekly) injections. no other sides.

[BUYLONGTERM]

I changed my entire body composition with a low dose cycle!

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=58158

Best of luck!!!

BLT

[kynetguy]

I changed my entire body composition with a low dose cycle!

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=58158

Best of luck!!!

BLT

Amazing transformation BLT!!!!

[dannyh11]

pics....no pump....mid week 6. crap i know.

[manwitplans]

Don't know why you say your chest laggs so much, seems to be quite symetrical to me, even seems to me that chest is one of your best musclegroups.

Keep on