1st cycle test e/dbol

[punchlove88]

after months of debating, i've decided to run my first cycle of test e and Dbol.
im 6'1 1/2 ish ... 6'2 208 lbs, been working out for 3 years now, started at 179lbs when i was 18, sitting at 208 +- like i said now.

Weeks 1-10
Test e @ 500 mg a week.
Weeks 1-4
Dbol @ 50mg a day.

Now for the dbol, i have 50 mg tabs, im trying to get ahold of 10/5 mg tabs instead because i think 50mg might be a little over board? Let me know what you guys think, id appreciate it, this is my first cycle.

As for PCT i have clomid on hand
Week 12, id start it at 100mg a day for 2 weeks, then 50mg a day for 2 weeks.


Let me know what you guys think, if theres anything i should change, add to it.

Ill keep you posted as im excited to start my first cycle, aswell as ill grab before/afetr pics, let you know how it goes.

[wukillabee]

Seems ok except for a few things u need to add. U need an a.i. for ur pct along with ur clomid. Aromasin is good as well as provirion, get one or the other to add to ur clomid, a serm alone or an ai alone is not enough for an aas pct. Get a pill cutter, makes it real easy to slice and dice tabs. Take only half ur dbol tab, 50mg is way too much for first run with dbol bro. You'll only get more sides then gains running dbol that high this early. Id say run ur dbol at half a tab for weeks 1-4. DO u have enough test for 10weeks? What i mean by that is i hope u have at least 3 10ml vials or 20 amps cus u only get about 8-9 at best ml out of a 10ml vial cus u lose some juice each shot in the syringe. You'll know what im talking bout when u start shooting. I made the mistake of only getting 2 vials for a 10 week cycle and learned the hard way and with my luck all my sources dried up so early pct for me. Also get some l-dex (arimidex, get liquid chem stuff since its way cheaper and easier to dose) for any on cycle problems such as sensitive/itchy nips, too much bloat, etc. Thats about it off the top of my head. MAybe next time get nolva as ur serm for pct since its much stronger than clomid mg vs. mg. Good luck and post those pics! Ill follow ur log bro, ur gonna love it! I did!

[punchlove88]

okay, now one thing about the dbol, i was reading that its good to pace out during the day your pill intake....? if im taking 1/2 a 50mg, what would be the best time to take it..... i Do also plan on starting Monday Oct 13th.
So before then it looks like i might be getting 10 mg tabs, if i do ill let you know.

As for the provirion, how crutial is it that i get this? i just called my buddy for it so ill see how it goes.

The clomid doses, are they okay?

and yes, i have 20 amps,... 21 to be exact... so il be set for the 10 weeks

[punchlove88]

Now since 25/50mg were my only real options, i was thinking since i grabbed a pill slicer fr my 50mg tabs.

Ifi cut them to 25 mg, then cut those to 12.5 which might be tricky.... and then run 36.5 mg a day? would that be better than 25mg, and show more results less sides then doign 50 mg?

[Back In Black]

How old are you dude?

20?

[punchlove88]

21
i see where yo got 20 from, my bad ill edit

Also, can someone answer my quesion on cutting the dbols?
i had a few extra 50mg tabs, cut them in half down the scored line thats on it, to 25mg.... then i took the 25mg pill.... and was able to slice that in 1/2 to 2, 12.5 mg tabs...... so if i take 3 tabs like that its 37.5mg
Would i be best off doing that, take 1 pill in the morning, 1 by noon, and 1 at night, or just stick to 25 mg? and take 1 tab daily, and if taken daily, whats the best time? pre/post workout? with my meal?

thanks

[wukillabee]

Who the fu*k sells 50mg dbols anyways? U sure they arent anadrol-50 tabs u got? If its dbol then cut in half, now cut that in half, take a quarter with breakfast and the other quarter with dinner, simple bro. Even better is to get 10mg dbols! Yes, an ai such as provirion or arimidex or aromasin is crucial for ur pct if u want to keep ur gains and not have lasting sides such as gyno. U also need arimidex on cycle anyways in case u gyno sides on cycle. Check out some chem sites, super cheap and easier to dose then tabs. Cant do all ur homework for u bro. Read up some stickies and search. DOnt rush things or ur gonna be sorry bro, trust me.

[Deltasaurus]

also id say run test e for 14 weeks, not from exp but from all that everyone has said around here

[wukillabee]

also id say run test e for 14 weeks, not from exp but from all that everyone has said around here

Na, first cycle id say 12 weeks is soooo perfect! barely got 9 out of mine and still had gains coming so if i stopped at 10 weeks id be pissed. Anything over 12 weeks especially for a first timer i say is too long and will shut u down harder. Now for my second cycle im planning on doing 14 weeks. Just cus i like to do just a couple cycles a year so might as well do a few long ones then 3 or 4 short ester 8 week cycles. Plus long esters are more price savvy and affordable right now for me. Dont have endless amounts of cash to spend how i please anymore. Economy goin to shit, cost of living raising while wages lowering, gas through the roof, got more important things to spend money on then gear unfortunately. SO for me right now long esters do the trick. Even though i love pinning and wouldnt mind doin short ester cycles, just not now.

[Back In Black]

Dude, I think you're a little young still and should wait a couple of years but I guess you're not going to.

Also, what's your bodyfat?

As it's your first cycle I would drop the dbol and stick to test e for 12 weeks.

The main reason a testosterone only cycle is recommended for the first time users is because it is the building block of all future cycles - if it isn't - it should be! By using testosterone initially you will get an idea of how your body will react to it. You will need to know if you are prone to gyno, how much fluid you will retain and how much your blood pressure will raise with the use of anabolic steroids as part of your training and nutrition program. These are very important things to be aware of.

Think about it like this - you're doing a stack of testosterone enanthate and dianabol - you feel the signs and symptoms of gyno coming along. So you fix the problem by taking by taking 20-30 mg of Nolvadex or an AI daily until the problem subsides and a few days after just to be safe. So the next time you cycle - you use only testosterone enanthate to avoid the aromotization problems brought upon by the addition of the dianabol tabs the first time out. But guess what? It wasn't the test that was aromatizing after all - it was the dianabol. Now with testosterone only, you are still getting the signs and symptoms of gyno and must once again control the substance with use of an anti estrogen. Had you known you were gyno prone with the testosterone you could have better planned this second cycle and worked out a stack to your advantage and possibly even eliminated or greatly reduced the risks of re-ocurring gyno. If you start cycling with a stack, you won't have any way of knowing which steroids are causing which side effects.


I would also grab some nolva for your PCT. Easy enough to get from LION unless you're outside the States.

[Albrus05]

What`s the name of ur Dbol?

[punchlove88]

dont think im allowed to say? the type.
but they got them on there site, and i entered the batch number and there valid.