Thread: Palmer's Cut
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02-04-2009, 02:23 AM #1New Member
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Palmer's Cut
Stats: 224.0lbs @ 26%bf 6'0 (166lbs lbm 58lbs bf)
End Goal: 205.0lbs @ 15%bf 6'0 (175lbs lbm 30lbs bf)
Short Term Goal: 220.0lbs @ 24.5%bf by the end of feburary
In short: I need to gain 9lbs of muscle while dropping 30lbs of fat
Supplements: Whey, Glutamine, Vitamin C, Fish liver oil, green tea extract,
caffiene, ZMA- im gear free as of right now I want to hit around 18% bf or less before I go on anything
Workout Routine: I'm looking to do 4 weight sessions and 2 cardio sessions a
week broken up Weights/Weights/Cardio/Weights/Weights/Cardio/Dayoff.
Day 1:
Awoke at around 2:30pm after a late night gym session of back and bi's last
night, currently I have no DOMS but i did take it pretty easy since I had an
extended layoff from the gym due to illness.
Meal 1 (2:40pm): Had a bottle of water and a bowl of quaker oatmeal
Meal 2 (4:00pm): Protein smoothie w/ Ice, Frozen fruits (strawberries,
blueberries, raspberries), 0%fat non-flavoured yogurt, skim milk, 2 scoops whey protein
Supplements 1 (4:45): Fish liver oil, vitamin C, green tea extract, glutamine
gym session (5:15)
Chest/Tris
Chest is my weakest part of my body, many years ago I injured my shoulder and have opted not to get surgery on it.
Decline barbell press 3sets 10reps--- Low weight I could have gone heavier and
kept form but I didn't want to push my shoulder to hard in the first exercise
Flat bench machine 3 sets 12 reps--- Used the right amount of weight here and
was hitting failure at 12 reps
incline dumbell press 3 sets 8 reps--- Was only hitting 8 reps per set with
fairly light weight, my shoulder was tiring before my chest, next week I need to
take a break from back to back to back presses to allow for shoulder recovery
incline flies 3 sets 12 reps---
flat bench flies 2 sets 8 reps
double overhead tricep extensions 3 sets 12 reps
single hand tricep pulldowns 3sets 12 reps
workout ended (6:15) - Felt a great pump in my chest; my tri workout was a little weak so I'm looking to hit them again later in the week
Meal3 (PWO 6:40): Protein smoothie w/ Ice, Frozen fruits (strawberries,
blueberries, raspberries), 0%fat non-flavoured yogurt, skim milk, 4 scoops whey protein, dextrose, maltodextrin
Meal4 (8:30): Glutamine & Sirlion roast with all fat cut out and corn
Meal5 (2:30): Salad with olive oil dressing and a protein shake with ZMA
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02-05-2009, 01:33 AM #2New Member
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Day 2
Weight today: 220.8 @ 26% bf
Have DOMS in my Bi's chest and shoulders, my back and tris however feel fine.
Day 2:
Awoke at around 1:30pm after having to work until 3 in the morning last night
Meal 1 (1:50pm): a bowl of quaker oatmeal and 2 scoops of whey mixed with water
Supplements 1 (4:10): Fish liver oil, vitamin C, green tea extract, glutamine
Meal 3 (4:50pm): Multivitamin, Salad w/ extra virgin olive oil
Gym Session (5:15):
40 minutes of cardio with a heart rate of 130
During the session I sipped on a protein shake made of 30g protein 5g glutamine
Workout ended (6:00)
Meal3 (PWO 6:15): Protein smoothie w/ Ice, Frozen fruits (strawberries,
blueberries, raspberries), 0%fat non-flavoured yogurt, skim milk, 4 scoops whey
protein, dextrose, maltodextrin
Meal4 (9:10): Salad w/ extra virgin olive oil and lean chicken breast
Meal5 (11:00): Protein smoothie w/ Ice, Frozen fruits (strawberries,
blueberries, raspberries), 0%fat non-flavoured yogurt, skim milk, 4 scoops whey
protein
went to the bar and had 2 shots of tequilla at around midnight first cheat
Meal6 (2:30) Multivitamin, Chicken Breast & Protein smoothie w/ Ice, Frozen fruits (strawberries, blueberries, raspberries), 0%fat non-flavoured yogurt, skim milk, 4 scoops whey protein
Soon ill be taking ZMA and heading to sleep
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02-06-2009, 01:17 AM #3New Member
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Day 3
Weight today: 218.8 @ 26% bf
Have DOMS in my Bi's chest and shoulders, my back and tris however feel fine still. I had an amazing 12 hour uninterupted sleep last night and feel fantastic
Day 3:
Awoke at around 3:30pm
Meal 1 (3:45pm): a bowl of quaker oatmeal and 2 scoops of whey mixed with water
Supplements 1 (3:55): Fish liver oil, vitamin C, green tea extract, glutamine, multivitamin
Meal 3 (6:15): Protein Shake taken throughout gym session mixed with water
Gym Session (6:15):
Tried a new shocking principle; static strip sets which absolutely destroied my legs.
Leg extensions 3 sets 12 reps with a 20second hold at 75% weight at the end of each set
Standing leg curls 3 sets 12 reps "
Standing Calve Raises 3 sets 12 reps "
Leg Press 3 sets 12 reps "
Squats 3 sets 12 reps strict form
Workout ended (7:15)
Meal3 (PWO 7:45): Protein smoothie w/ Ice, Frozen fruits (strawberries,
blueberries, raspberries), 0%fat non-flavoured yogurt, skim milk, 4 scoops whey protein, dextrose, maltodextrin
Meal4 (8:00): Baked Fish (bass and sol) with lemon 2 pieces
Meal5 (10:45): Salad w/ extra virgin olive oil and lean chicken breast
Meal6 (12:30): I Had hoped to make it a little longer before my next meal but couldn't so I'm going to eat some more salad w/ olive oil and lean chicken breast before my night time meal in about an hour. Also took a multivitamin
Meal7 (2:15am): Taking my ZMA right now and then gunna down a protein shake with some glutamine and goto bed in 30min
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02-07-2009, 02:11 AM #4New Member
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Day4
Weight today: 219.8 @ 26% bf
Had trouble getting to sleep last night lied in bed for about 2-3 hours
Day 4:
Awoke at around 3:30pm
My first meal came late today as my baby niece was over and I was playing with her before I got to eat
Meal 1 (4:10pm): a bowl of quaker oatmeal with a diet coke
Supplements 1 (4:10): Fish liver oil, vitamin C, green tea extract, glutamine, multivitamin
Meal 2 (5:45): Protein Shake taken throughout gym session mixed with water
Gym Session (6:05):
Shoulders/Traps
Barbell Press 3 sets 12 reps followed by partial reps
Dumbell Shrugs 4 sets 12 reps followed by static holds
Standing Military Incline Press 3 sets 12 reps
Lateral Raises 3 sets 12 reps
Behind hte back barbell shrugs 2sets 10reps
Military press 3 sets 12 reps
Rear delt machine 3 sets 12 reps
Workout ended (7:15)
Meal3 (PWO 7:20): Protein mixed with water, dextrose, maltodextrin
Meal4 (8:30-3): Almonds were snacked on
Meal5 (3:00am): Salad w/ extra virgin olive oil and lean chicken breast, I felt like I could use some sodium so I had 6 olives which provided 310mg of sodium and I'm having a protein shake mixed with water 1.5 scoops (52.5g of protein) and had a multivitamin
In a little bit I'll take my ZMA and goto bed
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02-07-2009, 10:26 AM #5
Just keep going
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02-07-2009, 05:23 PM #6
keep up the work
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keep it up, bro!
and keep us posted on your progress
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02-08-2009, 03:18 AM #8New Member
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Day ?
Weight today: 218.8 @ 25% bf
Got to sleep around 5:45am
Ate a little bit higher caloric intake today, I did this because I did 2 workouts and I felt my body needed a bit more carbs for the day to rev my metabolism
Day 4:
Awoke at around 3:30pm
Meal 1 (3:45pm): a bowl of quaker oatmeal with a protein shake
Supplements 1 (4:50): Fish liver oil, vitamin C, green tea extract, glutamine, multivitamin
Meal 2 (5:45): Broccoli and lightly breaded chicken breast (felt I needed more carbs)
Gym Session (6:15):
Ran half a mile at 9pmh
then did 35min at max incline 3mph
Workout ended (7:15)
Meal3 (PWO 7:20-8:15): Protein mixed with water, dextrose, maltodextrin
Meal4/6 (9:30-3): Almonds were snacked on and a protein bar was eaten at midnight
Work 2 (3am)
Situps 3 sets
Leg raises 3 sets
Obliques 3 sets
bicep curls 3 sets 12x10x8 increasing weight
tricep pull down 3 sets 12x10x8 increasing weight
(supersets)
Hammer Curls 3 sets 10x8x6 increasing weight
tricep reverse machine pulldown 3 sets 12x10x8 increasing weight
(supersets)
Workout ended 3:45am
Meal 7: Protein shake w/ maltodextrin and dextrose
Meal8 (3:00am): Salad w/ extra virgin olive oil and lean chicken breast multivitamin and ZMA
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02-09-2009, 04:06 AM #9New Member
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Day 6
Weight today: 218.6 @ 25% bf
Got to sleep around 5:30am
Day 6:
Awoke at 3:00pm
Meal 1 (3:10pm): a bowl of quaker oatmeal with a protein shake, glutamine and a multivitamin
Supplements 1 (3:40): Fish liver oil, vitamin C, green tea extract
Meal 2 (5:45): Salad with extra virgin olive oil
Meal 3 (6:45): T-bone steak, asparagus, yam with a diet coke
Meal 5 (9:45): Protein shake sipped on during the workout
Gym Session (9:50):
35 min of light cardio for 500cals
Gym Session ended: 10:25
Meal 6 (10:30) 2 Scoops of Protein w/ maltodextrin and dextrose
Meal 7 (1:30) Protein Bar
Meal 8 (3:30) Salad w/ extra virgin olive oil, chicken breast, Multivitamin and ZMA
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02-10-2009, 03:24 AM #10New Member
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Day 7
Weight today: 217.6 @ 25% bf
Got to sleep around 5:30am
Day 7:
Awoke at 5:00pm
Meal 1 (5:15): a bowl of quaker oatmeal, glutamine and a multivitamin
Supplements 1 (5:30): Fish liver oil, vitamin C, green tea extract
Meal 2 (6:45): Protein Shake (70g protein) w/ yogurt 0% fat free, skim milk, and frozen fruit
Gym Session (7:15)
Deadlifts strict form 3 sets 12 reps
Low Rows Strict form 3 sets 12 reps
Straight arm lat pulldowns 3 sets 12 reps
Hammer strength pulldowns 3 sets 12 reps
T-Bar Row 3 sets 12 reps
Gym Session Ended (8:15)
Meal 3 (8:20): Protein shake w/ maltodextrin and dextrose
Meal 4 (11:15): Salad with lightly breaded chicken
Meal 5 (1:30): A small piece of T-bone steak
Meal 6 (3:15): Protein Shake
Meal 7 (4:30): Protein Bar & ZMA
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02-10-2009, 07:20 AM #11
Keep it up, upload pictures when you feel it
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02-10-2009, 09:51 PM #12
your diet needs quite a bit of help bro; head to the diet forum
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02-10-2009, 10:40 PM #13
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02-11-2009, 03:46 PM #14New Member
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Thanks for the input, the reason I had lightly breaded chicken with my salad is because I ran out of chicken breast but I bought another box the next day. The lightly breaded chicken was blue menu which only gave me 11g of carbs for 3 pieces.
I totally agree that I should have had a leaner cut of steak, I had it for a cheat meal the night before and I had about 15g of steak left over so I just gobbled it down.
My Protein with maltodextrin/dextrose was there because it was PWO, I think the absorption rate of egg whites and oatmeal would be to slow for a PWO meal (or I may be wrong? let me know).
I'm also trying to stay away from fructose the best I can.
Also the reason I haven't been doing cardio on an empty stomach is that, yes you do burn more fat but you also burn some more muscle . I'm a patient person and I'd rather keep my muscle then lose fat a little longer.
I am however thinking of throwing your oatmeal/egg idea for another meal into the day rather than a shake to get more solid foods
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02-11-2009, 03:54 PM #15New Member
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Any specifics? I mean i'm not trying to get into compeition shape and my final goal is only 15%bf. The rules i were following (although I could be wrong sinnce I've never been under 16% bf before) are these:
Carbs: The majority of carbs should come in your first meal in the form of low GI carbs (oatmeal), Almost the rest of your carbs should come in the form of PWO nutrition. Also throw a high carb day once a week to replenish energy stores. Make sure your sugar intake is low to reduce the amount of insulin produced so that your muscles become more insulin sensitive so they are ready for a strong bulk, except post workout where you need the insulin spike to counter act cortisol.
Protein: As much as you can get. (1-2g per lbs/bw)
Fat: Limit fat intake except if it is healthy fat (cod liver oil, almonds, olive oil etc).
These are the general rules i've been trying to follow, but like I said I'm new to this whole thing so any more specific advice is greatly appreciates, I already (now) know I'll need to ingest more solid foods instead of just protein shakes
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02-11-2009, 03:55 PM #16New Member
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Day 8
Weight today: 217.6 @ 25% bf
Got to sleep around 5:30am
Day 8:
Awoke at 3:00pm
Meal 1 (3:15): a bowl of quaker oatmeal, glutamine and a multivitamin
Supplements 1 (3:30): Fish liver oil, vitamin C, green tea extract
Meal 2 (6:00): Half a chicken breast and yogurt
Gym Session (6:15)
Decline barbell press 3 sets 12 reps
Incline Flies
Flat Bench
Flat Flies
Incline Press
Gym Session Ended (7:15)
Meal 3 (8:20): Protein shake w/ maltodextrin and dextrose
Meal 4 (9:30): Protein Bar
Meal 5 (10:00-2):Snacked on Almonds and had another protein bar at midnight
Meal 7 (3:00): Salad w/ extra virgin olive oil and a chicken breast
Meal 8 (4:00): Almonds w/ 2 diet cokes **not a good meal but I couldn't help it**
NO ZMA Tonight
Felt low on energy today so increased my carbs slightly by eating 2 protein bars (+30g of carbs) I'm looking to carb up tommorow with some healthier carbs.
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02-11-2009, 06:19 PM #17
and I said I would be happy at 220lbs....once your there, you want to see yourself make positive changes.
Your clearly somewhat dedicated seeing you have listed your diet out.
I'll give you some tips from what I know....I would be looking to talk with narkissos....he helped me tweak my cutting diet last week.
you need fat to lose fat, you can't have a set # of fat, protein, and carb cals until I know how many cals it takes to maintain your bodyweight.
Your correct, while cutting/bulking, low GI carbs are the best way to go. Fruit in the am or PWO is ok too.
PWO, I have found no proof that high/er GI carbs worked better than low i.e oats, wheat bread and I have tried almost every combo lol.
As far as protein, when you say 1-2lbs/bodyweight, that's very vague. This all depends on one's stats etc. You can take two of the same looking guys with same stats and one may need more or less to maintain or build muscle.
good fats i.e. natty peanutbutter, olive oil, some cheeses, fish, fish oil, nuts etc.
Vegetables; broccoli, green beans etc. are also a staple of my diet. I'm hungry 24/7 so anything to keep me functioning I love
I would get rid of any protein bars, whey protein, breaded chicken (I know you said you don't normally use this) etc and really clean the diet up. If you were strict and ate well, you should get to 10% without any problem and hold on to most your muscle.
If you came up with a diet, I'd be happy to critique it for you
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02-11-2009, 06:21 PM #18
If your goal is 150lbs your on your way there.....eating no where near enough IMO
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02-12-2009, 03:39 PM #19New Member
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Day 9
Weight today: 216.6 @ 25% bf
Got to sleep around 6:00am
Day 9:
Awoke at 4:00pm
Meal 1 (4:15): a bowl of quaker oatmeal, glutamine and a multivitamin
Supplements 1 (4:30): Fish liver oil, vitamin C, green tea extract
Meal 2 (6:00): Protein Shake
Gym Session (6:30)
20 Min 3mph treadmill max incline
20 Min Bike
Gym Session Ended (7:15)
Meal 3 (8:20): Protein shake w/ maltodextrin and dextrose
Meal 4 (9-10:30): 2 full eggs and 5 egg whites
Meal 5 (11:30): Protein Bar
Meal 6 (2:30): Salad w/ extra virgin olive oil and a chicken breast
ZMA
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02-13-2009, 03:15 AM #20New Member
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Day 9
Weight today: 216.8 @ 25% bf
Got to sleep around 5:30am
Day 9:
Awoke at 4:30pm
Meal 1 (4:45): a bowl of quaker oatmeal, glutamine and a multivitamin
Supplements 1 (4:30): Fish liver oil, vitamin C, green tea extract
Meal 2 (6:45): 2 eggs and a protein bar
Meal 3 (8:45): 2 eggs
Meal 4 (10:45): protein bar
Meal 5 (12:00): Brussel Sprouts and Green Beans
Gym (12:00)- Took a caffiene pill to boost energy
Squats 4 sets- 12/10/8/6 Heavier each set
Leg Press 6 sets 12/10/8/6/10/12 Pyrmaid weight
Crushed calves
Leg Extensions 3 sets- 25/20/25
Gym ended (1:00)
Meal 6 (1:15): Protein Shake w/ maltodextrin and dextrose
Meal 7 (4:00): Salad w/ extra virgin olive oil and chick breast multivitamin & ZMA
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02-15-2009, 02:21 AM #21New Member
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Uh oh
Weight today: 216.4 @ 25% bf
Got to sleep around 5:30am
Day 10 was a write off, no gym time, almost no sleep and my diet wasnt that great (although it wasn't that bad) trying to jump back on the wagon today
Day 11:
Awoke at 4:30pm
Meal 1 (4:45): a bowl of quaker oatmeal, glutamine and a multivitamin
Supplements 1 (4:45): Fish liver oil, vitamin C, green tea extract
Gym (6:15)
Military press 3x12
Standing machine press 3x12
Lateral Raises supersetted with front raises 3x12 for each
Upright rows 3x12
Gym Ended (7:15)
Meal 2 (7:15): Protein Shake
Meal 3 (8:45): Chicken Breast
Meal 4 (11:30): protein bar
Meal 5 (2:00): Green Beans
Meal 6 (1:15): Protein Shake w/ maltodextrin and dextrose
Meal 7 (3:20): Salad w/ extra virgin olive oil and chick breast multivitamin & ZMA
The diet still wasnt great today and I felt I under ate but I had to do school applications all day and need to get up early tommorow so I'm losing out on a meal.
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