First Cycle: Clomid only cycle

**gagabobo** · 03-23-2009, 08:25 AM

Im 20 years old and had planned on doing a test/deca for a 1st cycle

but since my genes are very prone to male pattern baldness
(my dad being bald at 30)
instead I will attempt the seldom attempted and unrecorded

CLOMID ONLY cycle
50 mg ED for a month

I do expect some steady gains from this, but nothing very drastic.

a diet plan and before pictures will be posted soon

Any comments or suggestions?

***D7M*** · 03-23-2009, 08:28 AM

any suggestions?

Um, do NOT do it...

and do some more research.

***T-MOS*** · 03-23-2009, 08:32 AM

??? what put this idea into your head??

YOU do know that clomid is NOT a steroid right??? Its a S E R M

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199849

BAD IDEA

and you are way too young to even consider the test/deca cycle as well

What are your complete stats

height
weight
bodyfat%
diet
training
goals
PCT knowledge

**Dukkit** · 03-23-2009, 08:33 AM

im lost

im goin back to the lounge

P.S. dont bother running your "clomid cycle"

**gagabobo** · 03-23-2009, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by T-MOS

??? what put this idea into your head??

YOU do know that clomid is NOT a steroid right??? Its a S E R M

Its definitely not a steroid
It may be a S E R M hormone but its also known for raising natural testosterone level.
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199849
this clomid cycle is just an experiment though. I've heard porn actors use the stuff.

height 5'7
weight 140
bodyfat% 11%

**CHAP** · 03-23-2009, 08:55 AM

lol...lmao...

**gagabobo** · 03-23-2009, 08:59 AM

here's another study that proves it can raise natural testosterone

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...?dopt=Abstract

***T-MOS*** · 03-23-2009, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by gagabobo

here's another study that proves it can raise natural testosterone

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...?dopt=Abstract

Yes, it is used during PCT to get your natural test back up and running

it will NOT raise your test levels to a point that would be good for bodybuilding, but hey, its your body, you know better than us

enjoy the side effects !!!

there are other BETTER test boosters with LESS side effects out there but hey, I have only been doing this for 30+ years, what do I know

**gagabobo** · 03-23-2009, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by T-MOS

Yes, it is used during PCT to get your natural test back up and running

it will NOT raise your test levels to a point that would be good for bodybuilding, but hey, its your body, you know better than us

enjoy the side effects !!!

there are other BETTER test boosters with LESS side effects out there but hey, I have only been doing this for 30+ years, what do I know

I highly respect your experience.

so... any recommended alternatives?

howcome you wouldnt recommend a test and deca cycle for a 20 year old like me? what would you recommend then?

***T-MOS*** · 03-23-2009, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by gagabobo

I highly respect your experience.

so... any recommended alternatives?

howcome you wouldnt recommend a test and deca cycle for a 20 year old like me? what would you recommend then?

OK all jokes and flames aside.

no, i wouldn't recommend steroids for you right now, unless you have had blood work done to determine that your test levels are low, I would FIRST look at your eating habits

if you would post up what you intake in a typical day and with times you eat , that is where you can make the biggest impact on how you grow.

at your age, you should still have MORE than enough hormones running through your body and there is NO need in shutting that off and risking not getting them back up to their normal levels yet.

**The Deuce** · 03-23-2009, 10:10 AM

WOW !! LOL...

**number twelve** · 03-23-2009, 10:19 AM

good job t-mos

**intensityfreak** · 03-23-2009, 10:36 AM

sorry but...lllllllllooooooolllllllll i had too

**gagabobo** · 03-23-2009, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by T-MOS

OK all jokes and flames aside.

no, i wouldn't recommend steroids for you right now, unless you have had blood work done to determine that your test levels are low, I would FIRST look at your eating habits

if you would post up what you intake in a typical day and with times you eat , that is where you can make the biggest impact on how you grow.

at your age, you should still have MORE than enough hormones running through your body and there is NO need in shutting that off and risking not getting them back up to their normal levels yet.

Point taken T-Mos.
I dont know the calorie count and such but i do know that
I eat 5 to 6 meals a day consisting of rice, meat (usually chicken, cow, tuna), vegetable and egg.
before sleeping i drink milk and eat oats.

thanks T-mos I will consider taking a blood test before deciding whether or not to engage in the juice.

Im frustrated because I've been hitting on and off the gym for 6 years now with very small gains.

**gagabobo** · 03-23-2009, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by T-MOS

Yes, it is used during PCT to get your natural test back up and running

it will NOT raise your test levels to a point that would be good for bodybuilding

I agree, it is normally used during PCT the reason being that it indirectly restores and boosts natural testosterone level.

there is no recorded attempt regarding its usage during a cycle and that is why I would like to experiment and find out for myself. The mild side effects hopefully wouldnt bother me.

I am not a hardcore body builder like most of you so I am satisfied with a slight increase in natural testosterone.

***T-MOS*** · 03-23-2009, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by gagabobo

Point taken T-Mos.
I dont know the calorie count and such but i do know that
I eat 5 to 6 meals a day consisting of rice, meat (usually chicken, cow, tuna), vegetable and egg.
before sleeping i drink milk and eat oats.

thanks T-mos I will consider taking a blood test before deciding whether or not to engage in the juice.

Im frustrated because I've been hitting on and off the gym for 6 years now with very small gains.

ok, well tomorrow or today, write down all your meals even without caloires it will give us an idea of what needs changed.

try to get an idea of at least amounts like one chicken breast or a 12 oz steak or 4 eggs or whatever it is

***T-MOS*** · 03-23-2009, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by gagabobo

Point taken T-Mos.
I dont know the calorie count and such but i do know that
I eat 5 to 6 meals a day consisting of rice, meat (usually chicken, cow, tuna), vegetable and egg.
before sleeping i drink milk and eat oats.

thanks T-mos I will consider taking a blood test before deciding whether or not to engage in the juice.

Im frustrated because I've been hitting on and off the gym for 6 years now with very small gains.

the above statement alone is reason for not good gains. you don't have to be a hardcore lifter to see good gains, with CONSISTENT training for 6 years !

a month here and a month there of not training will hold you back more than anything

body building, or body sculpting is a Marathon NOT a sprint, there is not quick fix even for us hardcore guys that do cylces. we don't stop, we don't go on and off,

althought boosting test is always good, it is NOT your problem, it is your training and diet

which are easy fixes if you can dedicate yourself to your goals

**subaruwrx04** · 03-23-2009, 11:08 AM

Dude your better off running a dbol oral only cycle. Clomid only uggh wtf are you thinking..

**number twelve** · 03-23-2009, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by subaruwrx04

Dude your better off running a dbol oral only cycle. Clomid only uggh wtf are you thinking..

why would u even mention dbol only...lol

**binsser** · 03-23-2009, 01:27 PM

for frist cycle it would be test only but like above said ur still too young mate just diet differantly u really wouldnt believe the results!

**rhinoman** · 03-23-2009, 01:40 PM

if you want slight gains go with no2 creatine and protein. maybe throw some tribulus in there if you want a slight test boost. Ur body is ready to grow by itself at 20. Perfect ur Diet and training, you will see great gains without drugs from that.

**WARMachine** · 03-23-2009, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by subaruwrx04

Dude your better off running a dbol oral only cycle. Clomid only uggh wtf are you thinking..

Way to put ideas into his head...

**subaruwrx04** · 03-23-2009, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by WARMachine

Way to put ideas into his head...

LOL.. Ok Ill add onto it. Dbol only cycle sucks you will lose all your gains.. If you wanting to do Dbol alone just give me your cash and say goodbye too it. Thats what your going to do anyway if you do it alone.

**WARMachine** · 03-23-2009, 05:59 PM

Much better bro!

**gagabobo** · 03-23-2009, 06:32 PM

i highly agree T-mos.

however for the past 2 years i have been consistent with my training and my diet. No meal plans however because I love to eat different variations of food everyday. Im still young afterall and I wouldnt want to limit my taste buds.

I will try to put one up though as a resolution.

I dont think my natural testosterone would be in jeopardy if i intake clomid because nothing shuts down unlike the intake of external synthetic testosterone

**Emondo** · 03-24-2009, 04:22 AM

Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw

im lost

im goin back to the lounge

P.S. dont bother running your "clomid cycle"

lol

**WARMachine** · 03-25-2009, 03:21 AM

Originally Posted by gagabobo

i highly agree T-mos.

however for the past 2 years i have been consistent with my training and my diet. No meal plans however because I love to eat different variations of food everyday. Im still young afterall and I wouldnt want to limit my taste buds.

I will try to put one up though as a resolution.

I dont think my natural testosterone would be in jeopardy if i intake clomid because nothing shuts down unlike the intake of external synthetic testosterone

No you dont need to worry about that, but you should worry about this.

"Serum total estrogen, however, was elevated in all; the significance of this high circulating estrogen in relation to gonadal dysfunction in uremia is not clear at the present time. However, we found that normalization of circulating androgen was beneficial to our patients and that long-term clomiphene treatment achieved this goal by increasing pituitary gonadotropin secretion and secondarily stimulating testicular hormonogenesis."

But either way, its not gonna raise your Test high enough to see any signifigant muscle gain at 50mgs ED for 4 weeks.

Sounds like a stupid idea. Sorry to be harsh, but thats what it is. Totally pointless and just generally a waste of time, not to mention the possiblity of you doing other dumb ideas because nothing bad happend to you, this time!

**RoidBoid** · 03-26-2009, 03:42 PM

classic hall of shame

**jtmcpherson** · 03-26-2009, 07:14 PM

If you bought a bottle of Tribulus at a health food store you'd get better gains.

**WARMachine** · 03-26-2009, 08:56 PM

classic hall of shame

Its already in there...

**Shurik** · 03-26-2009, 09:42 PM

Thank god he came to this site for an advice before doing something stupid.

**boDAWG** · 03-27-2009, 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by gagabobo

Im 20 years old and had planned on doing a test/deca for a 1st cycle

but since my genes are very prone to male pattern baldness
(my dad being bald at 30)
instead I will attempt the seldom attempted and unrecorded

CLOMID ONLY cycle
50 mg ED for a month

I do expect some steady gains from this, but nothing very drastic.

a diet plan and before pictures will be posted soon

Any comments or suggestions?

a clomid only cycle? what do you plan on accomplishing? throwing away some money???

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