Test Ethanate 500mg x 12 wks First Cycle Log

[jackjackson]

Well lets see.
Over the past week I have been watching videos over and over and documentation on how to do the injections.
I have a fear of needles, well not a fear but I forgot the name.
I get all light headed and sweaty.

Anyways I woke up ate, took a shower loaded the stuff.
Sat there swab my ass cheek, hope I can do squats tomorrow.
I sat down and was unable to do it.
It was was to the point of poking it in. (NO HOMO DSM)
Then I got all light headed and what not.
Anyways I had someone else do it, used a 22g 1 1/2" 1ml
It didn't hurt at all honestly, but the smell of the alcohol made me all light headed again.
I went to lay down for a bit again.
Next shot will be quads or delts, just hope it doesnt screw up my workout.


This is the diet I will be using, might modify it a bit





http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...97#post4679597



This will not be a very detailed log until the 4th or 5th or 6th week.
Regardless this is the log




here are some old threads with photos when I first started out

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=364997


here are the most recent with a last natural bulk

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=389058



Enjoy....

[RANA]

What are your stats?
Congrats on the injection but why do guads or delts? I assume your injecting every 3.5 days?

[jackjackson]

I am doing the Monday morning Tuesday even schedule
Got my cycle advice from the forums here, some guy recommended me pyramiding deca, test and dbol for my first cycle lol.
5'8
185 currently with 12-14% BF from last natural bulk
I think im at 4-5 years natural now.
Competed last year in an NPC drug free show
Id like to change up the sites and also get used to other sites for the future.
I mean 2 x per week i could just use my ass.

[RANA]

I am doing the Monday morning Tuesday even scheduleGot my cycle advice from the forums here, some guy recommended me pyramiding deca, test and dbol for my first cycle lol.
5'8
185 currently with 12-14% BF from last natural bulk
I think im at 4-5 years natural now.
Competed last year in an NPC drug free show
Id like to change up the sites and also get used to other sites for the future.
I mean 2 x per week i could just use my ass.

Was this a typo?

[jackjackson]

Yeah, oops
Thursday

[RANA]

Well I saw your pics and looked at your diet and I have to say it looks good. What do you plan on running for PCT?

[jackjackson]

nolva/clomid pct

Here was the thread when I was looking for info

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=388820

[RANA]

nolva/clomid pct

Here was the thread when I was looking for info

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=388820

Just read it, looks good. BTW glad you listen to everyones advice regarding one compound. I think you will be happy especially since your diet is in check

[jackjackson]

Thanks, I respect advice given here vs the street.
Alot of people tend to do things in life without understanding what they are doing, how it affects them be it juice, jobs, the gym, there diet, there wife.
Never go into something without fully understanding it.
I give myself 10 years, My goal is to grab at least a national card and then from there try for a pro card.
The pro card is a long shot but I will never know until I try.

[jackjackson]

I was thinking of adding beta-alanine to my cycle to be able to push out some more reps and do some more damage, but was unsure.
I normally stack beta-alanine with my creatine mono.
Just a though since I will be building and repairing at a faster rate.

[RANA]

IMO I wouldnt use creatine, I would save that for afterwards. Your goal is to gain mass using test E. By adding creatine you will not see the full potential of your test. When you get on your PCT then by all means use creatine, remember this is only my opinion

[jackjackson]

I think i was misunderstood.
I was referring to my old natural bulk cycle that was what I used.
I was wondering just adding beta-alanine to pump a few more reps out.
Any creatine or anything like so will be pct.

[jackjackson]

So far Nothing big except that im a little bit more red.
Will start monitoring my blood pressure

[jackjackson]

Thinking of adding 20-30 mins of cardio in low intensity 4 times per week PWO.
Any thoughts on this

[_CrossroadS_]

Yes, I did it in the beginning of my cycle, with a carb deficiency, and i lost a good bit of fat. I'd imagine keeping your carbs up and doing the cardio still would allow you to keep bf down while you bulk.

[jackjackson]

Im going to give it a shot.
I prefer to do AM on an empty stomach but I will do it PWO as i rather get my sleep during this cycle and i prefer not to add another whey shake in the am as I would have to pre cardio.

[jackjackson]

Also to note I have been taking my nitrix 3 times per day as usual.
Also this is my first week back and I normally am pretty sore after taking a week off.
I notice I'm not anywhere near that sore.
While I'm on this cycle should I hit my lagging body parts 2x per week or not?
Also should I up my protein a bit say casein at night and about 5-7 more egg whites in the morning?

[RANA]

Thinking of adding 20-30 mins of cardio in low intensity 4 times per week PWO.
Any thoughts on this

In doing 30 mins of cardio/low intensity 5 days per week usually PWO, wihule on this cycle and am not having any issues keeping or getting mass.

[jackjackson]

In doing 30 mins of cardio/low intensity 5 days per week usually PWO, wihule on this cycle and am not having any issues keeping or getting mass.

You are currently doing this?
I assume thats a typo
I normally hit the treadmill high incline 3.6-4.2
So I'll hit my workout, then do some cardio then have my PWO shake
or should I have my PWO as soon as I finish the sets, will it still be burning fat or not due to the contents of shake which is
1 scoop on whey
1 scoop probolic-sr
2 scoops waxymaize
5G BCAA
5-10G Glutamine

[RANA]

You are currently doing this?
I assume thats a typo
I normally hit the treadmill high incline 3.6-4.2
So I'll hit my workout, then do some cardio then have my PWO shake
or should I have my PWO as soon as I finish the sets, will it still be burning fat or not due to the contents of shake which is
1 scoop on whey
1 scoop probolic-sr
2 scoops waxymaize
5G BCAA
5-10G Glutamine

As soon as I finish lifting I will drink my PWO shake while I am doing cardio. The reason for this is that my body is currently starving for nutrition and at a low intensity pace it's easy to drink. You still will burn fat by doing cardio PWO and drinking a protein shake.
standard cardio is usually:
20 mins for maintance
30-40 mins for burning fat and not eating away your muscles
My PWO shake consist of 2 scoops of whey (about 40 grams of protein), 5g of BCAA and glutamine

[jackjackson]

As soon as I finish lifting I will drink my PWO shake while I am doing cardio. The reason for this is that my body is currently starving for nutrition and at a low intensity pace it's easy to drink. You still will burn fat by doing cardio PWO and drinking a protein shake.
standard cardio is usually:
20 mins for maintance
30-40 mins for burning fat and not eating away your muscles
My PWO shake consist of 2 scoops of whey (about 40 grams of protein), 5g of BCAA and glutamine

Not to bad, pretty similar.
My thought was id hit the cardio and it would consume the PWO shake for the energy instead of fat.
I know at this time PWo - 45 mins the muscles are pretty much a sponge.
But your thoughts make more sense
Also have some clen I can use for PCT.
I did a Blood glucose log of the waxymaize and it did not spike my insulin much at all.
I toss in 30 mins of cardio as Id like to be a bit leaner


Any thoughts on upping my protein a bit
Thanks bro

[jackjackson]

Update
2nd shot today, Had problem getting liquid out.
Last time I sat it in a plastic Tupperware thing with water that was microwaved for minute.
Injected 1ml of air into it and pulled up perfectly fine with no air inbetween.
This time I had to tip the bottle upside down.
Every time I keep pulling straight up and the bottom down I was getting wonderful air pockets and was unable to measure accordingly.
was scared it'd drip out or some shit.
But it didn't, so I learned there lol.
Today I hit bis/tris, drank PWO shake and did some low intensity cardio after for 30 mins.
My pumps today were better than usual.
I also noticed my body odor changed, its not my normal stink.
Thats all for now 3 - 4 more weeks for noticeable improvements.

[jackjackson]

After doing some research on some "Protein on Cycle" Threads because no one responded to my thread.
I decided to up my protein intake up at 2 meals.
I upped the casein to 2 full servings
I upped my beef from 6oz to 8oz
I could up the other 2 meals which are 30g, but there package that way unless I add a few ounces of beef or turkey.

[jackjackson]

3rd shot today.
So far all my shots are painless.
Not sure if its the brand but no pain.
Will post photos tonight after workout and cardio just to mark 1 week

[awms]

3rd shot today.
So far all my shots are painless.
Not sure if its the brand but no pain.
Will post photos tonight after workout and cardio just to mark 1 week

Yeah its the brand...Im shooting 375mg of test all at once and ther no pain at all. I think it all depends on the lab and what amount of solvent they use. Some guy who's making gear in his bathtub and selling it is prob more likely to **** up then a reputable UG lab or pharmacy. I thought my shit was fake at first because my shots are going in so easy but my guy told me to trust him.

[seriousmass]

Yeah its the brand...Im shooting 375mg of test all at once and ther no pain at all. I think it all depends on the lab and what amount of solvent they use. Some guy who's making gear in his bathtub and selling it is prob more likely to **** up then a reputable UG lab or pharmacy. I thought my shit was fake at first because my shots are going in so easy but my guy told me to trust him.

Pain is determined by the concentration of the gear (high concentration = more pain. Test-400, which is 400mg/mL hurts like HELL to inject, and it's made by a reputable pharmacy)

It can also be determined by the amount of B.A. % in the gear.

[jackjackson]

Pain is determined by the concentration of the gear (high concentration = more pain. Test-400, which is 400mg/mL hurts like HELL to inject, and it's made by a reputable pharmacy)

It can also be determined by the amount of B.A. % in the gear.

That is new to me.
I only read/heard about it hurting when the BA is higher in UGL gear.
Learn something new daily

[jackjackson]

Sorry will put photos up.
Taken them just have to edit them.
Today injected again, this time like normal bleed a bit more than normal.
Also injection in glute is swollen, used a 22g 1 1/2" 1ml test-e.
Did it the same way as before, not sure why it flammed up this time, same gear.
Currently icing it

[jackjackson]

heres a photo of it

[jackjackson]

Anyone..
Do i need another shot if it did not go IM?
Its a little hard on the outside, just got home from the gym and the swelling has went down.
Doesn't hurt at all really

[jackjackson]

Going for a delt injection after speaking to someone here.
Still trying to muster up and prick myself

[RANA]

Going for a delt injection after speaking to someone here.
Still trying to muster up and prick myself

After you do it you will say "Shit that was easy!!!"

[jackjackson]

Yeh hopefully, wasted 2 1/2 hours just sitting there all ready.
Wish I had 25g all I have is 23g 1" and 22g 1 1/2" and 18G's
Did nothing, will get it done tonight by someone or myself hopefully.
God i want to overcome this shit

[RANA]

You should be fine with 23g 1" (how thick is your chest?)
just sit there and relax, rest your (the side you are injecting) on your lap. Look down be about an inch away before you jab, take a breath and stick.
You will come back and say I cant believe I was worried about it.
You best bet is to do it yourself, you can not rely on other people to stick you.

[jackjackson]

I was going to prick myself without looking, then I could do it, but i wanted to make sure it went to the perfect spot.
I sat there and watched videos on videos of how to do IM injections.
Cant wait to do it.
Does my ass look that bad?
I was afraid the oil wouldn't be absorbed as much.
I spoke with another mod and he suggested another shot if I have gear to spare which I do.
So I will do another one tonight, my ass doesnt hurt.

[jackjackson]

Someone else jabbed me, went in fine.
A little bit of blood but arm is fine, no swelling.
Guess theres next time.
Soon I will overcome it.
BTW 4th shot Im noticing size difference already even though most say it comes weeks 4-5.
Its not alot but I am defiantly bigger.
And my arms on arm day got to 16.5 normally 16 max on creatine.
Also had to go up a shirt size already.
Hoping for 17

[jackjackson]

6th shot today since I did another one friday after I felt the 4th one did not get absorbed as well.
Today was a bit different, glutes again 22g 1 1/2".
This time during the injection I felt a bit of pain near the end of the injection as the oil was going in.
Normally its smooth.
I just hope my gear turns out to be legit, as I posted it on here and got some good vibes from members.
Well 1-2 more weeks and I'll know
Will take photos after tomorrow morning.
I have photos from week 1 2 and this will be 3 and also pre.
Otherwise so far no sides.
No acne really, no nut shrinking, oil production in my body is id say the same.
Just my shirts I had to up the size.

[jackjackson]

Did my other shot yesterday in the delts.
So far Im starting to notice a bit of size, nothing major yet.
But other people are starting to chat.
Well this monday - friday is when Im expecting the size increase.
My ass is black and blue from that shot, I have not shot there until it fully clears.

I was wondering if I should take anything to keep the water retention down and not sure if i keep it down will that hinder any of my results.
Honestly I don't care for the bloat that much

[jackjackson]

Today will be another shot
week 4 no size or water increase also
Taking arimidex.5mg EOD
Got bloodwork back and test Im using seems legit

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

IMO if i were you id forget the adex, you might hinder your gains... unless you absolutely NEED it, but a little water retention is nothing to go crazy about.. itll go away eventually