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07-03-2010, 11:03 AM #481Banned - RETARD
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Another of your crazy logs man!!!
You really have time to dedicate to fill this data.
What's your occupation?
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07-11-2010, 10:22 AM #482New Member
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Hey how didi the anavar effect your cardio during BJJ? Better or worse?
Thanks
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07-11-2010, 10:39 AM #484New Member
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thanks,
Currently on a winny only and its messing with my cardio during kickboxing, chest tightness and racing heart beat for hours afterwards.
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07-11-2010, 11:27 AM #486New Member
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07-14-2010, 12:29 PM #487New Member
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So BJJ, after all this extensive learning & experience you've just accomplished, what's the best PCT route as you said earlier you believe the right PCT is key to a var cycle. I thought just 2-4 weeks on nolva is ok but i see you've been mixing it up..
I've read about clomid causing blindness!? Isn't nolva safer?
others, please chime in too.Last edited by grinderman; 07-14-2010 at 12:31 PM.
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07-14-2010, 12:43 PM #488
I decide what PCT to run based on my blood work which I take before the cycle and 1 week before the end of the bulking period. I do not guess in blindness.
That being said, Oxandrolone should be stack with Mesterolone.
This sinergy would allow your LH values not to drop during the cycle and this could lead to a faster and easier PCT.
Tamoxifen only can be the solution even though its sinergy with clomiphene seemed to work better for me.
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07-14-2010, 01:36 PM #489New Member
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Thanks BJJ. If your avata is you then i'm sold on var. You look like like a lean mean fighting machine!
One last one - diet is the biggest factor. Could you recommend any tools (on-line calculators?) or formulas to calculate calories?
I found this excel calculator brilliant! http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post500438281Last edited by grinderman; 07-14-2010 at 01:44 PM.
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07-14-2010, 02:21 PM #490
I am lean not because of steroids lol.
Look at my picture before starting the first anavar only cycle.
I was lean too.
Diet is the key and yes you may use that excel sheet if you know it to be well setup.
In any case, I am sure you know the Kcal for each macro, if not be aware that protides and glucides = 4 Kcal per g, fats = 9 Kcal per g and alcohol = 7 Kcal per g. I am sure you do not need the last one, but if you drink a beer...
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07-14-2010, 03:19 PM #491New Member
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Have you got any before var pictures to compare how lean you were?
This thread is so helpful. Thanks again!
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10-09-2010, 06:15 AM #496New Member
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BJJ, all I can say is thank you for your dedication to this thread. I have read this log from start to finish, and I know that with the amount of information discussed here I will definitely go back through it to glean even more information. I'll also be considering your advice to stack Mesterolone with the Var. Im curious to know whether you think taking some kind of natural test booster would be beneficial at all during a Var cycle to help maintain any sort of decent test levels, or would it be wasted $$$ due to the immense suppression of Test by the Var?
Thanks again for your time.
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10-11-2010, 01:19 AM #497
Your second assumption is the one correct, IMHO.
Good Luck
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10-11-2010, 10:25 PM #498New Member
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So did the extra mass help or hurt your bjj game?
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10-13-2010, 02:11 AM #499
I was helped with this cycle but from the second one on, using testosterone , I had problems to roll and keep endurance.
This is the reason why I have added rHuEPO with great results.
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Thanks. I'll check it out.
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01-10-2011, 07:24 PM #503New Member
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Thanks for you answer. I ended up getting the proviron after all.
I copied your cycle (almost) and did it last fall for 6 weeks. I gained over 13lbs of lean muscle and didnt add on any fat. This has helped me at my sport. Right now its been like 4 months since I finished taking clomid and nolvadex , and all my levels have gone back to normal. Being "unbiased" I can say that I still have 70% of the strength I gained, but about 4 lbs of lean muscle mass have hit the road. Well that usually happens anyways when the season starts in the late fall, since its hard to play competitive bball and hold your weight high and steady. Currently I am 6 foot 6 inches and 240lbs. People noticed the gain last fall, but it wasnt amazing enough for people to start up some rumours. People did notice my hard work though, since I did hit the weight room pretty hard with my trainer and teammates.....
So my questions to you are following:
1. For the rest of the season I was thinking about taking some anavar and proviron (60mg ed anavar, and 100mg proviron ed) for 4 to 6 weeks. I dont want the gains to become too visual, but I still was wandering if you would recommend or object of me taking a mild dose of test with this. (since I have 2hours of bball every day = a lot of cardio ;( )
2. The season is over in the spring, so I was wandering what you would recommend me taking for the remainder, if any. (just to stay on my toes, or taking off from them)?
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01-11-2011, 05:24 PM #505New Member
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Thank you for your thought.
So could the following dosage work: 60mg anavar ed - 100mg proviron ed - Testosterone Propionate /Suspension 250mg a week. (or Testosterone Enanthate /Cypionate /Decanoate/Undecanoate)
That is: What test would you recommend, in my case, and at what dosage?
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01-12-2011, 02:14 AM #506
I would bump the anavar to 70 mg ed, ok for mesterolone.
Regarding test, I would avoid short esters otherwise you had to be compelled to shoot ed or oed; not to mention suspension...
I would opt for test enanthate @ 250 mg ew (2 shots).
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01-23-2011, 03:01 PM #507Junior Member
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Could you describe the strength increases and muscle gain on your Anavar cycle?
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01-23-2011, 09:14 PM #509Junior Member
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What is post n.2.?
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01-24-2011, 12:32 AM #510
Nice job dude and good records. Keep up the good work.
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01-24-2011, 03:13 AM #511
CYCLE:
BULKING (23/09/2009 - 17/11/2009)
Week 1-8 Oxandrolone [UG] 60 mg ed (ttl 2.940 mg) (Breakfast/Lunch)
Week 4-7 Mesterolone [PG] 50 mg ed (ttl 1.400 mg) (Breakfast/Dinner)
PCT (18/11/2009 - 28/12/2009)
Week 9-10 Clomiphene Citrate [PG] 50/50 mg ed (ttl 700 mg) (Breakfast)
Week 9-11 Tamoxifen Citrate [PG] 20/20/20 mg ed (ttl 420 mg) (Breakfast)
Week 11-12 Clenbuterol Hydrochloride [PG] 60/60/80/80/100/100/100/100/60/60 mcg ed (ttl 800 mcg) (Breakfast)
Week 12-13 Glutathione [PG] 600 mg ed (ttl 6.000 mg) (Morning)
IUPAC:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=439055
DIET:
BMR: 1.954 Kcal
Daily Diet (3.159 Kcal): 300 g of Protides, 55 g of Lipides, 366 g of Glucides
Protides/Glucides Relation: 0,81
Supplements: Multi Vitamins/Minerals, Vitamin C/Ester, EFA complex, ALA, LIV.52, CLA, ZMA, Chromium Picolinate, Acetyl L-Carnitine, Coenzyme Q10, Glutamine, BCAA, Glucosamine, Chondroitin Sulfate, Glycine, l-Arginine, Alpha-Ketoisocaproic Acid Calcium.
STRENGTH (8 reps):__________________________________________Da y 56
Squat (legs) 100 kg (220 lbs)_______________________________________130 kg (286 lbs) +30%
One Arm Dumbbell Row (back) 30 kg (66 lbs)___________________________44 kg (96,8 lbs) +46,66%
Bench Press with Dumbbells (chest) 30 kg (66 lbs) each_________________40 kg (88 lbs) +33,33%
Military Press with Dumbbells (shoulders) 24 kg (52,8 lbs) each____________34 kg (74,8 lbs) +41,66%
Dumbbells Curls (biceps - seated) 24 kg (52,8 lbs) each_________________30 kg (66 lbs) +25%
Dumbbells Curls (triceps - lying down) 18 kg (39,6 lbs) each______________24 kg (52,8 lbs) +33,33%
Strength Acquisition: 35% estimate
Formula: (current-previous)/previous*100 = (+) increase% or (-) decrease%
STATS:__________________________________________Day 16_____________________________Day 35_____________________________Day 56______________________________________Day 62 (1W PCT)
36 years old, 187 cm (6'2" ft)
Body Weight: 87,5 kg (192,5 lbs)_________________________94,5 kg (207,9 lbs) +8%_____________98,9 kg (217,6 lbs) +13,02%_________96,5 kg (212,3 lbs) +10,28%__________________94,7 kg (208,3 lbs) +8,23%
Body Fat: 12,9%______________________________________14% +8,52%_______________________14,6% +13,17%____________________14% +8,52%________________________________12,3% -3,14%
Body Water: 63,2%____________________________________63,6% +0,63%_____________________63,8% +0,94%_____________________64% +1,26%
Estimated Muscle Mass: 73,5 kg (161,7 lbs)________________77,3 kg (170,6 lbs) +5,17%__________80,3 kg (176,66 lbs) +9,25%_________78,9 kg (173,58 lbs) +7,34%__________________79,6 kg (175,1 lbs) +8,30%
Lean Body Mass Acquisition (LBM): 9,043 kg (19,89 lbs)
New Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR): 2.053 Kcal
Complete Cycle Log: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...97#post5002497
BLOOD WORK, URINE, FAECES & SPERM ANALYSES:
__________________________________________________18__________36__________51__________56__________98 (4W PCT)_____122 (8W PCT)
BLOOD
ERYTHROCYTES: 5,18 mil/mmc [4 - 5,5]__________________________________________________ ___5,2_________5,34
LEUCOCYTES: 7,3 mila/mmc [4 - 9]__________________________________________________ _______8,6_________7,5
- NE: 4,1 / 55,8 % [2 - 6 / 37 - 80]__________________________________________________ __________________4,1 / 54,8
- LY: 2,4 / 33 % [0,6 - 36 / 10 - 50]__________________________________________________ _________________2,7 / 35,6
- MO: 0,6 / 8,6 % [0 - 0,9 / 0 - 12]__________________________________________________ __________________0,5 / 7,1
- EO: 0,2 / 2,1 % [0 - 7 / 0 - 7]__________________________________________________ _____________________0,1 / 1,8
- BA: 0 / 0,5 % [0 - 0,2 / 0 - 2,5]__________________________________________________ ____________________0,1 / 0,7
HEMOGLOBIN: 14,9 gr/dl [14 - 18]__________________________________________________ ________13,6________15,6
HEMATOCRIT: 45,3 % [42 - 52]__________________________________________________ __________44,1________45,5
MCV: 87,5 femtol [82 - 98]__________________________________________________ ______________84,8________85,2
MCH: 28,8 picogr. [27 - 31]__________________________________________________ _____________26,2________29,2
MCHC: 32,9 gr/dl [32 - 36]__________________________________________________ ______________30,8________34,3
RDW: 13,5 % [11,6 - 16]__________________________________________________ ___________________________14
GRAN-NEUTROPHILS: 55,8 % [37 - 80]__________________________________________________ ____60,7________54,8
GRAN-EOSINOPHILS: 2,1 % [0 - 7]__________________________________________________ ________1,9_________1,8
GRAN-BASOPHILS: 0,5 % [0 - 2,5]__________________________________________________ ________0,7_________0,7
LYMPHOCYTES: 33,0 % [10 - 50]__________________________________________________ ________28,4________35,6
MONOCYTES: 8,6 % [0 - 12]__________________________________________________ _____________8,3_________7,1
PLATELETS: 163000 /mmc [150000 - 400000]________________________________________________336000_____164000
PCT: 0,12 % [0,1 - 1]__________________________________________________ ______________________________0,12
MPV: 7,3 fl [5 - 10]__________________________________________________ ________________________________7,2
PDW: 17,4 % [12 - 18]__________________________________________________ _____________________________18,5
HEART, KIDNEYS, LIVER, PANCREAS & PROSTATE
GLYCEMIA (basal): 90 mg/dl [70 - 110]__________________________________________________ ________________98
QUICK PROTHROMBIN TIME: 13,7 s_________________________________________________ ____________________13,1
PROTHROMBIN ACTIVITY: 69,6 % [70- 130]__________________________________________________ ___________86
INR: 1,18__________________________________________________ ________________________________________1,09
APTT: 27,5 s_________________________________________________ ______________________________________27,8
FIBRINOGEN: 185 mg/dl [180 - 350]__________________________________________________ __________________184,7
HOMOCYSTEINE: 10 mcmoli/l [6 - 15]__________________________________________________ _________________9,5
MYOGLOBIN: 26 ng/ml [10 - 46]__________________________________________________ ______________________38
AZOTEMIA: 49 mg/dl [15 - 40]________________________62__________57_______________________56_________53______________52,8
CREATININE: 1,2 mg/dl [0,8 - 1,3]_____________________1,2__________1,2______________________1,3_________1,3
HYPERURICEMIA: 5,9 mg/dl [3,5 - 7,2]__________________________________________________ ________________5,5
CHOLESTEROL TTL: 168 mg/dl [140 - 220]______________179_________205______________________232________194
CHOLESTEROL VLDL: 33 mg/dl [20 - 40]__________________________________________________ _______________30
CHOLESTEROL LDL: 105 mg/dl [<150]___________________157_________199_____________________202_________129_____________101
CHOLESTEROL HDL: 41 mg/dl [>40]_ ___________________13__________11_______________________13__________45
INDEX RISK HDL: 4,1 [till 5]___________________________13,76_______19,2_____________________17,8________4,3
APO A1: 185 mg/dl [115 - 220]__________________________________________________ ______________________190
APO B: 77 mg/dl [55 - 125]__________________________________________________ __________________________79
RATIO B/A1 APO: 0,41 [0,35 - 1]__________________________________________________ _____________________0,41
TRIGLYCERIDES: 95 mg/dl [<150]__________________________________________________ _____________________104
GAMMA (YGT): 28 u/ltr [15 - 85]______________________29__________28_______________________26__________40
ALKALINE PHOSPHATASE: 71 u/ltr [50 - 136]__________________________________________________ ___________72
BILIRUBIN TTL: 1,98 mg/dl [0,2 - 1]___________________0,83_________0,78_________________________________0,93____________1,54
BILIRUBIN DIRECT: 0,22 mg/dl [0,05 - 0,3]______________0,1__________0,1__________________________________0,1_____________0,53
BILIRUBIN INDIRECT: 1,76 mg/dl [till 0,7]________________0,73________0,68_________________________________0,83____________1,01
TRANSAMINASE GOT/AST: 21 u/ltr [15 - 37]_____________55__________50_______________________46_________28______________58
TRANSAMINASE GPT/ALT: 41 u/ltr [30 - 65]_____________86__________66_______________________95__________71______________77
FERRITIN: 124,5 ng/ml [24 - 336]__________________________________________________ ____________________124
LIPASE: 236 u/ltr [114 - 284]__________________________________________________ ________________________298____________216
AMYLASE: 62 u/ltr [25 - 115]_________________________55__________63_______________________64__________75_____________76
LDH: 160 u/ltr [100 - 190]__________________________________________________ __________________________155
CPK MB: 200 u/ltr [35 - 232]__________________________________________________ ________________________230
CK NAK: 150 u/l [till 167]__________________________________________________ ___________________________165
PROTIDES TTL: 7,4 gr/dl [6,4 - 8,2]__________________________________________________ _______7,8_________7,7
ALBUMIN: 59,1 % [51 - 63,3]__________________________________________________ ____________60,3________63,1
ALFA 1: 2,9 % [2,2 - 4,3]__________________________________________________ _______________2,4_________2,3
ALFA 2: 10,1 % [9,5 - 14]__________________________________________________ ______________12,6________8,5
BETA: 9,6 % [10 - 14,5]__________________________________________________ _______________11,3_________9,3
GAMMA: 18,3 % [12 - 20]__________________________________________________ _______________13,4________16,8
A/G RATIO: 1,44 [1 - 1,7]__________________________________________________ _______________1,52________1,71
PSA: 0,64 ng/ml [till 4]__________________________________________________ _________________0,39_________0,58
PSA FREE: 0,22__________________________________________________ ____________________________________0,24
PSA FREE/TTL: 0,40 [>0,15]__________________________________________________ _________________________0,41
PAP: 4,8 u/ltr [<=4,7]_ __________________________________________________ _____________________________5,1
IGG: 1447 mg/dl [681 - 1648]__________________________________________________ ________________________1455
IGA: 304 mg/dl [87 - 474]__________________________________________________ ___________________________321
IGD: 50 u/ml [till 100]__________________________________________________ _______________________________57
IGM: 99 mg/dl [48 - 312]__________________________________________________ ____________________________97
IGE (prist): 37,47 iu/ml [1,31 - 165,3]__________________________________________________ _________________39,77
INFECTIVITY & ALLERGOLOGY
HIV-Ab (1+2): 0,16 non-react u/cutoff [<0,9]__________________________________________________ __________0,18 non-react
HCV-Ab: 0,13 non-react u/cutoff [<0,9]__________________________________________________ _______________0,12 non-react
HBS-Ag: 0,37 non-react u/cutoff [<0,9]__________________________________________________ _______________0,39 non-react
HAV-Ab (IgT): >85 react miu/ml [<35]__________________________________________________ _________________>85 react
HAV-Ab (IgM): 0,08 non-react u/cutoff [<0,9]__________________________________________________ __________0,07 non-react
TAS: 110 ui/ml [0 - 166]__________________________________________________ ____________________________111
VDRL: negative [negative]__________________________________________________ ___________________________negative
CRP: 2 mg/dl [till 5]__________________________________________________ _________________________________2,1
REUMA TEST: <20 iu/ml [<20]__________________________________________________ ________________________<20
ESR: 5 mm/h [till 15]__________________________________________________ ________________________________5
LYSOZYME: 7 picog/ml [4 - 13]__________________________________________________ _______________________7
ACE: 9 mcg/l [6 - 12]__________________________________________________ _______________________________8,5
RAST Egg: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Yolk: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Crayfish: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Yeast: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Pork: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Fish Mix: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Olea Europaea Pollen: 0,1 [<0,3]
VITAMINS & ELECTROLYTES
VITAMIN A: 779,2 mcg/l [300 - 650]__________________________________________________ _________________692,1
VITAMIN E: 12,6 mg/ltr [5 - 20]__________________________________________________ ______________________100
VITAMIN C: 0,9 mg/ml [0,5 - 1,5]__________________________________________________ ____________________1,2
VITAMIN B12: 587 pg/ml [179 - 1162]__________________________________________________ _________________787
VITAMIN D3: 60 ng/ml [10 - 45]__________________________________________________ _____________________40
VITAMIN H: 82 ng/ml [70 - 100]__________________________________________________ _____________________90
VITAMIN K: 22 mcg/ml [15 - 30]__________________________________________________ _____________________26
VITAMIN PP: 0,7 mg/ml [0,5 - 0,8]__________________________________________________ ___________________0,7
SODIUM: 142 meq/l [136 - 145]__________________________________________________ ______________________139
POTASSIUM: 4,0 meq/l [3,5 - 5,1]__________________________________________________ ____________________4,4
CALCIUM: 9,0 mg/dl [8,5 - 10,1]__________________________________________________ ______________________9,1
MAGNESIUM: 2,0 mg/dl [1,8 - 2,4]__________________________________________________ ____________________2,2
PHOSPHORUS: 3,7 mg/dl [2,7 - 4,5]__________________________________________________ ___________________4,3
IRON: 148 mcg/dl [35 - 150]__________________________________________________ _________________________96
ZINC: 103 mcg/dl [80 - 125]__________________________________________________ _________________________132
CHLORINE: 103 meq/l [98 - 107]__________________________________________________ ______________________99
COPPER: 88 ku/l [76 - 153]__________________________________________________ __________________________88
HORMONAL
GASTRIN: 31 pg/ml [28 - 125]__________________________________________________ _______________________33
MELATONIN: 47 pg/ml [20 - 85]__________________________________________________ ______________________50
C-PEPTIDE: 1,2 ng/ml [0,78 – 1,89]__________________________________________________ ___________________1,25
INSULIN : 3,34 micru/ml [1,9 - 23]______________________3,6_________3,04_________________________________2,39
GLUCAGON: 55 pg/ml [40 - 130]__________________________________________________ _____________________55
ACTH: 20 pg/dl [till 50]__________________________________________________ _____________________________21
CORTISOL: 12,53 mg/dl [8,7 - 22,4]__________________________________________________ ______13,64_______18,7
FT3: 3,48 pg/ml [2,2 - 4,7]__________________________________________________ ______________4,82_______3,13
FT4: 1,26 ng/dl [0,8 - 2]__________________________________________________ ________________1,29_______1,16
MSH: 9,7 pmol/l [7,9 - 14,4]__________________________________________________ _________________________9,8
HTG: 7,65 ng/ml [0 - 35]______ __________________________________________________ _____________________6,61
TBG: 18 mcg/ml [15 - 32]__________________________________________________ ___________________________18,6
TSH: 2,92 micru/ml [0,34 - 5,6]__________________________________________________ __________3,88________3,92
FSH: 4,16 miu/ml [1,27 - 19,26]_______________________2,09________2,56_____________________1,42________3,9
LH: 3,80 miu/ml [1,24 - 8,62]_________________________2,19________2,58_____________________2,61________4,84
PREGNENOLONE: 155 ng/ml [10 - 230]__________________________________________________ ________________160
ANDROSTENEDIONE: 1,77 ng/ml [0,3 - 3,1]__________________________________________________ ____________1,79
ALDOSTERONE: 180 pg/ml [10 - 160]__________________________________________________ _________________184
DHEA: 7,3 ng/ml [2,5 - 9,5]__________________________________________________ _________________________6,2
DHEAS: 191 mcg/dl [106 - 464]_______________________209_________209,6________________________________221,6
DHT: 71 ng/ml [31 - 146]__________________________________________________ ___________________________70
TESTOSTERONE TTL: 3,86 ng/ml [1,75 - 7,81]___________0,72________0,61_________________________________6,29
TESTOSTERONE FREE: 11,7 pg/ml [8 - 47]______________5,2_________4,8_______________________9,6_________13,5
SHBG: 38 pg/ml [13 - 71]____________________________10__________<0,1_________________________________36
ESTRONE: 47 pg/ml [40 - 60]__________________________________________________ ________________________45
ESTRADIOL 17-BETA: 36 pg/ml [<20 - 47]__________________________________________________ __9__________30
ESTRIOL: 5,7 pg/ml [4,7 - 7,1]__________________________________________________ _______________________5,5
PROGESTERONE: 0,93 ng/ml [0,14 - 2,06]__________________________________________________ _____________0,87
PRL: 9,88 ng/ml [2,64 - 13,13]__________________________________________________ ___________12,78______13,05
IGF-1: 190 ng/ml [96 - 424]__________________________184_________163__________________________________392
HGH: 0,2 ng/ml [0 - 10]______ ______________________<0,1________<0,1__________________________________0,3
URINE
COLOUR: straw-coloured____________________________straw-coloured____________________________________straw-coloured
APPEARANCE: lightly opalescent [limpid]_______________lightly opalescent__________________________________limpid
PH REACTION: 5,5 [5 - 6,5]___________________________6________________________________________________5,5
SPECIFIC WEIGHT: 1020 [1015 - 1028]_________________1016_____________________________________________1018
PROTEINS: none mg/dl [0 - 10]________________________none_____________________________________________none
HEMOGLOBIN: none [none]___________________________present +_________________________________________none
GLUCOSE: none gr/litre [0 - 0,2]_______________________none_____________________________________________none
KETONE BODIES: none [none]_________________________none_____________________________________________none
UROBILINOGEN: none mg/dl [0 - 0,2]___________________none_____________________________________________none
BILIARY PIGMENTS: none [none]______________________none_____________________________________________none
NITRITE: none [none]_______________________________none_____________________________________________none
FAECES
SHAPE: solid [homogeneous]__________________________________________________ ________________________caprina
CONSISTENCY: compost [poltacea]__________________________________________________ __________________solid
COLOUR: brown [brown]__________________________________________________ ____________________________brown
ODOUR: sui generis [sui generis]__________________________________________________ _____________________sui generis
MUCUS: absent [absent]__________________________________________________ ___________________________absent
BLOOD: absent [absent]__________________________________________________ ____________________________absent
PH REACTION: 7__________________________________________________ ___________________________________7,4
PARASITOLOGICAL: negative [negative]__________________________________________________ _______________negative
SALMONELLA: negative [negative]__________________________________________________ ___________________negative
HELICOBACTER PYLORI: negative [negative]__________________________________________________ ___________negative
GIARDIASIS: negative [negative]__________________________________________________ ____________________negative
SPERM
VOLUME: 2,8 ml [>=2]__ __________________________________________________ ____2,5____________________________________2,6
PH: 8,1 [7,2 - 8]__________________________________________________ __________7,2_____________________________________7,3
APPEARANCE: own__________________________________________________ _________own____________________________________own
VISCOSITY: increased + [within limits]__________________________________________within limits_____________________________within limits
FLUIDIFICATION 45': finely irregular [physiologic]_________________________________physiologic______________________________physiologic
SPERMATOZOON CONCENTRATION: 89.000.000 /ml [>=20.000.000]_ _________________42.000.000______________________________85.000.000
EJACULATE SPERMATOZOON COUNT: 249.200.000 [>=40.000.000] __________________105.000.000_____________________________228.000.000
2ND HOUR MOTILITY: 60 % [>=50]______________________________________________45______________________________________57
TYPICAL MORPHOLOGIC SPERMATOZOON: 30 % [>=35]_____________________________28______________________________________35
ATYPICAL MORPHOLOGIC SPERMATOZOON: 70 %__________________________________72______________________________________71
LEUCOCYTE: 300.000 /ml [<=1.000.000]_________________________________________500.000_________________________________335.000
ERYTHROCYTE: absent [absent/rare]____________________________________________absent__________________________________absent
GERMINAL CELLS: rare [absent/rare]____________________________________________present_________________________________absent
EPITHELIAL CELLS: rare [absent/rare]___________________________________________absent__________________________________absent
SPERMAGGLUTINATION ZONES: rare [absent/rare]_________________________________absent__________________________________absent
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01-24-2011, 01:21 PM #513
do not need 4 weeks pct, imho.
assuming you know how to eat, train and rest, i would do:
week 1-8 oxandrolone 60 mg ed
week 1-8 mesterolone 100 mg ed
week 9-10 clomiphene citrate 100/50 ed
week 9-11 tamoxifen citrate 20/20/20 ed
hcg on hand as well as exemestane or anastrozole, you never know. and in the remote case you need hcg you must have an ai with.
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01-24-2011, 03:24 PM #514Junior Member
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Awesome gains.
So for HCG use you must have Arimedex?
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01-25-2011, 03:05 AM #515
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02-10-2011, 05:29 PM #516New Member
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About the test: I have 250mg/mL, so should I then be taking 2 shots of that? (500mg ew total)
(there are 10mL in the glass) (do you shoot it in the buttocks or thigh... or both?)
About the proviron : I got masteron instead, so I guess I will be shooting everyday, consider that it is 100mg/mL? Or is it enough to shoot it every two out of three days (like: Monday morning, Tuesday evening, and then Wednesday morning again? or does that really matter, i.e. what part of the day.)
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02-10-2011, 05:30 PM #517New Member
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I meant to say Thursday morning again...
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02-11-2011, 02:42 AM #518
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02-20-2011, 09:12 PM #519New Member
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thx...
I´m a little over a week into the cycle now, and after shooting the test yesterday (test shoot no. 02) I have been feeling an itch all over my body. Do you have any recommendations to get rid of it? (besides stop using the test) Or might the itch subside?
ps. I haven´t started using mesterolon. I was planning on starting that later this week.
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02-21-2011, 02:43 AM #520
"All over your body" has to do with Oxandrolone not with Testosterone .
Wait a few more days and it should subside but take Mesterolone ASAP.
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