ANAVAR Cycle (for those interested)

**BJJ** · 10-01-2009, 05:05 PM

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Steroids and anabolic steroids do have side effects. Do not be fooled into thinking there is a perfect steroid out there. That is not true. All steroids carry some type of side effects in one form or another. There is no such thing as a side effect free steroid. There are many side effects of using any medical treatment, including steroids. Here are some things an athlete might experience through the use of steroids:

• Your body wants to maintain a balance of hormones, so by undertaking a steroid regimen will send a signal to your body to shut down its own natural hormonal production. The levels of inhibition vary depending on the type of hormone ingested and most often, but not always, the endogenous hormone production resumes after the athlete stops his/her steroid regimen.

• The liver can be affected with orally ingested steroids. This means that studies have shown the levels of liver enzymes to increase after ingesting oral steroids which is an indication of liver activity. While some experts say that this is a sign of possible liver damage, other studies have shown that enzyme levels return to normal when the athlete stops taking the steroids.

• Steroids can affect levels of cholesterol. Athletes who use steroids show increased levels of LDL’s (the “bad” cholesterol) and decreased levels of HDL’s (the “good” cholesterol). This may also explain why anabolic steroids have been linked to cardiovascular problems.

• Anabolic steroids increase the levels of estrogen in the body which can lead to female-like breast tissue in males. However, there are anti-estrogen drugs that can help reduce this risk. Likewise, females who use anabolic steroids might begin to develop male characteristics such as hirsuitism or deepening of the voice, as well as clitoris enlargement.

• Athletes who use anabolic steroids might also experience increased acne; this is often related to the type and amount of steroids used.

• One of the most commonly suspected side effects of steroids use is increased aggressiveness. This is a real but rare side effect of steroids use; in fact most studies show that this increased aggressiveness or sometimes mania is more prevalent in people who were aggressive to begin with.

• There are other effects on internal organs (caused by the types and doses of steroids as well as the effects of the exercise/training regimen that goes along with trying to “bulk” or “cut”) that are often reversed at the cessation of steroids use. These include enlarged prostate, high blood pressure, kidney problems and changes in the immune system.

• Sterility is also a possible side effect as the hormones in the body are altered during use of anabolic steroids. This can often be reversed or remedied with proper hormone treatments.

• Some steroids will stop the growth of people who use them before they have finished growing. This is one of the few side effects that cannot be reversed through stopping a steroid regimen.
• Always remember, effects of steroids are very serious. Users do experience bad and negative side effects, so be warned! Do your own researches.

**BJJ** · 10-01-2009, 05:06 PM

BULKING (23/09/2009 - 17/11/2009)
Week 1-8 Oxandrolone [UG] 60 mg ed (ttl 2.940 mg) (Breakfast/Lunch)
Week 4-7 Mesterolone [PG] 50 mg ed (ttl 1.400 mg) (Breakfast/Dinner)
PCT (18/11/2009 - 28/12/2009)
Week 9-10 Clomiphene Citrate [PG] 50/50 mg ed (ttl 700 mg) (Breakfast)
Week 9-11 Tamoxifen Citrate [PG] 20/20/20 mg ed (ttl 420 mg) (Breakfast)
Week 11-12 Clenbuterol Hydrochloride [PG] 60/60/80/80/100/100/100/100/60/60 mcg ed (ttl 800 mcg) (Breakfast)
Week 12-13 Glutathione [PG] 600 mg ed (ttl 6.000 mg) (Morning)

IUPAC:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=439055

DIET:
BMR: 1.954 Kcal
Daily Diet (3.159 Kcal): 300 g of Protides, 55 g of Lipides, 366 g of Glucides
Protides/Glucides Relation: 0,81
Supplements: Multi Vitamins/Minerals, Vitamin C/Ester, EFA complex, ALA, LIV.52, CLA, ZMA, Chromium Picolinate, Acetyl L-Carnitine, Coenzyme Q10, Glutamine, BCAA, Glucosamine, Chondroitin Sulfate, Glycine, l-Arginine, Alpha-Ketoisocaproic Acid Calcium.

STRENGTH (8 reps):__________________________________________Da y 56
Squat (legs) 100 kg (220 lbs)_______________________________________130 kg (286 lbs) +30%
One Arm Dumbbell Row (back) 30 kg (66 lbs)___________________________44 kg (96,8 lbs) +46,66%
Bench Press with Dumbbells (chest) 30 kg (66 lbs) each_________________40 kg (88 lbs) +33,33%
Military Press with Dumbbells (shoulders) 24 kg (52,8 lbs) each____________34 kg (74,8 lbs) +41,66%
Dumbbells Curls (biceps - seated) 24 kg (52,8 lbs) each_________________30 kg (66 lbs) +25%
Dumbbells Curls (triceps - lying down) 18 kg (39,6 lbs) each______________24 kg (52,8 lbs) +33,33%

Strength Acquisition: 35% estimate
Formula: (current-previous)/previous*100 = (+) increase% or (-) decrease%

STATS:__________________________________________Day 16_____________________________Day 35_____________________________Day 56______________________________________Day 62 (1W PCT)
36 years old, 187 cm (6'2" ft)
Body Weight: 87,5 kg (192,5 lbs)_________________________94,5 kg (207,9 lbs) +8%_____________98,9 kg (217,6 lbs) +13,02%_________96,5 kg (212,3 lbs) +10,28%__________________94,7 kg (208,3 lbs) +8,23%
Body Fat: 12,9%______________________________________14% +8,52%_______________________14,6% +13,17%____________________14% +8,52%________________________________12,3% -3,14%
Body Water: 63,2%____________________________________63,6% +0,63%_____________________63,8% +0,94%_____________________64% +1,26%
Estimated Muscle Mass: 73,5 kg (161,7 lbs)________________77,3 kg (170,6 lbs) +5,17%__________80,3 kg (176,66 lbs) +9,25%_________78,9 kg (173,58 lbs) +7,34%__________________79,6 kg (175,1 lbs) +8,30%

Lean Body Mass Acquisition (LBM): 9,043 kg (19,89 lbs)
New Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR): 2.053 Kcal
Complete Cycle Log: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...97#post5002497

BLOOD WORK, URINE, FAECES & SPERM ANALYSES:
__________________________________________________18__________36__________51__________56__________98 (End of PCT)_____122 (3 Weeks ex PCT)

BLOOD
ERYTHROCYTES: 5,18 mil/mmc [4 - 5,5]__________________________________________________ ___5,2_________5,34
LEUCOCYTES: 7,3 mila/mmc [4 - 9]__________________________________________________ _______8,6_________7,5
- NE: 4,1 / 55,8 % [2 - 6 / 37 - 80]__________________________________________________ __________________4,1 / 54,8
- LY: 2,4 / 33 % [0,6 - 36 / 10 - 50]__________________________________________________ _________________2,7 / 35,6
- MO: 0,6 / 8,6 % [0 - 0,9 / 0 - 12]__________________________________________________ __________________0,5 / 7,1
- EO: 0,2 / 2,1 % [0 - 7 / 0 - 7]__________________________________________________ _____________________0,1 / 1,8
- BA: 0 / 0,5 % [0 - 0,2 / 0 - 2,5]__________________________________________________ ____________________0,1 / 0,7
HEMOGLOBIN: 14,9 gr/dl [14 - 18]__________________________________________________ ________13,6________15,6
HEMATOCRIT: 45,3 % [42 - 52]__________________________________________________ __________44,1________45,5
MCV: 87,5 femtol [82 - 98]__________________________________________________ ______________84,8________85,2
MCH: 28,8 picogr. [27 - 31]__________________________________________________ _____________26,2________29,2
MCHC: 32,9 gr/dl [32 - 36]__________________________________________________ ______________30,8________34,3
RDW: 13,5 % [11,6 - 16]__________________________________________________ ___________________________14
GRAN-NEUTROPHILS: 55,8 % [37 - 80]__________________________________________________ ____60,7________54,8
GRAN-EOSINOPHILS: 2,1 % [0 - 7]__________________________________________________ ________1,9_________1,8
GRAN-BASOPHILS: 0,5 % [0 - 2,5]__________________________________________________ ________0,7_________0,7
LYMPHOCYTES: 33,0 % [10 - 50]__________________________________________________ ________28,4________35,6
MONOCYTES: 8,6 % [0 - 12]__________________________________________________ _____________8,3_________7,1
PLATELETS: 163000 /mmc [150000 - 400000]________________________________________________336000_____164000
PCT: 0,12 % [0,1 - 1]__________________________________________________ ______________________________0,12
MPV: 7,3 fl [5 - 10]__________________________________________________ ________________________________7,2
PDW: 17,4 % [12 - 18]__________________________________________________ _____________________________18,5

HEART, KIDNEYS, LIVER, PANCREAS & PROSTATE
GLY***IA (basal): 90 mg/dl [70 - 110]__________________________________________________ ________________98
QUICK PROTHROMBIN TIME: 13,7 s_________________________________________________ ____________________13,1
PROTHROMBIN ACTIVITY: 69,6 % [70- 130]__________________________________________________ ___________86
INR: 1,18__________________________________________________ ________________________________________1,09
APTT: 27,5 s_________________________________________________ ______________________________________27,8
FIBRINOGEN: 185 mg/dl [180 - 350]__________________________________________________ __________________184,7
HOMOCYSTEINE: 10 mcmoli/l [6 - 15]__________________________________________________ _________________9,5
MYOGLOBIN: 26 ng/ml [10 - 46]__________________________________________________ ______________________38
AZOTEMIA: 49 mg/dl [15 - 40]________________________62__________57_______________________56_________53_________________52,8
CREATININE: 1,2 mg/dl [0,8 - 1,3]_____________________1,2__________1,2______________________1,3_________1,3
HYPERURI***IA: 5,9 mg/dl [3,5 - 7,2]__________________________________________________ ________________5,5
CHOLESTEROL TTL: 168 mg/dl [140 - 220]______________179_________205______________________232________194
CHOLESTEROL VLDL: 33 mg/dl [20 - 40]__________________________________________________ _______________30
CHOLESTEROL LDL: 105 mg/dl [<150]___________________157_________199_____________________202_________129_______________101
CHOLESTEROL HDL: 41 mg/dl [>40]_ ___________________13__________11_______________________13__________45
INDEX RISK HDL: 4,1 [till 5]___________________________13,76_______19,2_____________________17,8________4,3
APO A1: 185 mg/dl [115 - 220]__________________________________________________ ______________________190
APO B: 77 mg/dl [55 - 125]__________________________________________________ __________________________79
RATIO B/A1 APO: 0,41 [0,35 - 1]__________________________________________________ _____________________0,41
TRIGLYCERIDES: 95 mg/dl [<150]__________________________________________________ _____________________104
GAMMA (YGT): 28 u/ltr [15 - 85]______________________29__________28_______________________26__________40
ALKALINE PHOSPHATASE: 71 u/ltr [50 - 136]__________________________________________________ ___________72
BILIRUBIN TTL: 1,98 mg/dl [0,2 - 1]___________________0,83_________0,78_________________________________0,93______________1,54
BILIRUBIN DIRECT: 0,22 mg/dl [0,05 - 0,3]______________0,1__________0,1__________________________________0,1_______________0,53
BILIRUBIN INDIRECT: 1,76 mg/dl [till 0,7]________________0,73________0,68_________________________________0,83______________1,01
TRANSAMINASE GOT/AST: 21 u/ltr [15 - 37]_____________55__________50_______________________46_________28________________58
TRANSAMINASE GPT/ALT: 41 u/ltr [30 - 65]_____________86__________66_______________________95__________71________________77
FERRITIN: 124,5 ng/ml [24 - 336]__________________________________________________ ____________________124
LIPASE: 236 u/ltr [114 - 284]__________________________________________________ ________________________298______________216
AMYLASE: 62 u/ltr [25 - 115]_________________________55__________63_______________________64__________75_______________76
LDH: 160 u/ltr [100 - 190]__________________________________________________ __________________________155
CPK MB: 200 u/ltr [35 - 232]__________________________________________________ ________________________230
CK NAK: 150 u/l [till 167]__________________________________________________ ___________________________165
PROTIDES TTL: 7,4 gr/dl [6,4 - 8,2]__________________________________________________ _______7,8_________7,7
ALBUMIN: 59,1 % [51 - 63,3]__________________________________________________ ____________60,3________63,1
ALFA 1: 2,9 % [2,2 - 4,3]__________________________________________________ _______________2,4_________2,3
ALFA 2: 10,1 % [9,5 - 14]__________________________________________________ ______________12,6________8,5
BETA: 9,6 % [10 - 14,5]__________________________________________________ _______________11,3_________9,3
GAMMA: 18,3 % [12 - 20]__________________________________________________ _______________13,4________16,8
A/G RATIO: 1,44 [1 - 1,7]__________________________________________________ _______________1,52________1,71
PSA: 0,64 ng/ml [till 4]__________________________________________________ _________________0,39_________0,58
PSA FREE: 0,22__________________________________________________ ____________________________________0,24
PSA FREE/TTL: 0,40 [>0,15]__________________________________________________ _________________________0,41
PAP: 4,8 u/ltr [<=4,7]_ __________________________________________________ _____________________________5,1
IGG: 1447 mg/dl [681 - 1648]__________________________________________________ ________________________1455
IGA: 304 mg/dl [87 - 474]__________________________________________________ ___________________________321
IGD: 50 u/ml [till 100]__________________________________________________ _______________________________57
IGM: 99 mg/dl [48 - 312]__________________________________________________ ____________________________97
IGE (prist): 37,47 iu/ml [1,31 - 165,3]__________________________________________________ _________________39,77

INFECTIVITY & ALLERGOLOGY
HIV-Ab (1+2): 0,16 non-react u/cutoff [<0,9]__________________________________________________ __________0,18 non-react
HCV-Ab: 0,13 non-react u/cutoff [<0,9]__________________________________________________ _______________0,12 non-react
HBS-Ag: 0,37 non-react u/cutoff [<0,9]__________________________________________________ _______________0,39 non-react
HAV-Ab (IgT): >85 react miu/ml [<35]__________________________________________________ _________________>85 react
HAV-Ab (IgM): 0,08 non-react u/cutoff [<0,9]__________________________________________________ __________0,07 non-react
TAS: 110 ui/ml [0 - 166]__________________________________________________ ____________________________111
VDRL: negative [negative]__________________________________________________ ___________________________negative
CRP: 2 mg/dl [till 5]__________________________________________________ _________________________________2,1
REUMA TEST: <20 iu/ml [<20]__________________________________________________ ________________________<20
ESR: 5 mm/h [till 15]__________________________________________________ ________________________________5
LYSOZYME: 7 picog/ml [4 - 13]__________________________________________________ _______________________7
ACE: 9 mcg/l [6 - 12]__________________________________________________ _______________________________8,5
RAST Egg: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Yolk: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Crayfish: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Yeast: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Pork: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Fish Mix: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Olea Europaea Pollen: 0,1 [<0,3]

VITAMINS & ELECTROLYTES
VITAMIN A: 779,2 mcg/l [300 - 650]__________________________________________________ _________________692,1
VITAMIN E: 12,6 mg/ltr [5 - 20]__________________________________________________ ______________________100
VITAMIN C: 0,9 mg/ml [0,5 - 1,5]__________________________________________________ ____________________1,2
VITAMIN B12: 587 pg/ml [179 - 1162]__________________________________________________ _________________787
VITAMIN D3: 60 ng/ml [10 - 45]__________________________________________________ _____________________40
VITAMIN H: 82 ng/ml [70 - 100]__________________________________________________ _____________________90
VITAMIN K: 22 mcg/ml [15 - 30]__________________________________________________ _____________________26
VITAMIN PP: 0,7 mg/ml [0,5 - 0,8]__________________________________________________ ___________________0,7
SODIUM: 142 meq/l [136 - 145]__________________________________________________ ______________________139
POTASSIUM: 4,0 meq/l [3,5 - 5,1]__________________________________________________ ____________________4,4
CALCIUM: 9,0 mg/dl [8,5 - 10,1]__________________________________________________ ______________________9,1
MAGNESIUM: 2,0 mg/dl [1,8 - 2,4]__________________________________________________ ____________________2,2
PHOSPHORUS: 3,7 mg/dl [2,7 - 4,5]__________________________________________________ ___________________4,3
IRON: 148 mcg/dl [35 - 150]__________________________________________________ _________________________96
ZINC: 103 mcg/dl [80 - 125]__________________________________________________ _________________________132
CHLORINE: 103 meq/l [98 - 107]__________________________________________________ ______________________99
COPPER: 88 ku/l [76 - 153]__________________________________________________ __________________________88

HORMONAL
GASTRIN: 31 pg/ml [28 - 125]__________________________________________________ _______________________33
MELATONIN: 47 pg/ml [20 - 85]__________________________________________________ ______________________50
C-PEPTIDE: 1,2 ng/ml [0,78 – 1,89]__________________________________________________ ___________________1,25
INSULIN: 3,34 micru/ml [1,9 - 23]______________________3,6_________3,04_________________________________2,39
GLUCAGON: 55 pg/ml [40 - 130]__________________________________________________ _____________________55
ACTH: 20 pg/dl [till 50]__________________________________________________ _____________________________21
CORTISOL: 12,53 mg/dl [8,7 - 22,4]__________________________________________________ ______13,64_______18,7
FT3: 3,48 pg/ml [2,2 - 4,7]__________________________________________________ ______________4,82_______3,13
FT4: 1,26 ng/dl [0,8 - 2]__________________________________________________ ________________1,29_______1,16
MSH: 9,7 pmol/l [7,9 - 14,4]__________________________________________________ _________________________9,8
HTG: 7,65 ng/ml [0 - 35]______ __________________________________________________ _____________________6,61
TBG: 18 mcg/ml [15 - 32]__________________________________________________ ___________________________18,6
TSH: 2,92 micru/ml [0,34 - 5,6]__________________________________________________ __________3,88________3,92
FSH: 4,16 miu/ml [1,27 - 19,26]_______________________2,09________2,56_____________________1,42________3,9
LH: 3,80 miu/ml [1,24 - 8,62]_________________________2,19________2,58_____________________2,61________4,84
PREGNENOLONE: 155 ng/ml [10 - 230]__________________________________________________ ________________160
ANDROSTENEDIONE: 1,77 ng/ml [0,3 - 3,1]__________________________________________________ ____________1,79
ALDOSTERONE: 180 pg/ml [10 - 160]__________________________________________________ _________________184
DHEA: 7,3 ng/ml [2,5 - 9,5]__________________________________________________ _________________________6,2
DHEAS: 191 mcg/dl [106 - 464]_______________________209_________209,6________________________________221,6
DHT: 71 ng/ml [31 - 146]__________________________________________________ ___________________________70
TESTOSTERONE TTL: 3,86 ng/ml [1,75 - 7,81]___________0,72________0,61_________________________________6,29
TESTOSTERONE FREE: 11,7 pg/ml [8 - 47]______________5,2_________4,8_______________________9,6_________13,5
SHBG: 38 pg/ml [13 - 71]____________________________10__________<0,1_________________________________36
ESTRONE: 47 pg/ml [40 - 60]__________________________________________________ ________________________45
ESTRADIOL 17-BETA: 36 pg/ml [<20 - 47]__________________________________________________ __9__________30
ESTRIOL: 5,7 pg/ml [4,7 - 7,1]__________________________________________________ _______________________5,5
PROGESTERONE: 0,93 ng/ml [0,14 - 2,06]__________________________________________________ _____________0,87
PRL: 9,88 ng/ml [2,64 - 13,13]__________________________________________________ ___________12,78______13,05
IGF-1: 190 ng/ml [96 - 424]__________________________184_________163__________________________________392
HGH: 0,2 ng/ml [0 - 10]______ ______________________<0,1________<0,1__________________________________0,3

URINE
COLOUR: straw-coloured____________________________straw-coloured____________________________________straw-coloured
APPEARANCE: lightly opalescent [limpid]_______________lightly opalescent__________________________________limpid
PH REACTION: 5,5 [5 - 6,5]___________________________6________________________________________________5,5
SPECIFIC WEIGHT: 1020 [1015 - 1028]_________________1016_____________________________________________1018
PROTEINS: none mg/dl [0 - 10]________________________none_____________________________________________none
HEMOGLOBIN: none [none]___________________________present +_________________________________________none
GLUCOSE: none gr/litre [0 - 0,2]_______________________none_____________________________________________none
KETONE BODIES: none [none]_________________________none_____________________________________________none
UROBILINOGEN: none mg/dl [0 - 0,2]___________________none_____________________________________________none
BILIARY PIGMENTS: none [none]______________________none_____________________________________________none
NITRITE: none [none]_______________________________none_____________________________________________none

FAECES
SHAPE: solid [homogeneous]__________________________________________________ ________________________caprina
CONSISTENCY: compost [poltacea]__________________________________________________ __________________solid
COLOUR: brown [brown]__________________________________________________ ____________________________brown
ODOUR: sui generis [sui generis]__________________________________________________ _____________________sui generis
MUCUS: absent [absent]__________________________________________________ ___________________________absent
BLOOD: absent [absent]__________________________________________________ ____________________________absent
PH REACTION: 7__________________________________________________ ___________________________________7,4
PARASITOLOGICAL: negative [negative]__________________________________________________ _______________negative
SALMONELLA: negative [negative]__________________________________________________ ___________________negative
HELICOBACTER PYLORI: negative [negative]__________________________________________________ ___________negative
GIARDIASIS: negative [negative]__________________________________________________ ____________________negative

SPERM
VOLUME: 2,8 ml [>=2]__ __________________________________________________ ____2,5______________________________________2,6
PH: 8,1 [7,2 - 8]__________________________________________________ __________7,2_______________________________________7,3
APPEARANCE: own__________________________________________________ _________own______________________________________own
VISCOSITY: increased + [within limits]__________________________________________within limits_______________________________within limits
FLUIDIFICATION 45': finely irregular [physiologic]_________________________________physiologic________________________________physiologic
SPERMATOZOON CONCENTRATION: 89.000.000 /ml [>=20.000.000]_ _________________42.000.000________________________________85.000.000
EJACULATE SPERMATOZOON COUNT: 249.200.000 [>=40.000.000] __________________105.000.000_______________________________228.000.000
2ND HOUR MOTILITY: 60 % [>=50]______________________________________________45________________________________________57
TYPICAL MORPHOLOGIC SPERMATOZOON: 30 % [>=35]_____________________________28________________________________________35
ATYPICAL MORPHOLOGIC SPERMATOZOON: 70 %__________________________________72________________________________________71
LEUCOCYTE: 300.000 /ml [<=1.000.000]_________________________________________500.000___________________________________335.000
ERYTHROCYTE: absent [absent/rare]____________________________________________absent____________________________________absent
GERMINAL CELLS: rare [absent/rare]____________________________________________present___________________________________absent
EPITHELIAL CELLS: rare [absent/rare]___________________________________________absent____________________________________absent
SPERMAGGLUTINATION ZONES: rare [absent/rare]_________________________________absent____________________________________absent

[CENTER]

by "Whole Body Hologic QDR-4500W DXA Fan-Beam Scanner"

**thai-lan** · 10-04-2009, 03:38 AM

Originally Posted by BJJ;4887463[B

Cycle:[/B]
BULKING
Week 1-8 Oxandrolone 60 mg ed (Ttl 3.360 mg) (Breakfast/Lunch)
Week 6-8 Mesterolone 25 mg ed (Ttl 525 mg) (Breakfast)
PCT
Week 9-10 Clomiphene 50 mg ed (Ttl 700 mg) (Breakfast)

alright BJ Joe , u claimed that uve been up to 200lbs all natural , why bother running another cycle just to get up to 200??

var has 8 hours of half life so ur meant to split it up 4doses if u want it to be in your blood stream at all times

i believe even tho var is mild, ur meant to run a better pct than CLOMID only...

**BJJ** · 10-04-2009, 05:27 AM

Originally Posted by thai-lan

alright BJ Joe ?, u claimed that uve been up to 200lbs all natural , why bother running another cycle just to get up to 200?? because i want to get to 200 with less than 15% bf i used to have. i could do that too naturally but i have no time to dedicate so deeply.

var has 8 hours of half life so ur meant to split it up 4doses if u want it to be in your blood stream at all times i don't want that, otherwise i would have run a long ester

i believe even tho var is mild, ur meant to run a better pct than CLOMID only... since at night my sytem is "clean", i think 2w of clomid are more than enough.

bold

**ythrashin** · 10-06-2009, 03:06 AM

Originally Posted by BJJ

i believe even tho var is mild, ur meant to run a better pct than CLOMID only... since at night my sytem is "clean", i think 2w of clomid are more than enough.

At night your system is hardly "clean". Say you take your 30mg var at lunch 12pm...and the "Half-life" is 9 hours. At bout 9 pm you'll have roughly 15-20mg (maybe a bit more cause of your morning dose though)still active in your body. Then at 6am the next morning you'd still have 7-10mg active in your body...

**BJJ** · 10-06-2009, 04:34 AM

[QUOTE=ythrashin;4894373]At night your system is hardly "clean". Say you take your 30mg var at lunch 12pm...and the "Half-life" is 9 hours. At bout 9 pm you'll have roughly 15-20mg (maybe a bit more cause of your morning dose though)still active in your body. Then at 6am the next morning you'd still have 7-10mg active in your body... system clean means to me with less mgs in my blood stream at night. there is a specific reason for that, in my case.

Summing up all of your posts, you are basically saying that you rely mostly on other's cycles because worked for the majority of the people in a way, so it should work also for you the same.
Your approach may fail since the fact that a cycle worked for 100 people in way, it does not mean it will for you the same.

Everyone's genetics is different so it differs the way our organism responds to the same drug, although we are all human beings.

My approach is instead individual systematic, taking into account my past medical records as well as the present ones plus a bunch of information related to the average of medical implications in using aas, referred by others.
I am constantly monitoring any changes and taking blood analyses every two weeks in order to lead the cycle in the proper direction by checking out the hormonal response I am receiving as the cycle goes forward.

Again, before saying my cycle is wrong, before saying my endo is not useful, before saying... all the rest, document yourself on the reasons why a person is acting in such a way, then you may express your ideas without being bad-mannered.

Regarding my endocrinologist, he is 57 years old and being a medical officer since he graduated. He also did two cycles in his life and working out since 25 years.
So, how comes your arrogance, rudeness, prosopopoeia, saying "he is not useful" or "***ck you endo".
What kind of person are you, what kind of people hang around here, since you are not the only one, unfortunately?
You lack respect toward a person who you do not know and surely know much more than you do regarding medicine.

Then, differently from you I do not need to "appear" who I am not and when writing or speaking I use my knowledge.
If not, I refer to the articles I took the information directly from.
Your explanation, totally unneeded to me, I already found it on this board:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=309685

The same article where you "copied & pasted".

**BJJ** · 07-22-2010, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by BJJ

STATS:__________________________________________Day 16_____________________________Day 35_____________________________Day 56______________________________________Day 62 (1W PCT)
36 years old, 187 cm (6'2" ft)
Body Weight: 87,5 kg (192,5 lbs)_________________________94,5 kg (207,9 lbs) +8%_____________98,9 kg (217,6 lbs) +13,02%_________96,5 kg (212,3 lbs) +10,28%__________________94,7 kg (208,3 lbs) +8,23%
Body Fat: 12,9%______________________________________14% +8,52%_______________________14,6% +13,17%____________________14% +8,52%________________________________12,3% -3,14%
Body Water: 63,2%____________________________________63,6% +0,63%_____________________63,8% +0,94%_____________________64% +1,26%
Estimated Muscle Mass: 73,5 kg (161,7 lbs)________________77,3 kg (170,6 lbs) +5,17%__________80,3 kg (176,66 lbs) +9,25%_________78,9 kg (173,58 lbs) +7,34%__________________79,6 kg (175,1 lbs) +8,30%
Training Experience: since 1990

Lean Body Mass Acquisition (LBM): 9,043 kg (19,89 lbs)
New Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR): 2.053 Kcal
Complete Cycle Log (post #393): http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...403234&page=10

Strength (8 reps by myself):___________________________________Day 56
Squat (legs) 100 kg (220 lbs)________________________________________130 kg (286 lbs) +30%
One Arm Dumbbell Row (back) 30 kg (66 lbs)____________________________44 kg (96,8 lbs) +46,66%
Bench Press with Dumbbells (chest) 30 kg (66 lbs) each__________________40 kg (88 lbs) +33,33%
Military Press with Dumbbells (shoulders) 24 kg (52,8 lbs) each_____________34 kg (74,8 lbs) +41,66%
Dumbbells Curls (biceps - seated) 24 kg (52,8 lbs) each__________________30 kg (66 lbs) +25%
Dumbbells Curls (triceps - lying down) 18 kg (39,6 lbs) each_______________24 kg (52,8 lbs) +33,33%
Strength Acquisition: 35% estimate

FORMULA: (current-previous)/previous*100 = (+) increase% or (-) decrease%

CYCLE:
BULKING (09/23/2009 - 11/17/2009)
Week 1-8 Oxandrolone (Oxanabolic) [UG] 60 mg ed (ttl 2.940 mg) (Breakfast/Lunch) [half life 9 hours] {detection time 3 weeks}
Week 4-7 Mesterolone (Proviron) [HG] 50 mg ed (ttl 1.400 mg) (Breakfast/Dinner) [half life 12 hours] {detection time 5-6 weeks}
PCT (18/11/2009 - 12/28/2009)
Week 9-10 Clomiphene Citrate (Clomid) [HG] 50/50 mg ed (ttl 700 mg) (Breakfast) [half life 5-7 days]
Week 9-11 Tamoxifen Citrate (Nolvadex) [HG] 20/20/20 mg ed (ttl 420 mg) (Breakfast) [half life 7 days]
Week 11-12 Clenbuterol Hydrochloride [HG] 60/60/80/80/100/100/100/100/60/60 mcg ed (ttl 800 mcg) (Breakfast) [half life 36-39 hours] {detection time 4-5 days}
Week 12-13 Glutathione (GSH) [HG] 600 mg ed (ttl 6.000 mg) (Morning)

DIET:
BMR (Basal Metabolic Rate): 1.954 Kcal
Daily Diet (3.159 Kcal) consists in:
300 g of Protides (11,3 oz)
55 g of Lipides (2,82 oz)
366 g of Glucides (14,1 oz)

Supplements consist in:
Multi Vitamins/Minerals, Vitamin C/Ester, EFA complex, ALA, LIV.52, CLA, ZMA, Chromium Picolinate, Acetyl L-Carnitine, Coenzyme Q10, Glutamine, BCAA, Glucosamine, Chondroitin Sulfate, Glycine, l-Arginine, Alpha-Ketoisocaproic Acid Calcium.

BLOOD, URINE, FAECES & SPERM ANALYSES:
__________________________________________________18__________36__________51__________56__________98 (4W PCT)_____122 (8W PCT)

BLOOD
ERYTHROCYTES: 5,18 mil/mmc [4 - 5,5]__________________________________________________ ___5,2_________5,34
LEUCOCYTES: 7,3 mila/mmc [4 - 9]__________________________________________________ _______8,6_________7,5
- NE: 4,1 / 55,8 % [2 - 6 / 37 - 80]__________________________________________________ __________________4,1 / 54,8
- LY: 2,4 / 33 % [0,6 - 36 / 10 - 50]__________________________________________________ _________________2,7 / 35,6
- MO: 0,6 / 8,6 % [0 - 0,9 / 0 - 12]__________________________________________________ __________________0,5 / 7,1
- EO: 0,2 / 2,1 % [0 - 7 / 0 - 7]__________________________________________________ _____________________0,1 / 1,8
- BA: 0 / 0,5 % [0 - 0,2 / 0 - 2,5]__________________________________________________ ____________________0,1 / 0,7
HEMOGLOBIN: 14,9 gr/dl [14 - 18]__________________________________________________ ________13,6________15,6
HEMATOCRIT: 45,3 % [42 - 52]__________________________________________________ __________44,1________45,5
MCV: 87,5 femtol [82 - 98]__________________________________________________ ______________84,8________85,2
MCH: 28,8 picogr. [27 - 31]__________________________________________________ _____________26,2________29,2
MCHC: 32,9 gr/dl [32 - 36]__________________________________________________ ______________30,8________34,3
RDW: 13,5 % [11,6 - 16]__________________________________________________ ___________________________14
GRAN-NEUTROPHILS: 55,8 % [37 -80]__________________________________________________ _____60,7________54,8
GRAN-EOSINOPHILS: 2,1 % [0,0 - 7]__________________________________________________ ______1,9_________1,8
GRAN-BASOPHILS: 0,5 % [0,0 - 2,5]__________________________________________________ ______0,7_________0,7
LYMPHOCYTES: 33,0 % [10 - 50]__________________________________________________ ________28,4________35,6
MONOCYTES: 8,6 % [0,0 - 12]__________________________________________________ ___________8,3_________7,1
PLATELETS: 163000 /mmc [150000 - 400000]________________________________________________336000_____164000
PCT: 0,12 % [0,1 - 1]__________________________________________________ ______________________________0,12
MPV: 7,3 fl [5 - 10]__________________________________________________ ________________________________7,2
PDW: 17,4 % [12 - 18]__________________________________________________ _____________________________18,5

HEART, KIDNEYS, LIVER, PANCREAS & PROSTATE
GLYCEMIA (basal): 90 mg/dl [70 - 110]__________________________________________________ ________________98

QUICK PROTHROMBIN TIME: 13,7 s_________________________________________________ ____________________13,1
PROTHROMBIN ACTIVITY: 69,6 % [70-130]__________________________________________________ ____________86
INR: 1,18__________________________________________________ ________________________________________1,09
APTT: 27,5 s_________________________________________________ ______________________________________27,8
FIBRINOGEN: 185 mg/dl [180 - 350]__________________________________________________ __________________184,7
HOMOCYSTEINE: 10 mcmoli/l [6 - 15]__________________________________________________ _________________9,5
MYOGLOBIN: 26 ng/ml [10 - 46]__________________________________________________ ______________________38

AZOTEMIA: 49 mg/dl [15-40]__________________________62__________57______________________56__________53______________52,8
CREATININE: 1,2 mg/dl [0,8 - 1,3]_____________________1,2__________1,2______________________1,3_________1,3
HYPERURICEMIA: 5,9 mg/dl [3,5 - 7,2]__________________________________________________ ________________5,5

CHOLESTEROL TTL: 168 mg/dl [140 - 220]______________179_________205______________________232________194
CHOLESTEROL VLDL: 33 mg/dl [20 - 40]__________________________________________________ _______________30
CHOLESTEROL LDL: 105 mg/dl [< 150]__________________157_________199_____________________202_________129_____________101
CHOLESTEROL HDL: 41 mg/dl [> 40]____________________13__________11_______________________13__________45
INDEX RISK HDL: 4,1 [till 5]___________________________13,76_______19,2_____________________17,8________4,3
APO A1: 185 mg/dl [115 - 220]__________________________________________________ ______________________190
APO B: 77 mg/dl [55 - 125]__________________________________________________ __________________________79
RATIO B/A1 APO: 0,41 [0,35 - 1]__________________________________________________ _____________________0,41
TRIGLYCERIDES: 95 mg/dl [< 150]__________________________________________________ ____________________104

GAMMA (YGT): 28 u/ltr [15 - 85]______________________29__________28_______________________26__________40
ALKALINE PHOSPHATASE: 71 u/ltr [50 - 136]__________________________________________________ ___________72
BILIRUBIN TTL: 1,98 mg/dl [0,2-1]_____________________0,83________0,78_________________________________0,93____________1,54
BILIRUBIN DIRECT: 0,22 mg/dl [0,05 - 0,3]______________0,1__________0,1__________________________________0,1_____________0,53
BILIRUBIN INDIRECT: 1,76 mg/dl [till 0,7]________________0,73________0,68_________________________________0,83____________1,01
TRANSAMINASE GOT/AST: 21 u/ltr [15 - 37]_____________55__________50_______________________46_________28______________58
TRANSAMINASE GPT/ALT: 41 u/ltr [30 - 65]_____________86__________66_______________________95__________71______________77
FERRITIN: 124,5 ng/ml [24 - 336]__________________________________________________ ____________________124

LIPASE: 236 u/ltr [114 - 284]__________________________________________________ ________________________298____________216
AMYLASE: 62 u/ltr [25 - 115]_________________________55__________63_______________________64__________75_____________76

LDH: 160 u/ltr [100 - 190]__________________________________________________ __________________________155
CPK MB: 200 u/ltr [35 - 232]__________________________________________________ ________________________230
CK NAK: 150 u/l [till 167]__________________________________________________ ___________________________165
PROTIDES TTL: 7,4 gr/dl [6,4 - 8,2]__________________________________________________ _______7,8_________7,7
ALBUMIN: 59,1 % [51 - 63,3]__________________________________________________ ____________60,3________63,1
ALFA 1: 2,9 % [2,2 - 4,3]__________________________________________________ _______________2,4_________2,3
ALFA 2: 10,1 % [9,5 - 14]__________________________________________________ ______________12,6________8,5
BETA: 9,6 % [10-14,5]__________________________________________________ _________________11,3________9,3
GAMMA: 18,3 % [12 - 20]__________________________________________________ _______________13,4________16,8
A/G RATIO: 1,44 [1,0 - 1,7]__________________________________________________ _____________1,52________1,71

PSA: 0,64 ng/ml [till 4]__________________________________________________ _________________0,39_________0,58
PSA FREE: 0,22__________________________________________________ ____________________________________0,24
PSA FREE/TTL: 0,40 [>0,15]__________________________________________________ _________________________0,41
PAP: 4,8 u/ltr [<= 4,7]__________________________________________________ ______________________________5,1

IGG: 1447 mg/dl [681 - 1648]__________________________________________________ ________________________1455
IGA: 304 mg/dl [87 - 474]__________________________________________________ ___________________________321
IGD: 50 u/ml [till 100]__________________________________________________ _______________________________57
IGM: 99 mg/dl [48 - 312]__________________________________________________ ____________________________97
IGE (prist): 37,47 iu/ml [1,31 - 165,3]__________________________________________________ _________________39,77

INFECTIVITY & ALLERGOLOGY
HIV-Ab (1+2): 0,16 non-react u/cutoff [<0,9]__________________________________________________ __________0,18 non-react
HCV-Ab: 0,13 non-react u/cutoff [<0,9]__________________________________________________ _______________0,12 non-react
HBS-Ag: 0,37 non-react u/cutoff [<0,9]__________________________________________________ _______________0,39 non-react
HAV-Ab (IgT): >85 react miu/ml [<35]__________________________________________________ _________________>85 react
HAV-Ab (IgM): 0,08 non-react u/cutoff [<0,9]__________________________________________________ __________0,07 non-react
TAS: 110 ui/ml [0 - 166]__________________________________________________ ____________________________111
VDRL: negative [negative]__________________________________________________ ___________________________negative
CRP: 2 mg/dl [till 5]__________________________________________________ _________________________________2,1
REUMA TEST: <20 iu/ml [<20]__________________________________________________ ________________________<20
ESR: 5 mm/h [till 15]__________________________________________________ ________________________________5
LYSOZYME: 7 picog/ml [4 - 13]__________________________________________________ _______________________7
ACE: 9 mcg/l [6 - 12]__________________________________________________ _______________________________8,5

RAST Egg: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Yolk: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Crayfish: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Yeast: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Pork: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Fish Mix: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Olea Europaea Pollen: 0,1 [<0,3]

VITAMINS & ELECTROLYTES
VITAMIN A: 779,2 mcg/l [300-650]__________________________________________________ ___________________692,1
VITAMIN E: 12,6 mg/ltr [5 - 20]__________________________________________________ ______________________100
VITAMIN C: 0,9 mg/ml [0,5-1,5]__________________________________________________ ______________________1,2
VITAMIN B12: 587 pg/ml [179 - 1162]__________________________________________________ _________________787
VITAMIN D3: 60 ng/ml [10-45]__________________________________________________ _______________________40
VITAMIN H: 82 ng/ml [70-100]__________________________________________________ _______________________90
VITAMIN K: 22 mcg/ml [15-30]__________________________________________________ _______________________26
VITAMIN PP: 0,7 mg/ml [0,5-0,8]__________________________________________________ _____________________0,7

SODIUM: 142 meq/l [136 - 145]__________________________________________________ ______________________139
POTASSIUM: 4,0 meq/l [3,5 - 5,1]__________________________________________________ ____________________4,4
CALCIUM: 9,0 mg/dl [8,5 - 10,1]__________________________________________________ ______________________9,1
MAGNESIUM: 2,0 mg/dl [1,8 - 2,4]__________________________________________________ ____________________2,2
PHOSPHORUS: 3,7 mg/dl [2,7 - 4,5]__________________________________________________ ___________________4,3
IRON: 148 mcg/dl [35 - 150]__________________________________________________ _________________________96
ZINC: 103 mcg/dl [80 - 125]__________________________________________________ _________________________132
CHLORINE: 103 meq/l [98 - 107]__________________________________________________ ______________________99
COPPER: 88 ku/l [76 - 153]__________________________________________________ __________________________88

HORMONAL
GASTRIN: 31 pg/ml [28-125]__________________________________________________ _________________________33
MELATONIN: 47 pg/ml [20 - 85]__________________________________________________ ______________________50
C-PEPTIDE: 1,2 ng/ml [0,78 – 1,89]__________________________________________________ ___________________1,25
INSULIN: 3,34 micru/ml [1,9 - 23]______________________3,6_________3,04_________________________________2,39
GLUCAGON: 55 pg/ml [40-130]__________________________________________________ _______________________55
ACTH: 20 pg/dl [till 50]__________________________________________________ _____________________________21
CORTISOL: 12,53 mg/dl [8,7 - 22,4]__________________________________________________ ______13,64_______18,7
FT3: 3,48 pg/ml [2,2 - 4,7]__________________________________________________ ______________4,82_______3,13
FT4: 1,26 ng/dl [0,8 - 2]__________________________________________________ ________________1,29_______1,16
MSH: 9,7 pmol/l [7,9 - 14,4]__________________________________________________ _________________________9,8
HTG: 7,65 ng/ml [0,0 - 35]__________________________________________________ __________________________6,61
TBG: 18 mcg/ml [15 - 32]__________________________________________________ ___________________________18,6
TSH: 2,92 micru/ml [0,34 - 5,6]__________________________________________________ __________3,88________3,92
FSH: 4,16 miu/ml [1,27 - 19,26]_______________________2,09________2,56_____________________1,42________3,9
LH: 3,80 miu/ml [1,24 - 8,62]_________________________2,19________2,58_____________________2,61________4,84
PREGNENOLONE: 155 ng/ml [10 - 230]__________________________________________________ ________________160
ANDROSTENEDIONE: 1,77 ng/ml [0,3 - 3,1]__________________________________________________ ____________1,79
ALDOSTERONE: 180 pg/ml [10 - 160]__________________________________________________ _________________184
DHEA: 7,3 ng/ml [2,5 - 9,5]__________________________________________________ _________________________6,2
DHEAS: 191 mcg/dl [106 - 464]_______________________209_________209,6________________________________221,6
DHT: 71 ng/ml [31 - 146]__________________________________________________ ___________________________70
TESTOSTERONE TTL: 3,86 ng/ml [1,75 - 7,81]___________0,72________0,61_________________________________6,29
TESTOSTERONE FREE: 11,7 pg/ml [8 - 47]______________5,2_________4,8_______________________9,6_________13,5
SHBG: 38 pg/ml [13 - 71]____________________________10__________<0,1_________________________________36
ESTRONE: 47 pg/ml [40 - 60]__________________________________________________ ________________________45
ESTRADIOL 17-BETA: 36 pg/ml [<20 - 47]__________________________________________________ __9__________30
ESTRIOL: 5,7 pg/ml [4,7 - 7,1]__________________________________________________ _______________________5,5
PROGESTERONE: 0,93 ng/ml [0,14 - 2,06]__________________________________________________ _____________0,87
PRL: 9,88 ng/ml [2,64 - 13,13]__________________________________________________ ___________12,78______13,05
IGF-1: 190 ng/ml [96 - 424]__________________________184_________163__________________________________392
HGH: 0,2 ng/ml [0,0 - 10]____________________________<0,1________<0,1_________________________________0,3

URINE
COLOUR: straw-coloured____________________________straw-coloured____________________________________straw-coloured
APPEARANCE: lightly opalescent [limpid]_______________lightly opalescent__________________________________limpid
PH REACTION: 5,5 [5 - 6,5]___________________________6________________________________________________5,5
SPECIFIC WEIGHT: 1020 [1015 - 1028]_________________1016_____________________________________________1018
PROTEINS: none mg/dl [0,0 - 10]______________________none_____________________________________________none
HEMOGLOBIN: none [none]___________________________present +_________________________________________none
GLUCOSE: none gr/litre [0,0 - 0,2]_____________________none_____________________________________________none
KETONE BODIES: none [none]_________________________none_____________________________________________none
UROBILINOGEN: none mg/dl [0,0 - 0,2]_________________none_____________________________________________none
BILIARY PIGMENTS: none [none]______________________none_____________________________________________none
NITRITE: none [none]_______________________________none_____________________________________________none

FAECES
SHAPE: solid [homogeneous]__________________________________________________ ________________________caprina
CONSISTENCY: compost [poltacea]__________________________________________________ __________________solid
COLOUR: brown [brown]__________________________________________________ ____________________________brown
ODOUR: sui generis [sui generis]__________________________________________________ _____________________sui generis
MUCUS: absent [absent]__________________________________________________ ___________________________absent
BLOOD: absent [absent]__________________________________________________ ____________________________absent
PH REACTION: 7__________________________________________________ ___________________________________7,4
PARASITOLOGICAL: negative [negative]__________________________________________________ _______________negative
SALMONELLA: negative [negative]__________________________________________________ ___________________negative
HELICOBACTER PYLORI: negative [negative]__________________________________________________ ___________negative
GIARDIASIS: negative [negative]__________________________________________________ ____________________negative

SPERM
VOLUME: 2,8 ml [>= 2]__________________________________________________ ______2,5____________________________________2,6
PH: 8,1 [7,2-8]__________________________________________________ ____________7,2_____________________________________7,3
APPEARANCE: own__________________________________________________ _________own____________________________________own
VISCOSITY: increased + [within limits]__________________________________________within limits_____________________________within limits
FLUIDIFICATION 45': finely irregular [physiologic]_________________________________physiologic______________________________physiologic
SPERMATOZOON CONCENTRATION: 89.000.000 /ml [>= 20.000.000]__________________42.000.000______________________________85.000.000
EJACULATE SPERMATOZOON COUNT: 249.200.000 [>= 40.000.000]__________________105.000.000_____________________________228.000.000
2ND HOUR MOTILITY: 60 % [>= 50 %]___________________________________________45______________________________________57
TYPICAL MORPHOLOGIC SPERMATOZOON: 30 % [>= 35 %]__________________________28______________________________________35
ATYPICAL MORPHOLOGIC SPERMATOZOON: 70 %__________________________________72______________________________________71
LEUCOCYTE: 300.000 /ml [<= 1.000.000]________________________________________500.000_________________________________335.000
ERYTHROCYTE: absent [absent/rare]____________________________________________absent__________________________________absent
GERMINAL CELLS: rare [absent/rare]____________________________________________present_________________________________absent
EPITHELIAL CELLS: rare [absent/rare]___________________________________________absent__________________________________absent
SPERMAGGLUTINATION ZONES: rare [absent/rare]_________________________________absent__________________________________absent

by "Whole Body Hologic QDR-4500W DXA Fan-Beam Scanner"

Backup

**BJJ** · 08-16-2010, 02:22 AM

Originally Posted by BJJ

CYCLE:
BULKING (23/09/2009 - 17/11/2009)
Week 1-8 Oxandrolone [UG] 60 mg ed (ttl 2.940 mg) (Breakfast/Lunch)
Week 4-7 Mesterolone [PG] 50 mg ed (ttl 1.400 mg) (Breakfast/Dinner)
PCT (18/11/2009 - 28/12/2009)
Week 9-10 Clomiphene Citrate [PG] 50/50 mg ed (ttl 700 mg) (Breakfast)
Week 9-11 Tamoxifen Citrate [PG] 20/20/20 mg ed (ttl 420 mg) (Breakfast)
Week 11-12 Clenbuterol Hydrochloride [PG] 60/60/80/80/100/100/100/100/60/60 mcg ed (ttl 800 mcg) (Breakfast)
Week 12-13 Glutathione [PG] 600 mg ed (ttl 6.000 mg) (Morning)

IUPAC:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...47#post5278847

DIET:
BMR: 1.954 Kcal
Daily Diet (3.159 Kcal): 300 g of Protides, 55 g of Lipides, 366 g of Glucides
Protides/Glucides Relation: 0,81
Supplements: Multi Vitamins/Minerals, Vitamin C/Ester, EFA complex, ALA, LIV.52, CLA, ZMA, Chromium Picolinate, Acetyl L-Carnitine, Coenzyme Q10, Glutamine, BCAA, Glucosamine, Chondroitin Sulfate, Glycine, l-Arginine, Alpha-Ketoisocaproic Acid Calcium.

STRENGTH (8 reps):__________________________________________Da y 56
Squat (legs) 100 kg (220 lbs)_______________________________________130 kg (286 lbs) +30%
One Arm Dumbbell Row (back) 30 kg (66 lbs)___________________________44 kg (96,8 lbs) +46,66%
Bench Press with Dumbbells (chest) 30 kg (66 lbs) each_________________40 kg (88 lbs) +33,33%
Military Press with Dumbbells (shoulders) 24 kg (52,8 lbs) each____________34 kg (74,8 lbs) +41,66%
Dumbbells Curls (biceps - seated) 24 kg (52,8 lbs) each_________________30 kg (66 lbs) +25%
Dumbbells Curls (triceps - lying down) 18 kg (39,6 lbs) each______________24 kg (52,8 lbs) +33,33%

Strength Acquisition: 35% estimate
Formula: (current-previous)/previous*100 = (+) increase% or (-) decrease%

STATS:__________________________________________Day 16_____________________________Day 35_____________________________Day 56______________________________________Day 62 (1W PCT)
36 years old, 187 cm (6'2" ft)
Body Weight: 87,5 kg (192,5 lbs)_________________________94,5 kg (207,9 lbs) +8%_____________98,9 kg (217,6 lbs) +13,02%_________96,5 kg (212,3 lbs) +10,28%__________________94,7 kg (208,3 lbs) +8,23%
Body Fat: 12,9%______________________________________14% +8,52%_______________________14,6% +13,17%____________________14% +8,52%________________________________12,3% -3,14%
Body Water: 63,2%____________________________________63,6% +0,63%_____________________63,8% +0,94%_____________________64% +1,26%
Estimated Muscle Mass: 73,5 kg (161,7 lbs)________________77,3 kg (170,6 lbs) +5,17%__________80,3 kg (176,66 lbs) +9,25%_________78,9 kg (173,58 lbs) +7,34%__________________79,6 kg (175,1 lbs) +8,30%

Lean Body Mass Acquisition (LBM): 9,043 kg (19,89 lbs)
New Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR): 2.053 Kcal
Complete Cycle Log (post # 393): http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...403234&page=10

BLOOD WORK, URINE, FAECES & SPERM ANALYSES:
__________________________________________________18__________36__________51__________56__________98 (4W PCT)_____122 (8W PCT)

BLOOD
ERYTHROCYTES: 5,18 mil/mmc [4 - 5,5]__________________________________________________ ___5,2_________5,34
LEUCOCYTES: 7,3 mila/mmc [4 - 9]__________________________________________________ _______8,6_________7,5
- NE: 4,1 / 55,8 % [2 - 6 / 37 - 80]__________________________________________________ __________________4,1 / 54,8
- LY: 2,4 / 33 % [0,6 - 36 / 10 - 50]__________________________________________________ _________________2,7 / 35,6
- MO: 0,6 / 8,6 % [0 - 0,9 / 0 - 12]__________________________________________________ __________________0,5 / 7,1
- EO: 0,2 / 2,1 % [0 - 7 / 0 - 7]__________________________________________________ _____________________0,1 / 1,8
- BA: 0 / 0,5 % [0 - 0,2 / 0 - 2,5]__________________________________________________ ____________________0,1 / 0,7
HEMOGLOBIN: 14,9 gr/dl [14 - 18]__________________________________________________ ________13,6________15,6
HEMATOCRIT: 45,3 % [42 - 52]__________________________________________________ __________44,1________45,5
MCV: 87,5 femtol [82 - 98]__________________________________________________ ______________84,8________85,2
MCH: 28,8 picogr. [27 - 31]__________________________________________________ _____________26,2________29,2
MCHC: 32,9 gr/dl [32 - 36]__________________________________________________ ______________30,8________34,3
RDW: 13,5 % [11,6 - 16]__________________________________________________ ___________________________14
GRAN-NEUTROPHILS: 55,8 % [37 - 80]__________________________________________________ ____60,7________54,8
GRAN-EOSINOPHILS: 2,1 % [0 - 7]__________________________________________________ ________1,9_________1,8
GRAN-BASOPHILS: 0,5 % [0 - 2,5]__________________________________________________ ________0,7_________0,7
LYMPHOCYTES: 33,0 % [10 - 50]__________________________________________________ ________28,4________35,6
MONOCYTES: 8,6 % [0 - 12]__________________________________________________ _____________8,3_________7,1
PLATELETS: 163000 /mmc [150000 - 400000]________________________________________________336000_____164000
PCT: 0,12 % [0,1 - 1]__________________________________________________ ______________________________0,12
MPV: 7,3 fl [5 - 10]__________________________________________________ ________________________________7,2
PDW: 17,4 % [12 - 18]__________________________________________________ _____________________________18,5

HEART, KIDNEYS, LIVER, PANCREAS & PROSTATE
GLYCEMIA (basal): 90 mg/dl [70 - 110]__________________________________________________ ________________98
QUICK PROTHROMBIN TIME: 13,7 s_________________________________________________ ____________________13,1
PROTHROMBIN ACTIVITY: 69,6 % [70- 130]__________________________________________________ ___________86
INR: 1,18__________________________________________________ ________________________________________1,09
APTT: 27,5 s_________________________________________________ ______________________________________27,8
FIBRINOGEN: 185 mg/dl [180 - 350]__________________________________________________ __________________184,7
HOMOCYSTEINE: 10 mcmoli/l [6 - 15]__________________________________________________ _________________9,5
MYOGLOBIN: 26 ng/ml [10 - 46]__________________________________________________ ______________________38
AZOTEMIA: 49 mg/dl [15 - 40]________________________62__________57_______________________56_________53______________52,8
CREATININE: 1,2 mg/dl [0,8 - 1,3]_____________________1,2__________1,2______________________1,3_________1,3
HYPERURICEMIA: 5,9 mg/dl [3,5 - 7,2]__________________________________________________ ________________5,5
CHOLESTEROL TTL: 168 mg/dl [140 - 220]______________179_________205______________________232________194
CHOLESTEROL VLDL: 33 mg/dl [20 - 40]__________________________________________________ _______________30
CHOLESTEROL LDL: 105 mg/dl [<150]___________________157_________199_____________________202_________129_____________101
CHOLESTEROL HDL: 41 mg/dl [>40]_ ___________________13__________11_______________________13__________45
INDEX RISK HDL: 4,1 [till 5]___________________________13,76_______19,2_____________________17,8________4,3
APO A1: 185 mg/dl [115 - 220]__________________________________________________ ______________________190
APO B: 77 mg/dl [55 - 125]__________________________________________________ __________________________79
RATIO B/A1 APO: 0,41 [0,35 - 1]__________________________________________________ _____________________0,41
TRIGLYCERIDES: 95 mg/dl [<150]__________________________________________________ _____________________104
GAMMA (YGT): 28 u/ltr [15 - 85]______________________29__________28_______________________26__________40
ALKALINE PHOSPHATASE: 71 u/ltr [50 - 136]__________________________________________________ ___________72
BILIRUBIN TTL: 1,98 mg/dl [0,2 - 1]___________________0,83_________0,78_________________________________0,93____________1,54
BILIRUBIN DIRECT: 0,22 mg/dl [0,05 - 0,3]______________0,1__________0,1__________________________________0,1_____________0,53
BILIRUBIN INDIRECT: 1,76 mg/dl [till 0,7]________________0,73________0,68_________________________________0,83____________1,01
TRANSAMINASE GOT/AST: 21 u/ltr [15 - 37]_____________55__________50_______________________46_________28______________58
TRANSAMINASE GPT/ALT: 41 u/ltr [30 - 65]_____________86__________66_______________________95__________71______________77
FERRITIN: 124,5 ng/ml [24 - 336]__________________________________________________ ____________________124
LIPASE: 236 u/ltr [114 - 284]__________________________________________________ ________________________298____________216
AMYLASE: 62 u/ltr [25 - 115]_________________________55__________63_______________________64__________75_____________76
LDH: 160 u/ltr [100 - 190]__________________________________________________ __________________________155
CPK MB: 200 u/ltr [35 - 232]__________________________________________________ ________________________230
CK NAK: 150 u/l [till 167]__________________________________________________ ___________________________165
PROTIDES TTL: 7,4 gr/dl [6,4 - 8,2]__________________________________________________ _______7,8_________7,7
ALBUMIN: 59,1 % [51 - 63,3]__________________________________________________ ____________60,3________63,1
ALFA 1: 2,9 % [2,2 - 4,3]__________________________________________________ _______________2,4_________2,3
ALFA 2: 10,1 % [9,5 - 14]__________________________________________________ ______________12,6________8,5
BETA: 9,6 % [10 - 14,5]__________________________________________________ _______________11,3_________9,3
GAMMA: 18,3 % [12 - 20]__________________________________________________ _______________13,4________16,8
A/G RATIO: 1,44 [1 - 1,7]__________________________________________________ _______________1,52________1,71
PSA: 0,64 ng/ml [till 4]__________________________________________________ _________________0,39_________0,58
PSA FREE: 0,22__________________________________________________ ____________________________________0,24
PSA FREE/TTL: 0,40 [>0,15]__________________________________________________ _________________________0,41
PAP: 4,8 u/ltr [<=4,7]_ __________________________________________________ _____________________________5,1
IGG: 1447 mg/dl [681 - 1648]__________________________________________________ ________________________1455
IGA: 304 mg/dl [87 - 474]__________________________________________________ ___________________________321
IGD: 50 u/ml [till 100]__________________________________________________ _______________________________57
IGM: 99 mg/dl [48 - 312]__________________________________________________ ____________________________97
IGE (prist): 37,47 iu/ml [1,31 - 165,3]__________________________________________________ _________________39,77

INFECTIVITY & ALLERGOLOGY
HIV-Ab (1+2): 0,16 non-react u/cutoff [<0,9]__________________________________________________ __________0,18 non-react
HCV-Ab: 0,13 non-react u/cutoff [<0,9]__________________________________________________ _______________0,12 non-react
HBS-Ag: 0,37 non-react u/cutoff [<0,9]__________________________________________________ _______________0,39 non-react
HAV-Ab (IgT): >85 react miu/ml [<35]__________________________________________________ _________________>85 react
HAV-Ab (IgM): 0,08 non-react u/cutoff [<0,9]__________________________________________________ __________0,07 non-react
TAS: 110 ui/ml [0 - 166]__________________________________________________ ____________________________111
VDRL: negative [negative]__________________________________________________ ___________________________negative
CRP: 2 mg/dl [till 5]__________________________________________________ _________________________________2,1
REUMA TEST: <20 iu/ml [<20]__________________________________________________ ________________________<20
ESR: 5 mm/h [till 15]__________________________________________________ ________________________________5
LYSOZYME: 7 picog/ml [4 - 13]__________________________________________________ _______________________7
ACE: 9 mcg/l [6 - 12]__________________________________________________ _______________________________8,5
RAST Egg: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Yolk: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Crayfish: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Yeast: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Pork: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Fish Mix: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Olea Europaea Pollen: 0,1 [<0,3]

VITAMINS & ELECTROLYTES
VITAMIN A: 779,2 mcg/l [300 - 650]__________________________________________________ _________________692,1
VITAMIN E: 12,6 mg/ltr [5 - 20]__________________________________________________ ______________________100
VITAMIN C: 0,9 mg/ml [0,5 - 1,5]__________________________________________________ ____________________1,2
VITAMIN B12: 587 pg/ml [179 - 1162]__________________________________________________ _________________787
VITAMIN D3: 60 ng/ml [10 - 45]__________________________________________________ _____________________40
VITAMIN H: 82 ng/ml [70 - 100]__________________________________________________ _____________________90
VITAMIN K: 22 mcg/ml [15 - 30]__________________________________________________ _____________________26
VITAMIN PP: 0,7 mg/ml [0,5 - 0,8]__________________________________________________ ___________________0,7
SODIUM: 142 meq/l [136 - 145]__________________________________________________ ______________________139
POTASSIUM: 4,0 meq/l [3,5 - 5,1]__________________________________________________ ____________________4,4
CALCIUM: 9,0 mg/dl [8,5 - 10,1]__________________________________________________ ______________________9,1
MAGNESIUM: 2,0 mg/dl [1,8 - 2,4]__________________________________________________ ____________________2,2
PHOSPHORUS: 3,7 mg/dl [2,7 - 4,5]__________________________________________________ ___________________4,3
IRON: 148 mcg/dl [35 - 150]__________________________________________________ _________________________96
ZINC: 103 mcg/dl [80 - 125]__________________________________________________ _________________________132
CHLORINE: 103 meq/l [98 - 107]__________________________________________________ ______________________99
COPPER: 88 ku/l [76 - 153]__________________________________________________ __________________________88

HORMONAL
GASTRIN: 31 pg/ml [28 - 125]__________________________________________________ _______________________33
MELATONIN: 47 pg/ml [20 - 85]__________________________________________________ ______________________50
C-PEPTIDE: 1,2 ng/ml [0,78 – 1,89]__________________________________________________ ___________________1,25
INSULIN: 3,34 micru/ml [1,9 - 23]______________________3,6_________3,04_________________________________2,39
GLUCAGON: 55 pg/ml [40 - 130]__________________________________________________ _____________________55
ACTH: 20 pg/dl [till 50]__________________________________________________ _____________________________21
CORTISOL: 12,53 mg/dl [8,7 - 22,4]__________________________________________________ ______13,64_______18,7
FT3: 3,48 pg/ml [2,2 - 4,7]__________________________________________________ ______________4,82_______3,13
FT4: 1,26 ng/dl [0,8 - 2]__________________________________________________ ________________1,29_______1,16
MSH: 9,7 pmol/l [7,9 - 14,4]__________________________________________________ _________________________9,8
HTG: 7,65 ng/ml [0 - 35]______ __________________________________________________ _____________________6,61
TBG: 18 mcg/ml [15 - 32]__________________________________________________ ___________________________18,6
TSH: 2,92 micru/ml [0,34 - 5,6]__________________________________________________ __________3,88________3,92
FSH: 4,16 miu/ml [1,27 - 19,26]_______________________2,09________2,56_____________________1,42________3,9
LH: 3,80 miu/ml [1,24 - 8,62]_________________________2,19________2,58_____________________2,61________4,84
PREGNENOLONE: 155 ng/ml [10 - 230]__________________________________________________ ________________160
ANDROSTENEDIONE: 1,77 ng/ml [0,3 - 3,1]__________________________________________________ ____________1,79
ALDOSTERONE: 180 pg/ml [10 - 160]__________________________________________________ _________________184
DHEA: 7,3 ng/ml [2,5 - 9,5]__________________________________________________ _________________________6,2
DHEAS: 191 mcg/dl [106 - 464]_______________________209_________209,6________________________________221,6
DHT: 71 ng/ml [31 - 146]__________________________________________________ ___________________________70
TESTOSTERONE TTL: 3,86 ng/ml [1,75 - 7,81]___________0,72________0,61_________________________________6,29
TESTOSTERONE FREE: 11,7 pg/ml [8 - 47]______________5,2_________4,8_______________________9,6_________13,5
SHBG: 38 pg/ml [13 - 71]____________________________10__________<0,1_________________________________36
ESTRONE: 47 pg/ml [40 - 60]__________________________________________________ ________________________45
ESTRADIOL 17-BETA: 36 pg/ml [<20 - 47]__________________________________________________ __9__________30
ESTRIOL: 5,7 pg/ml [4,7 - 7,1]__________________________________________________ _______________________5,5
PROGESTERONE: 0,93 ng/ml [0,14 - 2,06]__________________________________________________ _____________0,87
PRL: 9,88 ng/ml [2,64 - 13,13]__________________________________________________ ___________12,78______13,05
IGF-1: 190 ng/ml [96 - 424]__________________________184_________163__________________________________392
HGH: 0,2 ng/ml [0 - 10]______ ______________________<0,1________<0,1__________________________________0,3

URINE
COLOUR: straw-coloured____________________________straw-coloured____________________________________straw-coloured
APPEARANCE: lightly opalescent [limpid]_______________lightly opalescent__________________________________limpid
PH REACTION: 5,5 [5 - 6,5]___________________________6________________________________________________5,5
SPECIFIC WEIGHT: 1020 [1015 - 1028]_________________1016_____________________________________________1018
PROTEINS: none mg/dl [0 - 10]________________________none_____________________________________________none
HEMOGLOBIN: none [none]___________________________present +_________________________________________none
GLUCOSE: none gr/litre [0 - 0,2]_______________________none_____________________________________________none
KETONE BODIES: none [none]_________________________none_____________________________________________none
UROBILINOGEN: none mg/dl [0 - 0,2]___________________none_____________________________________________none
BILIARY PIGMENTS: none [none]______________________none_____________________________________________none
NITRITE: none [none]_______________________________none_____________________________________________none

FAECES
SHAPE: solid [homogeneous]__________________________________________________ ________________________caprina
CONSISTENCY: compost [poltacea]__________________________________________________ __________________solid
COLOUR: brown [brown]__________________________________________________ ____________________________brown
ODOUR: sui generis [sui generis]__________________________________________________ _____________________sui generis
MUCUS: absent [absent]__________________________________________________ ___________________________absent
BLOOD: absent [absent]__________________________________________________ ____________________________absent
PH REACTION: 7__________________________________________________ ___________________________________7,4
PARASITOLOGICAL: negative [negative]__________________________________________________ _______________negative
SALMONELLA: negative [negative]__________________________________________________ ___________________negative
HELICOBACTER PYLORI: negative [negative]__________________________________________________ ___________negative
GIARDIASIS: negative [negative]__________________________________________________ ____________________negative

SPERM
VOLUME: 2,8 ml [>=2]__ __________________________________________________ ____2,5____________________________________2,6
PH: 8,1 [7,2 - 8]__________________________________________________ __________7,2_____________________________________7,3
APPEARANCE: own__________________________________________________ _________own____________________________________own
VISCOSITY: increased + [within limits]__________________________________________within limits_____________________________within limits
FLUIDIFICATION 45': finely irregular [physiologic]_________________________________physiologic______________________________physiologic
SPERMATOZOON CONCENTRATION: 89.000.000 /ml [>=20.000.000]_ _________________42.000.000______________________________85.000.000
EJACULATE SPERMATOZOON COUNT: 249.200.000 [>=40.000.000] __________________105.000.000_____________________________228.000.000
2ND HOUR MOTILITY: 60 % [>=50]______________________________________________45______________________________________57
TYPICAL MORPHOLOGIC SPERMATOZOON: 30 % [>=35]_____________________________28______________________________________35
ATYPICAL MORPHOLOGIC SPERMATOZOON: 70 %__________________________________72______________________________________71
LEUCOCYTE: 300.000 /ml [<=1.000.000]_________________________________________500.000_________________________________335.000
ERYTHROCYTE: absent [absent/rare]____________________________________________absent__________________________________absent
GERMINAL CELLS: rare [absent/rare]____________________________________________present_________________________________absent
EPITHELIAL CELLS: rare [absent/rare]___________________________________________absent__________________________________absent
SPERMAGGLUTINATION ZONES: rare [absent/rare]_________________________________absent__________________________________absent

by "Whole Body Hologic QDR-4500W DXA Fan-Beam Scanner"

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**BJJ** · 10-01-2009, 05:06 PM

Day1
60 oxa - 3.436 Kcal - (Biceps & Triceps, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu)
Sides & Notes: Nil

Day2
60 oxa - 3.550 Kcal - (Back, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu)
Sides & Notes: Bursts of Heat

Day3
60 oxa - 3.199 Kcal - (Rest)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite, Diarrhea, Tiredness

Day4
60 oxa - 3.340 Kcal - (Legs)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite, Diarrhea, Tiredness, Face Swelling, 4 mg Loperamide

Day5
60 oxa - 2.799 Kcal - (Rest)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite, Diarrhea, Tiredness, Face Swelling, Yellow Skin (left biceps & shoulder), 4 mg Loperamide, 25.000 iu Neomycin

Day6
60 oxa - 3.646 Kcal - (Chest)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite, Tiredness, Yellow Skin, 1 gr Acetylsalicy Acid

Day7
60 oxa - 3.912 Kcal - (Shoulders)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite, Yellow Skin, 600 mg Acetylcysteine

Daily Average KCalories Intake: 3.411

1ST WEEK NOTES
The first week was very hard to go through. No will to eat at all and lots of problem to understand if the diarrhea was due from oxandrolone or LIV.52; also I got a persistent sore throat.
The strength increase was considerable, especially on legs and shoulders.
As daily supplements throughout the cycle: (Multi Vitamins/Minerals 1 tb, Vitamin C/Ester 3 gr, EFA complex 6 gr, ALA 600 mg, LIV.52 2 tabs, CLA 4 gr, ZMA, Tribulus Terrestris 3 gr, Chromium Picolinate 400 mcg, Acetyl L-Carnitine 600 mg, Coenzyme Q10, Glutamine 35 gr, BCAA 20 gr, MT Gakic Hardcore 8 tbs (only before w/o), UN Animal Flex 1 pckt.

**BJJ** · 10-06-2009, 04:55 PM

Day 1
60 oxa - 3.436 Kcal - (Biceps & Triceps, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu)
Sides & Notes: Nil

Day2
60 oxa - 3.550 Kcal - (Back, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu)
Sides & Notes: Bursts of Heat

Day3
60 oxa - 3.199 Kcal - (Rest)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite, Diarrhea, Tiredness

Day4
60 oxa - 3.340 Kcal - (Legs)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite, Diarrhea, Tiredness, Face Swelling, 4 mg Loperamide

Day5
60 oxa - 2.799 Kcal - (Rest)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite, Diarrhea, Tiredness, Face Swelling, Yellow Skin (left biceps & shoulder), 4 mg Loperamide, 25.000 iu Neomycin

Day6
60 oxa - 3.646 Kcal - (Chest)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite, Tiredness, Yellow Skin, 1 gr Acetylsalicy Acid

Day7
60 oxa - 3.912 Kcal - (Shoulders)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite, Yellow Skin, 600 mg Acetylcysteine

Daily Average KCalories Intake: 3.411

1ST WEEK NOTES
The first week was very hard to go through. No will to eat at all and lots of problem to understand if the diarrhea was due from oxandrolone or liv.52; also I got a persistent sore throat.
The strength increase was considerable, especially on legs and shoulders.
As daily supplements throughout the cycle: (Multi Vitamins/Minerals 1 tb, Vitamin C/Ester 3 gr, EFA complex 6 gr, ALA 600 mg, LIV.52 2 tabs, CLA 4 gr, ZMA, Tribulus Terrestris 3 gr, Chromium Picolinate 400 mcg, Acetyl L-Carnitine 600 mg, Coenzyme Q10, Glutamine 35 gr, BCAA 20 gr, MT Gakic Hardcore 8 tbs (only before w/o), UN Animal Flex 1 pckt.

Day 8
60 oxa - 2.415 Kcal - (Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite,Tiredness, 25.000 iu Neomycin, 4 mg Loperamide, 600 mg Acetylcysteine

Day 9
60 oxa - 3.400 Kcal - (Biceps & Triceps)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite

Day 10
60 oxa - 2.760 Kcal - (Cardio 35’)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite

Day 11
60 oxa - 4.208 Kcal - (Legs)
Sides & Notes: Oxandrolone kicked in

Day 12
60 oxa - 3.332 Kcal - (Rest)
Sides & Notes: Nil

Day 13
60 oxa - 3.645 Kcal - (Back)
Sides & Notes: Nil

Day 14
60 oxa - 3.976 Kcal - (Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Libido (only on request)

Daily Average KCalories Intake: 3.392

2ND WEEK NOTES
At day 11 finally Anavar showed me its potentiality by improving my strength incredibly. Not only the power to lift was improved but also the reps needed to exhaust the muscles.
Furthermore, I am starving again especially after the work-outs.
The diarrhea was given by Liv.52. I solved the problem by taking only 1 tab in the morning.

**BJJ** · 10-13-2009, 02:27 PM

Day1
60 oxa - 3.436 Kcal - (Biceps & Triceps, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu)
Sides & Notes: Nil

Day2
60 oxa - 3.550 Kcal - (Back, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu)
Sides & Notes: Bursts of Heat

Day3
60 oxa - 3.199 Kcal - (Rest)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite, Diarrhea, Tiredness

Day4
60 oxa - 3.340 Kcal - (Legs)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite, Diarrhea, Tiredness, Face Swelling, 4 mg Loperamide

Day5
60 oxa - 2.799 Kcal - (Rest)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite, Diarrhea, Tiredness, Face Swelling, Yellow Skin (left biceps & shoulder), 4 mg Loperamide, 25.000 iu Neomycin

Day6
60 oxa - 3.646 Kcal - (Chest)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite, Tiredness, Yellow Skin, 1 gr Acetylsalicy Acid

Day7
60 oxa - 3.912 Kcal - (Shoulders)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite, Yellow Skin, 600 mg Acetylcysteine

Daily Average KCalories Intake: 3.411

1ST WEEK NOTES
The first week was very hard to go through. No will to eat at all and lots of problem to understand if the diarrhea was due from oxandrolone or liv.52; also I got a persistent sore throat.
The strength increase was considerable, especially on legs and shoulders.
As daily supplements throughout the cycle: (Multi Vitamins/Minerals 1 tb, Vitamin C/Ester 3 gr, EFA complex 6 gr, ALA 600 mg, LIV.52 2 tabs, CLA 4 gr, ZMA, Tribulus Terrestris 3 gr, Chromium Picolinate 400 mcg, Acetyl L-Carnitine 600 mg, Coenzyme Q10, Glutamine 35 gr, BCAA 20 gr, MT Gakic Hardcore 8 tbs (only before w/o), UN Animal Flex 1 pckt.

Day 8
60 oxa - 2.415 Kcal - (Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite,Tiredness, 25.000 iu Neomycin, 4 mg Loperamide, 600 mg Acetylcysteine

Day 9
60 oxa - 3.400 Kcal - (Biceps & Triceps)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite

Day 10
60 oxa - 2.760 Kcal - (Cardio 35’)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite

Day 11
60 oxa - 4.208 Kcal - (Legs)
Sides & Notes: Oxandrolone kicked in

Day 12
60 oxa - 3.332 Kcal - (Rest)
Sides & Notes: Nil

Day 13
60 oxa - 3.645 Kcal - (Back)
Sides & Notes: Nil

Day 14
60 oxa - 3.976 Kcal - (Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Libido (only on request)

Daily Average KCalories Intake: 3.392

2ND WEEK NOTES
At day 11 finally Anavar showed me its potentiality by improving my strength incredibly. Not only the power to lift was improved but also the reps needed to exhaust the muscles.
Furthermore, I am starving again especially after the work-outs.
The diarrhea was given by Liv.52. I solved the problem by taking only 1 tab in the morning.

Day 15

60 oxa – 3.698 Kcal – (Chest)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Libido (only on request), Back pain on the lumbar right region

Day 16

60 oxa – 3.645 Kcal – (Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Libido (only on request), Back pain on the lumbar right region

Updated Stats (from the beginning):
BW: 94,5 kg (207,9 lbs) +8,62%, BF: 14% +8,52%, WTR: 63,6% +0,63%, EMM: 77,3 kg (170,6 lbs) +5,17%
(data given by Tanita BC-418)

Day 17

60 oxa – 3.591 Kcal – (Shoulders)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Libido (only on request), Diarrhea, 4 mg Loperamide

Day 18

60 oxa – 3.016 Kcal – (Rest)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Libido (only on request), Back pain on the lumbar right region

Blood analyses results to be compared with the ones taken before the cycle.

CHOLESTEROL TTL: 168 mg/dl (after: 179)
CHOLESTEROL HDL: 41 mg/dl (after: 13) (range >=40)
INDEX RISK HDL: 4,1 (after: 13,76) (range till 5)
CHOLESTEROL LDL: 105 mg/dl (after: 157) (range 130-159, elevated borderline)
BILIRUBIN TTL: 1,98 mg/dl (after: 0,83) (range 0,2-1)
BILIRUBIN DIRECT: 0,22 mg/dl (after: 0,1) (range 0,05-0,3)
BILIRUBIN INDIRECT: 1,76 mg/dl (after: 0,73) (range till 0,7)
CREATININE: 1,2 mg/dl (after: 1,2) (range 0,8-1,3)
AZOTEMIA: 49 mg/dl (after: 62) (range 15-40)
AMYLASE: 62 u/ltr (after: 55) (range 25-115)
TRANSAMINASE GPT/ALT: 41 u/ltr (after: 86) (range 30-65)
TRANSAMINASE GOT/AST: 21 u/ltr (after: 55) (range 15-37)
GAMMA (YGT): 28 u/ltr (after: 29) (range 15-85)

INSULIN: 3,34 micru/ml (after: 3,6) (range 1,9-23)
IGF1: (184) (range 96-424)
TESTOSTERONE TTL: 3,86 ng/ml (after: 0,72) (range 1,75-7,81)
TESTOSTERONE FREE: 11,7 pg/ml (after: 5,2) (range 8-47)
SHBG: 38 pg/ml (after: 10) (range 13-71)
FSH: 2,92 micru/ml (after: 2,09) (range 1,27-19,26)
LH: 3,80 miu/ml (after: 2,19) (range 1,24-8,62)
DHEAS: 191 mcg/dl (after: 209) (range 106-464)
HGH: 0,2 ng/ml (after: <0,1) (range 0,0-10)

Day 19

60 oxa – 3.125 Kcal – (Biceps & Triceps)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Libido (only on request)

Day 20

60 oxa – 3.332 Kcal – (Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Libido (only on request), Sinusitis, 400 mg Acetylsalicy Acid

Day 21

60 oxa – 3.129 Kcal – (Rest)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Libido (only on request), Sinusitis, Headache, 2 gr Paracetamol, 500 mg Acetylcysteine Antibiotic, 600 mg Acetylcysteine

Daily Average KCalories Intake: 3.362

3RD WEEK NOTES
I understood that the best time to take oxandrolone is after the meals, not before or during, otherwise I get diarrhea and this apart from ingesting Liv.52.
Unfortunately, I got a bit sick yesterday and today is even worse. Every year I suffer from sinusitis which I hope to cure as fast as possible.
In regards of the results of blood analyses above reported, my bilirubin values decreased within the normal range, as expected. Oxandrolone seems "to cure" Gilberts's syndrome (which I have).
Of course, either LDL, HDL and Transaminase went up; as well as azotemia which was already a bit higher and surely it could not start declining during the cycle.
Strangely, creatinine stayed at the same level but this is good in relation with azotemia.
What I do not understand are the values related to LH, FSH and HGH compared with DHEAS. Hopefully my endocrinologist, if not someone in here before, will explain this issue.

**BJJ** · 10-20-2009, 02:20 PM

Day1
60 oxa - 3.436 Kcal - (Biceps & Triceps, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu)
Sides & Notes: Nil

Day2
60 oxa - 3.550 Kcal - (Back, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu)
Sides & Notes: Bursts of Heat

Day3
60 oxa - 3.199 Kcal - (Rest)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite, Diarrhea, Tiredness

Day4
60 oxa - 3.340 Kcal - (Legs)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite, Diarrhea, Tiredness, Face Swelling, 4 mg Loperamide

Day5
60 oxa - 2.799 Kcal - (Rest)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite, Diarrhea, Tiredness, Face Swelling, Yellow Skin (left biceps & shoulder), 4 mg Loperamide, 25.000 iu Neomycin

Day6
60 oxa - 3.646 Kcal - (Chest)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite, Tiredness, Yellow Skin, 1 gr Acetylsalicy Acid

Day7
60 oxa - 3.912 Kcal - (Shoulders)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite, Yellow Skin, 600 mg Acetylcysteine

Daily Average KCalories Intake: 3.411

1ST WEEK NOTES
The first week was very hard to go through. No will to eat at all and lots of problem to understand if the diarrhea was due from oxandrolone or liv.52; also I got a persistent sore throat.
The strength increase was considerable, especially on legs and shoulders.
As daily supplements throughout the cycle: (Multi Vitamins/Minerals 1 tb, Vitamin C/Ester 3 gr, EFA complex 6 gr, ALA 600 mg, LIV.52 2 tabs, CLA 4 gr, ZMA, Tribulus Terrestris 3 gr, Chromium Picolinate 400 mcg, Acetyl L-Carnitine 600 mg, Coenzyme Q10, Glutamine 35 gr, BCAA 20 gr, MT Gakic Hardcore 8 tbs (only before w/o), UN Animal Flex 1 pckt.

Day 8
60 oxa - 2.415 Kcal - (Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite,Tiredness, 25.000 iu Neomycin, 4 mg Loperamide, 600 mg Acetylcysteine

Day 9
60 oxa - 3.400 Kcal - (Biceps & Triceps)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite

Day 10
60 oxa - 2.760 Kcal - (Cardio 35’)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite

Day 11
60 oxa - 4.208 Kcal - (Legs)
Sides & Notes: Oxandrolone kicked in

Day 12
60 oxa - 3.332 Kcal - (Rest)
Sides & Notes: Nil

Day 13
60 oxa - 3.645 Kcal - (Back)
Sides & Notes: Nil

Day 14
60 oxa - 3.976 Kcal - (Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Libido (only on request)

Daily Average KCalories Intake: 3.392

2ND WEEK NOTES
At day 11 finally Anavar showed me its potentiality by improving my strength incredibly. Not only the power to lift was improved but also the reps needed to exhaust the muscles.
Furthermore, I am starving again especially after the work-outs.
The diarrhea was given by Liv.52. I solved the problem by taking only 1 tab in the morning.

Day 15
60 oxa – 3.698 Kcal – (Chest)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Libido (only on request), Back pain on the lumbar right region

Day 16
60 oxa – 3.645 Kcal – (Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Libido (only on request), Back pain on the lumbar right region

Updated Stats (from the beginning):
BW: 94,5 kg (207,9 lbs) +8,62%, BF: 14% +8,52%, WTR: 63,6% +0,63%, EMM: 77,3 kg (170,6 lbs) +5,17%
(data given by Tanita BC-418)

Day 17
60 oxa – 3.591 Kcal – (Shoulders)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Libido (only on request), Diarrhea, 4 mg Loperamide

Day 18
60 oxa – 3.016 Kcal – (Rest)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Libido (only on request), Back pain on the lumbar right region

Blood & Urine analyses results to be compared with the ones taken before the cycle.

CHOLESTEROL TTL: 168 mg/dl (after: 179)
CHOLESTEROL HDL: 41 mg/dl (after: 13) (range >=40)
INDEX RISK HDL: 4,1 (after: 13,76) (range till 5)
CHOLESTEROL LDL: 105 mg/dl (after: 157) (range 130-159, elevated borderline)
BILIRUBIN TTL: 1,98 mg/dl (after: 0,83) (range 0,2-1)
BILIRUBIN DIRECT: 0,22 mg/dl (after: 0,1) (range 0,05-0,3)
BILIRUBIN INDIRECT: 1,76 mg/dl (after: 0,73) (range till 0,7)
CREATININE: 1,2 mg/dl (after: 1,2) (range 0,8-1,3)
AZOTEMIA: 49 mg/dl (after: 62) (range 15-40)
AMYLASE: 62 u/ltr (after: 55) (range 25-115)
TRANSAMINASE GPT/ALT: 41 u/ltr (after: 86) (range 30-65)
TRANSAMINASE GOT/AST: 21 u/ltr (after: 55) (range 15-37)
GAMMA (YGT): 28 u/ltr (after: 29) (range 15-85)
INSULIN: 3,34 micru/ml (after: 3,6) (range 1,9-23)
IGF1: (184) (range 96-424)
TESTOSTERONE TTL: 3,86 ng/ml (after: 0,72) (range 1,75-7,81)
TESTOSTERONE FREE: 11,7 pg/ml (after: 5,2) (range 8-47)
SHBG: 38 pg/ml (after: 10) (range 13-71)
FSH: 2,92 micru/ml (after: 2,09) (range 1,27-19,26)
LH: 3,80 miu/ml (after: 2,19) (range 1,24-8,62)
DHEAS: 191 mcg/dl (after: 209) (range 106-464)
HGH: 0,2 ng/ml (after: <0,1) (range 0,0-10)

COLOUR: straw-coloured
APPEARANCE: lightly opalescent (after: lightly opalescent) (limpid)
PH REACTION: 5,5 (after: 6)
SPECIFIC WEIGHT: 1020 (after: 1016)
PROTEINS: none mg/dl (after: none)
HEMOGLOBIN: none (after: present +) (none)
GLUCOSE: none gr/litre (after: none)
KETONE BODIES: none (after: none)
UROBILINOGEN: none mg/dl (after: none)
BILIARY PIGMENTS: none (after: none)
NITRITE: none (after: none)

Day 19
60 oxa – 3.125 Kcal – (Biceps & Triceps)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Libido (only on request)

Day 20
60 oxa – 3.332 Kcal – (Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Libido (only on request), Sinusitis, 400 mg Acetylsalicy Acid

Day 21
60 oxa – 3.129 Kcal – (Rest)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Libido (only on request), Sinusitis, Headache, 2 gr Paracetamol, 500 mg Acetylcysteine Antibiotic, 600 mg Acetylcysteine

Daily Average KCalories Intake: 3.362

3RD WEEK NOTES
I understood that the best time to take oxandrolone is after the meals, not before or during, otherwise I get diarrhea and this apart from ingesting Liv.52.
Unfortunately, I got a bit sick yesterday and today is even worse. Every year I suffer from sinusitis which I hope to cure as fast as possible.
In regards of the results of blood analyses above reported, my bilirubin values decreased within the normal range, as expected. Oxandrolone seems "to cure" Gilberts's syndrome (which I have).
Of course, either LDL, HDL and Transaminase went up; as well as azotemia which was already a bit higher and surely it could not start declining during the cycle.
Strangely, creatinine stayed at the same level but this is good in relation with azotemia.
What I do not understand are the values related to LH, FSH and HGH compared with DHEAS. Hopefully my endocrinologist, if not someone in here before, will explain this issue.

Day 22
60 oxa – 5.096 Kcal – (Legs)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Libido (only on request), Sinusitis, Diarrhea, 100 mg Nimesulide, 500 mg Acetylcysteine Antibiotic, 600 mg Acetylcysteine, 25.000 iu Neomycin, 10 mg Diazepam

Day 23
60 oxa – 4.003 Kcal – (Rest)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Libido (only on request), 10 mg Diazepam

Day 24
60 oxa – 3.650 Kcal – (Back)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Libido (only on request)

Day 25
60 oxa – 4.021 Kcal – (Rest)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Libido (only on request)

Day 26
60 oxa / 50 mes – 4.374 Kcal – (Chest)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Libido (only on request)

Day 27
60 oxa / 50 mes – 5.338 Kcal – (Biceps & Triceps)
Sides & Notes: Libido is Back, Back pain on the lumbar right region

Day 28
60 oxa / 50 mes – 3.071 Kcal – (Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu)
Sides & Notes: Back pain on the lumbar right region

Daily Average KCalories Intake: 4.221

4TH WEEK NOTES
Fortunately sinusitis, which I had between day 20/22, went away quickly.
At day 26 I added 3 gr of Tribulus Terrestris daily.
Since also from day 26 I am ingesting Mesterolone, my libido in back and I have very hard erections. Furthermore, I feel I can last longer while having sex.
My daily Kcalories intake was brought up to more than 4.000 (just checking how much fat I will store comparing to when I was eating/training the same, naturally).
This afternoon I underwent a full abdominal echography to see the overall situation and try to figure out if the pang I felt sometimes around my lower back was due to a kidney problem. The response was negative, all the organs are fine and was told it might be a problem related to training, probably a muscular micro-lesion less than 1mm, therefore not visible.
The persistent sore throat, reported at week 1, it is still there.

**BJJ** · 10-27-2009, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by BJJ

Day1
60 oxa - 3.436 Kcal - (Biceps & Triceps, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu)
Sides & Notes: Nil

Day2
60 oxa - 3.550 Kcal - (Back, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu)
Sides & Notes: Bursts of Heat

Day3
60 oxa - 3.199 Kcal - (Rest)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite, Diarrhea, Tiredness

Day4
60 oxa - 3.340 Kcal - (Legs)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite, Diarrhea, Tiredness, Face Swelling, 4 mg Loperamide

Day5
60 oxa - 2.799 Kcal - (Rest)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite, Diarrhea, Tiredness, Face Swelling, Yellow Skin (left biceps & shoulder), 4 mg Loperamide, 25.000 iu Neomycin

Day6
60 oxa - 3.646 Kcal - (Chest)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite, Tiredness, Yellow Skin, 1 gr Acetylsalicy Acid

Day7
60 oxa - 3.912 Kcal - (Shoulders)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite, Yellow Skin, 600 mg Acetylcysteine

Daily Average KCalories Intake: 3.411

1ST WEEK NOTES
The first week was very hard to go through. No will to eat at all and lots of problem to understand if the diarrhea was due from oxandrolone or liv.52; also I got a persistent sore throat.
The strength increase was considerable, especially on legs and shoulders.
As daily supplements throughout the cycle: (Multi Vitamins/Minerals 1 tb, Vitamin C/Ester 3 gr, EFA complex 6 gr, ALA 600 mg, LIV.52 2 tabs, CLA 4 gr, ZMA, Tribulus Terrestris 3 gr, Chromium Picolinate 400 mcg, Acetyl L-Carnitine 600 mg, Coenzyme Q10, Glutamine 35 gr, BCAA 20 gr, MT Gakic Hardcore 8 tbs (only before w/o), UN Animal Flex 1 pckt.

Day 8
60 oxa - 2.415 Kcal - (Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite,Tiredness, 25.000 iu Neomycin, 4 mg Loperamide, 600 mg Acetylcysteine

Day 9
60 oxa - 3.400 Kcal - (Biceps & Triceps)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite

Day 10
60 oxa - 2.760 Kcal - (Cardio 35’)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Appetite

Day 11
60 oxa - 4.208 Kcal - (Legs)
Sides & Notes: Oxandrolone kicked in

Day 12
60 oxa - 3.332 Kcal - (Rest)
Sides & Notes: Nil

Day 13
60 oxa - 3.645 Kcal - (Back)
Sides & Notes: Nil

Day 14
60 oxa - 3.976 Kcal - (Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Libido (only on request)

Daily Average KCalories Intake: 3.392

2ND WEEK NOTES
At day 11 finally Anavar showed me its potentiality by improving my strength incredibly. Not only the power to lift was improved but also the reps needed to exhaust the muscles.
Furthermore, I am starving again especially after the work-outs.
The diarrhea was given by Liv.52. I solved the problem by taking only 1 tab in the morning.

Day 15
60 oxa – 3.698 Kcal – (Chest)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Libido (only on request), Back pain on the lumbar right region

Day 16
60 oxa – 3.645 Kcal – (Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Libido (only on request), Back pain on the lumbar right region

Updated Stats (from the beginning):

Body Weight: 94,5 kg (207,9 lbs) +8,62%
Body Fat: 14% +8,52%
Water: 63,6% +0,63%
Estimated Muscle Mass: 77,3 kg (170,6 lbs) +5,17%

(data given by Tanita BC-418)

Day 17
60 oxa – 3.591 Kcal – (Shoulders)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Libido (only on request), Diarrhea, 4 mg Loperamide

Day 18
60 oxa – 3.016 Kcal – (Rest)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Libido (only on request), Back pain on the lumbar right region

Blood & Urine analyses results to be compared with the ones taken before the cycle.

CHOLESTEROL TTL: 168 mg/dl (after: 179)
CHOLESTEROL HDL: 41 mg/dl (after: 13) (range >=40)
INDEX RISK HDL: 4,1 (after: 13,76) (range till 5)
CHOLESTEROL LDL: 105 mg/dl (after: 157) (range 130-159, elevated borderline)
BILIRUBIN TTL: 1,98 mg/dl (after: 0,83) (range 0,2-1)
BILIRUBIN DIRECT: 0,22 mg/dl (after: 0,1) (range 0,05-0,3)
BILIRUBIN INDIRECT: 1,76 mg/dl (after: 0,73) (range till 0,7)
CREATININE: 1,2 mg/dl (after: 1,2) (range 0,8-1,3)
AZOTEMIA: 49 mg/dl (after: 62) (range 15-40)
AMYLASE: 62 u/ltr (after: 55) (range 25-115)
TRANSAMINASE GPT/ALT: 41 u/ltr (after: 86) (range 30-65)
TRANSAMINASE GOT/AST: 21 u/ltr (after: 55) (range 15-37)
GAMMA (YGT): 28 u/ltr (after: 29) (range 15-85)
INSULIN: 3,34 micru/ml (after: 3,6) (range 1,9-23)
IGF1: (184) (range 96-424)
TESTOSTERONE TTL: 3,86 ng/ml (after: 0,72) (range 1,75-7,81)
TESTOSTERONE FREE: 11,7 pg/ml (after: 5,2) (range 8-47)
SHBG: 38 pg/ml (after: 10) (range 13-71)
FSH: 2,92 micru/ml (after: 2,09) (range 1,27-19,26)
LH: 3,80 miu/ml (after: 2,19) (range 1,24-8,62)
DHEAS: 191 mcg/dl (after: 209) (range 106-464)
HGH: 0,2 ng/ml (after: <0,1) (range 0,0-10)

COLOUR: straw-coloured
APPEARANCE: lightly opalescent (after: lightly opalescent) (limpid)
PH REACTION: 5,5 (after: 6)
SPECIFIC WEIGHT: 1020 (after: 1016)
PROTEINS: none mg/dl (after: none)
HEMOGLOBIN: none (after: present +) (none)
GLUCOSE: none gr/litre (after: none)
KETONE BODIES: none (after: none)
UROBILINOGEN: none mg/dl (after: none)
BILIARY PIGMENTS: none (after: none)
NITRITE: none (after: none)

Day 19
60 oxa – 3.125 Kcal – (Biceps & Triceps)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Libido (only on request)

Day 20
60 oxa – 3.332 Kcal – (Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Libido (only on request), Sinusitis, 400 mg Acetylsalicy Acid

Day 21
60 oxa – 3.129 Kcal – (Rest)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Libido (only on request), Sinusitis, Headache, 2 gr Paracetamol, 500 mg Acetylcysteine Antibiotic, 600 mg Acetylcysteine

Daily Average KCalories Intake: 3.362

3RD WEEK NOTES
I understood that the best time to take oxandrolone is after the meals, not before or during, otherwise I get diarrhea and this apart from ingesting Liv.52.
Unfortunately, I got a bit sick yesterday and today is even worse. Every year I suffer from sinusitis which I hope to cure as fast as possible.
In regards of the results of blood analyses above reported, my bilirubin values decreased within the normal range, as expected. Oxandrolone seems "to cure" Gilberts's syndrome (which I have).
Of course, either LDL, HDL and Transaminase went up; as well as azotemia which was already a bit higher and surely it could not start declining during the cycle.
Strangely, creatinine stayed at the same level but this is good in relation with azotemia.
What I do not understand are the values related to LH, FSH and HGH compared with DHEAS. Hopefully my endocrinologist, if not someone in here before, will explain this issue.

Day 22
60 oxa – 5.096 Kcal – (Legs)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Libido (only on request), Sinusitis, Diarrhea, 100 mg Nimesulide, 500 mg Acetylcysteine Antibiotic, 600 mg Acetylcysteine, 25.000 iu Neomycin, 10 mg Diazepam

Day 23
60 oxa – 4.003 Kcal – (Rest)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Libido (only on request), 10 mg Diazepam

Day 24
60 oxa – 3.650 Kcal – (Back)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Libido (only on request)

Day 25
60 oxa – 4.021 Kcal – (Rest)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Libido (only on request)

Day 26
60 oxa / 50 mes – 4.374 Kcal – (Chest)
Sides & Notes: Loss of Libido (only on request)

Day 27
60 oxa / 50 mes – 5.338 Kcal – (Biceps & Triceps)
Sides & Notes: Libido is Back, Back pain on the lumbar right region

Day 28
60 oxa / 50 mes – 3.071 Kcal – (Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu)
Sides & Notes: Back pain on the lumbar right region

Daily Average KCalories Intake: 4.221

4TH WEEK NOTES
Fortunately sinusitis, which I had between day 20/22, went away quickly.
At day 26 I added 3 gr of Tribulus Terrestris daily.
Since also from day 26 I am ingesting Mesterolone, my libido in back and I have very hard erections. Furthermore, I feel I can last longer while having sex.
My daily Kcalories intake was brought up to more than 4.000 (just checking how much fat I will store comparing to when I was eating/training the same, naturally).
This afternoon I underwent a full abdominal echography to see the overall situation and try to figure out if the pang I felt sometimes around my lower back was due to a kidney problem. The response was negative, all the organs are fine and was told it might be a problem related to training, probably a muscular micro-lesion less than 1mm, therefore not visible.
The persistent sore throat, reported at week 1, it is still there.

Day 29

60 oxa / 50 mes – 5.723 Kcal – (Shoulders, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu)
Sides & Notes: Back pain on the lumbar right region, Problems to fall asleep because I took the last tabs of Oxandrolone around midnight, 2 gr Ketoprofen foam, 10 mg Diazepam

Day 30

70 oxa / 50 mes – 4.790 Kcal – (Rest)
Sides & Notes: Back pain on the lumbar right region, 2 gr Ketoprofen foam

Day 31

70 oxa / 50 mes – 5.999 Kcal – (Legs)
Sides & Notes: Back pain on the lumbar right region

Day 32

70 oxa / 50 mes – 3.461 Kcal – (Rest)
Sides & Notes: Back pain on the lumbar right region, Diarrhea, 4 mg Loperamide, 10 mg Diazepam

Day 33

70 oxa / 50 mes – 2.763 Kcal – (Rest)
Sides & Notes: Back pain on the lumbar right region, 200 mg Nimesulide, 4 gr Ketoprofen foam

Day 34

70 oxa / 50 mes – 4.321 Kcal – (Chest & Back)
Sides & Notes: Nil

Day 35

60 oxa / 50 mes – 3.973 Kcal – (Biceps & Triceps)
Sides & Notes: Back pain on the lumbar right region, Diarrhea, 100 mg Nimesulide

Updated Stats (from day 16, where I reached with this cycle, my previous natural limit):

Body Weigth: 98,9 kg (217,6 lbs) +4,66%
Body Fat: 14,6% +4,29%
Water: 63,8% +0,31%
Estimated Muscle Mass: 80,3 kg (170,6 lbs) +3,88%

New BMR (Basal Metabolic Rate): 2.485 Kcal
(data given by Tanita BC-418)

Daily Average KCalories Intake: 4.432

5TH WEEK NOTES
So, in 19 days I took 6,6 lbs of lean mass (estimate) while fat increased a bit more but still under control (considering also I am not eating low glycemic index carbs at all) and water kept at the same value.
I would say so far, oxandrolone is showing its ability to increase the lean mass controlling either the fat and the water.
I am quite satisfied because I think I can easily go down to 12% bf retaining most of the lean mass acquired. I will act so the last ten days of the cycle. Till that time, I want to continue eating that much calories and proteins. Perhaps I can start eating more oats instead of pasta and rice!!!

At day 30 I started to ingest 10 mg more of Oxandrolone daily, for a total of 70 mg.
At day 35 I went back to 60 mg since I noticed no differences at all and the back pain on the lumbar right region came back again in a vigorous way. I am getting tired of this also because in spite of the echography I took lastly (which was fine), the pain is always there and seems to get worse after I ingest Oxandrolone. I had no possibility, as previously stated, to go taking blood analyses a few days ago, but I’ll go tomorrow morning. I want to see if the values related to the liver and the kidneys have stabilized or not. In negative case, it could be an explanation for the pain. Surely, I cannot keep taking nimesulide to get rid of the pain since it is very liver toxic too and gives diarrhea.
Strength keeps increasing.
The persistent sore throat, reported at week 1, it is finally gone.

***D7M*** · 10-01-2009, 05:10 PM

I'll see if I can get this moved to the member cycle results forum for you, BJJ.

**terraj** · 10-01-2009, 11:22 PM

Sup BJJ,

Are these...

Strength:
Squat (legs) 110 kg (242 lbs)
Lat Machine (back) 90 kg (198 lbs)
Bench Press (chest) 90 kg (198 lbs)
Seated Military Press (shoulders) 60 kg (132 lbs)
1 Dumbbell (biceps) 28 kg (61 lbs)
1 Dumbbell (triceps) 22 kg (48 lbs)

your one rep max lifts?

also, are you still training BJJ while running the cycle?

**BJJ** · 10-02-2009, 01:56 AM

Originally Posted by terraj

Sup BJJ,

Are these...

Strength:
Squat (legs) 110 kg (242 lbs)
Lat Machine (back) 90 kg (198 lbs)
Bench Press (chest) 90 kg (198 lbs)
Seated Military Press (shoulders) 60 kg (132 lbs)
1 Dumbbell (biceps) 28 kg (61 lbs)
1 Dumbbell (triceps) 22 kg (48 lbs)

your one rep max lifts?

also, are you still training BJJ while running the cycle?

I forgot to specify it, those are 3 reps each.
yes, i keep training while running this cycle. why asking?

**terraj** · 10-02-2009, 02:56 AM

As you know, I think Var is well suited to fighters. However, most fighters are looking for strength from the Var cycle and not size. You are after size to go up a weight class right?
I would have preferred you have a better strength base prior to a cycle...

Still doing BJJ= extra stress on the soft tissue. I would only weight lift and cardio while on the cycle. This will help you get that pounds you want with lesser chance of injury.
Keep your rep range 8-12, you want the size and this is what will give it to you. You will gain strength and maybe fast from the Var, if you don't have experience of lifting heavy you will be prime for injury...keep mid range for reps and keep form.

Hope this make sense to you. Also this just my opinion based my my experience, take it or leave it...

Peace

terraj

**BJJ** · 10-02-2009, 03:23 AM

Originally Posted by terraj

As you know, I think Var is well suited to fighters. yes, that's why i chose it However, most fighters are looking for strength from the Var cycle and not size. i would like to have a bit of both of them You are after size to go up a weight class right?
I would have preferred you have a better strength base prior to a cycle...
i see your point but the strength i have is more than enough to permit me to finalize people with violet/brown belts and 250lbs of body weight (1)

Still doing BJJ= extra stress on the soft tissue. I would only weight lift and cardio while on the cycle. This will help you get that pounds you want with lesser chance of injury. i see you point
Keep your rep range 8-12, you want the size and this is what will give it to you. You will gain strength and maybe fast from the Var, if you don't have experience of lifting heavy you will be prime for injury...keep mid range for reps and keep form.

Hope this make sense to you. Also this just my opinion based my my experience, take it or leave it... thanks for your suggestions

Peace

terraj

(1)
BJJ is about technique, strength can be of help but it is not really needed during a fight, unless you have a mma match. I know my lifting power is not "amazing" compared to other guys with similar genetics appearance but I always tried to focus on flexibility and strength not only the second one. So, due also to the martial art I have chosen, I trained constantly with parallel bars, parallelepiped, the rings, bars... and can do projections with the body which cannot be done by those who are able to lift 20% more than I do.
See what I mean?

**.EA.** · 10-03-2009, 04:42 AM

Originally Posted by terraj

As you know, I think Var is well suited to fighters. However, most fighters are looking for strength from the Var cycle and not size. You are after size to go up a weight class right?
I would have preferred you have a better strength base prior to a cycle...

Still doing BJJ= extra stress on the soft tissue. I would only weight lift and cardio while on the cycle. This will help you get that pounds you want with lesser chance of injury.
Keep your rep range 8-12, you want the size and this is what will give it to you. You will gain strength and maybe fast from the Var, if you don't have experience of lifting heavy you will be prime for injury...keep mid range for reps and keep form.

Hope this make sense to you. Also this just my opinion based my my experience, take it or leave it...

Peace

terraj

That's actually incorrect. The size you see is the buildup of 'fast twitch' muscles rather than the 'slow twitch' muscles. For size you generally will want to keep your reps at the 6-8 range.

**BJJ** · 08-06-2010, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by D7M

I'll see if I can get this moved to the member cycle results forum for you, BJJ.

I totally missed your post lol.
Yes please move it, even though a bit late.

**jason bourne** · 10-02-2009, 03:31 AM

BJJ i feel ya i also have trained bjj for 8 years and understand were your coming from but i got a question you stated above 191lbs what weight are you trying to attain from var? and also good luck i will be subscribed to this thread following it closely

**BJJ** · 10-02-2009, 03:36 AM

Originally Posted by jason bourne

BJJ i feel ya i also have trained bjj for 8 years and understand were your coming from but i got a question you stated above 191lbs what weight are you trying to attain from var? and also good luck i will be subscribed to this thread following it closely

Thanks.
Well actually I wanted to reach 200lbs and then stop even because I was already at that weight naturally a few years ago (but with 15%bf) and fighting was still ok, even tough I was a little slower.
So, surely I do not want to go over 200 and with anavar only and proviron at the end, I really should not have this problem.

**marcus300** · 10-02-2009, 03:41 AM

I will keep an eye on your progress, keep us updated.

**BJJ** · 10-02-2009, 04:03 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

I will keep an eye on your progress, keep us updated.

thank you marcus, i appreciate it.

**terraj** · 10-02-2009, 04:40 AM

Cool bro,

I think you missed my point or I did not state clearly enough.
I did do sub training for over 10 years along with lifting and juice.....and made my fair share of mistakes.
Once again, what I said just my opinion in terms of your level, targets and saftey.

Good luck bro

terraj

**BJJ** · 10-02-2009, 06:23 AM

Originally Posted by terraj

Cool bro,

I think you missed my point or I did not state clearly enough.
I did do sub training for over 10 years along with lifting and juice.....and made my fair share of mistakes.
Once again, what I said just my opinion in terms of your level, targets and saftey.

Good luck bro

terraj

I understand better now what you have meant.
I thank you very much for your advices and care.

What was your sub training about?

**terraj** · 10-02-2009, 07:20 AM

Shoot wrestling and jujitsu in Oz then Japan, from 21 years of age to 30. Myself... not that good...however,I trained with some greats.
For years I jumped between bodybuilding and fighting. In hindsight...I would say the best training and skill level I ever had was when I was away from the juice ...my technique was better when I was lighter and I got less injuries.
But I love lifting weights!

**BJJ** · 10-02-2009, 08:07 AM

Agree with you, belts mean only your technique reached level but this does not mean more than that. Others variables contribute to make a fighter, a good one.

**elpropiotorvic** · 10-02-2009, 10:16 AM

I think u can do it if u stop training Bjj or if u train less.. U are prob just looking to fight at the same weight class with less bf.. I can't recall cause u edited it but Imo going up on weight class requires u to not trainso hard... I personally have gotten injured by doing so cause u gotta learn how to controlethe body on the other hand u have already been at that weight so not gonnA b too hard ... I wish u success u will be a mean 205

**BJJ** · 10-02-2009, 12:39 PM

thanks but i don't want to change my weight class simply because i am done with bjj.
i just want to keep my flexibility and, while improving my strength, get a little bigger.
that's it.

**lovbyts** · 10-02-2009, 01:19 PM

You guys make me jealous. You are doing all the stuff I wanted to do in my youth.
46 (almost 47) isnt that old but with my injuries it makes it near impossible to do most of those things so Im sticking to weight training but not for strength; size and looks.

IF I can get past the injuries/pain I still want to get into some martial arts.

Nice write up BJJ and it will be interesting to see where it goes. Good luck.

**BJJ** · 10-02-2009, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

You guys make me jealous. You are doing all the stuff I wanted to do in my youth.
46 (almost 47) isnt that old but with my injuries it makes it near impossible to do most of those things so Im sticking to weight training but not for strength; size and looks.

IF I can get past the injuries/pain I still want to get into some martial arts.

Nice write up BJJ and it will be interesting to see where it goes. Good luck.

Thank you, I am also interested to see the final results, even though I have no idea what to expect.

What kind of injuries have you gotten?
If they are not so severe, regarding your wishes, I would recommend you either bjj or grappling (without gi).
I believe it is the most effective art to learn and also the less dangerous to play with, especially if you are over 40. IMO.
I train since 20 years almost and never saw anyone injured seriously. Lastly, joined our party a 55 years old man...
and also remember Helio Gracie was still a lion around 85yo!

**lovbyts** · 10-02-2009, 02:56 PM

2 back surgeries due to 3 herniated/ruptured disks. Doc wants to do a 3rd surgery to fuse the bottom 2 disks.

Torn rotator cuff with scare tissue and arthritis they also want to do surgery on.

I seem to find ways to injure myself all the time on my quads, jet ski (see last weeks thread) and skiing lol

I havent let them stop me yet but the definatly slow me down.

**BJJ** · 10-02-2009, 03:07 PM

I am very sorry to hear that man.
I wish you a proper, solid and fast recovery.
Good Luck

**lovbyts** · 10-02-2009, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by BJJ

I am very sorry to hear that man.
I wish you a proper, solid and fast recovery.
Good Luck

Thanks but there is nothing fast about it. The back has been bad and getting worse for 25 years and the shoulder has been about 7.

Hopefully what I am doing now will relieve some of the pain or maybe even fix the problems without surgery.

Good luck again with the cycle.

**arch** · 10-02-2009, 05:47 PM

can you take some before pictures and more as you progress i have also been doing bjj for a 8 years

**BJJ** · 10-03-2009, 03:26 AM

Originally Posted by arch

can you take some before pictures and more as you progress i have also been doing bjj for a 8 years

I have just one from "before" but it is a good one.
Once the cycle is over I will surely get a new BMC and related pics.

**kaigab** · 10-03-2009, 05:04 AM

Did you take a picutre before starting the cycle (it would be nice to evaluate results in unbiased way).

Also, how is your diet (carb/pro/fat)?

**BJJ** · 10-03-2009, 07:05 AM

Originally Posted by kaigab

Did you take a picutre before starting the cycle (it would be nice to evaluate results in unbiased way).

Also, how is your diet (carb/pro/fat)?

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**BJJ** · 10-16-2009, 05:40 AM

Originally Posted by kaigab

... Also, how is your diet (carb/pro/fat)?

BMR (Basal Metabolic Rate): 2.000 Kcal (presently 2.300).
Average daily calories about 3.600 Kcal (presently 4.000).

I always try to keep the ratio between proteins and carbs around 0,75.
Daily diet consists in:

340 gr of Protides (11,99 oz)
95 gr of Lipides (3,35 oz)
450 gr of Glucides (15,87 oz)

The above reported macro nutrients weights (PLG) are effective, meaning what the organism is able to digest.

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