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    RichXXL: The road to Bigness!

    first I wanne introduce myself, my name is Richard, live in The netherlands
    Stats are:
    5'10'' ( 1,77m )
    167.2 LBS ( 76 kg )
    bf: 13%
    Age:"-"

    Next monday I am gonna start with my first cycle:
    It will be:

    Test P 100mg eod 1 to 3 (kickstart)
    Test E 500mg E/w 1 to 12
    Deca 200mg E/w 1 to 10 weeks

    Nolva 14-17 20mg e/d

    Goal is 195lb ( 10 kg gain )

    food: 4500kcal+ ( mostly 5000kcal 400grams of protein, 600 grams of kh's and 100/150 grams of fat. )

    LET'S KICK ASSES!
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    Hold on there Rambo, before you jump the gun and "kick ass" there are a couple of things your should consider first...

    you shouldn't need deca for a first cycle... even @ a low dosage.

    i'm assuming you are using it for it's therapeutic benefits?

    you should stop being a pus*sy and shoot prop @ 75mg ED = ~525mg EW. I like to keep my keep my prop + enan dosage constant when kick-starting.

    Your PCT is subpar, especially if using deca. get some clomid.

    nolvadex 40/40/20/20
    clomid 100/50/50/25

    ^^ run the pct under that protocol.

    where is your HCG ???

    What's your age? and what's your BF? you aren't particularly big for 5'10...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man View Post
    Hold on there Rambo, before you jump the gun and "kick ass" there are a couple of things your should consider first...

    you shouldn't need deca for a first cycle... even @ a low dosage.

    i'm assuming you are using it for it's therapeutic benefits?

    Your PCT is subpar, especially if using deca. get some clomid.

    nolvadex 40/40/20/20
    clomid 100/50/50/25

    ^^ run the pct under that protocol.

    where is your HCG ???

    What's your age? and what's your BF? you aren't particularly big for 5'10...
    Strange, Im reading now for a month of six all Cycles at @ a dutch bodybuilding forum and always it's Nolva only as PCT
    Why clomid with Nolva?
    Im not running HCG in my cycle, only at higher dosages.
    bf = 13% does a person has to be big like 5'10" by 240lbs before using steroids ? then there is no need for use steroids anymore hehe
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichXXl View Post
    Strange, Im reading now for a month of six all Cycles at @ a dutch bodybuilding forum and always it's Nolva only as PCT
    Why clomid with Nolva?
    Im not running HCG in my cycle, only at higher dosages.
    Some BB forums don't suggest it. They are dumb. Research for yourself, and you'll understand quickly why using a combination of both is better.

    Clomid is another SERM that you should use in combination with Nolvadex in order to restart your HPTA. It's the king of SERMS. Use google if you have any more questions about it.

    You should be using HCG if you're using something extremely suppressive like deca . but whatever, it's your balls, if you want them to shrink then thats your prerogative.

    You didn't answer my question about why you're using deca for your first cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man View Post
    Some BB forums don't suggest it. They are dumb. Research for yourself, and you'll understand quickly why using a combination of both is better.

    Clomid is another SERM that you should use in combination with Nolvadex in order to restart your HPTA. It's the king of SERMS. Use google if you have any more questions about it.

    You should be using HCG if you're using something extremely suppressive like deca . but whatever, it's your balls, if you want them to shrink then thats your prerogative.

    You didn't answer my question about why you're using deca for your first cycle.
    Im using test Deca because I don't wanne use the regular cycles and wanne stack Test with something I surgest Dboll but that's mostly temperar and deca isn't ( with a good dieet )
    ( sorry for my bad english )
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichXXl View Post
    Im using test Deca because I don't wanne use the regular cycles and wanne stack Test with something I surgest Dboll but that's mostly temperar and deca isn't ( with a good dieet )
    ( sorry for my bad english )
    Not a problem, your English is pretty good, don't worry about it.

    Ok. Well honestly I would hold off on deca for now, perhaps use it in your next cycle. Since it's your first cycle you should grow like a weed off test only.

    how about doing a cycle like this:

    Test-Prop (weeks 1 - 3 ) @ 75mg each day
    Test-Enan (weeks 1 - 12) @ 500mg each week
    Test-Prop (weeks 13 - 14) @ 75mg each day

    and then start the PCT 3 days after the last injection of prop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man View Post
    Not a problem, your English is pretty good, don't worry about it.

    Ok. Well honestly I would hold off on deca for now, perhaps use it in your next cycle. Since it's your first cycle you should grow like a weed off test only.

    how about doing a cycle like this:

    Test-Prop (weeks 1 - 3 ) @ 75mg each day
    Test-Enan (weeks 1 - 12) @ 500mg each week
    Test-Prop (weeks 13 - 14) @ 75mg each day

    and then start the PCT 3 days after the last injection of prop.
    I Will talk about it with my brother what he think about this cycle I looks pretty nice hehe
    Test + Deca only without Test P? what do you think about that.
    And the PCT
    Nolva 40/40/20/20 means first 2 weaks 40mg e/d en last 2 20mg? same for CLomid 100/50/50/25?
    You were indeed right about Nolva and clomid same in PCT.
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    Something sounds wrong here?
    5'10'' ( 1,77m )
    167.2 LBS ( 76 kg )
    bf: 13%
    DARE I ASK!! Whats your diet like??

    countdown to destruction 5...4...3..2...

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    Don't know what it is in English but:
    Meal 1
    Brinta 120gram
    chicken 100 gram
    Meal 2
    Rice 150 grams
    Chicken 200 grams
    Meal 3
    Panecakes 220 grams
    6 eggs
    Meal 4
    4 Bread 100 grams Chicken
    Meal 5
    Patatos
    Meat ( Chicken or Cow )
    vegetables
    Meal 6
    After training
    Rice 150 grams
    200gram fish ( panga filet )
    Meal 7
    Tuna 150 gram
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    Quote Originally Posted by **TOP** View Post
    Something sounds wrong here?
    5'10'' ( 1,77m )
    167.2 LBS ( 76 kg )
    bf: 13%
    DARE I ASK!! Whats your diet like??

    countdown to destruction 5...4...3..2...
    jesus, ummmmmmm yea not to be critical but those stats suck, even for a natural bodybuilder

    cant really encourage you using steroids when you have stats like that

    owell, best luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichXXl View Post
    I Will talk about it with my brother what he think about this cycle I looks pretty nice hehe
    Test + Deca only without Test P? what do you think about that.

    Bro I'm trying to explain... don't use deca! I don't how to make this any clearer. You shouldn't need to stack multiple compounds for a first cycle.. IMO it should only be Test-E (weeks 1 - 12)... but you can use prop for a kicker if you want..

    And the PCT
    Nolva 40/40/20/20 means first 2 weaks 40mg e/d en last 2 20mg? same for CLomid 100/50/50/25?

    Yes that's exactly what it means.

    You were indeed right about Nolva and clomid same in PCT.

    I know. But glad you checked for yourself!
    Advice in red...

    Just talk to your bro, I guarantee he will like the cycle I previously proposed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ranging1 View Post
    jesus, ummmmmmm yea not to be critical but those stats suck, even for a natural bodybuilder

    cant really encourage you using steroids when you have stats like that

    owell, best luck
    uh what?? You talkin bout me or him??

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    Pancakes as a part of your daily diet????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noles12 View Post
    Pancakes as a part of your daily diet????
    Iknow a few guys that use pancakes in their pre-contest

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