Nunya's Albuterol and T3 Testing

**nunyabizness** · 03-15-2010, 04:02 PM

Short history - 43 yo male, never lifted before. I was always skinny, then skinny fat, then just fat. I started counting calories and doing cardio back in January of last year. I switched to the Starting Strength workout program in March of last year.

I began with the following stats:

Date: 20-Dec-08
Neck size: 18
Biceps: 13.5
Forearms: 11.5
Shoulders: 48
Chest: 46
Belly: 46
Waist: 42
Butt: 42.5
Thighs: 24
Calves: 14
Weight: 246
BF: 32.51 (based on the US Navy tape measurement formula)

After extensive dieting and lifting
13-Mar-10
Neck: 16
Biceps: 14.5
Forearms: 12
Shoulders: 48
Chest: 42
Belly: 37
Waist: 37.5
Butt: 39.5
Thighs: 21.25
Calves: 14.5
Weight: 188.8
BF: 21.12 (same formula)

Lifts:
Squats: 115 -> 245
Bench: 105 -> 175
Deadlift: 135 -> 315
Standing Press: 75 -> 140
Power Clean: 105 -> 155

Frankly, I'm sick of dieting, and want to get more muscle on me. I'm going to hasten the process (hopefully) with some Albuterol and T3. I purchased the bundle from our sponsor (Lion), which also includes keto.

Dosage will start small and ramp up depending on effects.

**DaBullet** · 03-15-2010, 04:06 PM

From your stats it looks like you have been doing some work at the gym...your waist went from a 42 to a 37. Thats pretty good keep it up.

**nunyabizness** · 03-15-2010, 04:12 PM

Day One

Worked out heavy today, squats 225x3x5, bench 165x3x5, deads 300x5, pull ups BW 8, 5, 5, 3.

Wt 188.8 Ht 5'10

Cals: 1896 503 cals burned during workout (using Polar HRM) = net 1393 cals (Maintenance appears to be around 2390, so this is a 1000 cal deficit - on target for 2 lbs per week.)
Protein 172 Carbs 163 Fat 64 Fiber 19

Albuterol 2 mg, T3 12.5 mcg

Was pleasantly surprised by the taste of the medications, they tasted good. I mixed them in 1/3 cup of water just in case. Its about an hour after and I feel fine. Perhaps a little warmer, but that could be placebo.

**nunyabizness** · 03-15-2010, 04:21 PM

All pics taken totally relaxed and unflexed, after supper. So, be nice lol.

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**nunyabizness** · 03-16-2010, 04:30 AM

Day 2

Got up and took 50 mcg of T3 and 3 mg of Albuterol. It's now over an hour later, no noticeable side effects and I feel slightly more alert than I normally do. I slept poorly, however I have chronic sleep issues and didn't take sleep medication last night. (Just wanted to see if there was any side effects before I added another med to the mix.)

Today I will be performing what I call a metabolic workout. Lightish weights, high reps, low rest times - mostly to get my heart rate up while maintaining some resistance. Workout should be: Squats 145x3x10 Lunges 75x3x10 Bench 125x3x10 Standing Press 80x3x10 Clean and Jerk 105x3x10

Diet looks like this: 1914 cals, Protein 197 g, Carbs 190 g, Fat 31 g, Fiber 27 g. I imagine the workout will be around 500 cals - I'll edit that later. Net cals should be around 1400. (nearly 1000 under maintenance)

**nunyabizness** · 03-16-2010, 09:03 AM

Day 2 Post Workout:

I had a lot of energy today, even though I didn't use my customary pre-wo caffeine. I also tried out a set of drugstore neoprene compression knee wraps ($20 ea) as I have bad knees and they've been aggravating me a bit lately. The wraps kept my knees TOASTY warm and eliminated any pain. I feel that I could have added another 10 pounds to squats, lunges and bench. The press and clean & jerk will remain the same. The C&J is probably just a touch too heavy, tempo drops off to needing a few seconds to grab a breath on the last three reps of each set. I'll probably leave it though, as punishment for letting myself get so fat in the first place lol.

HRM read 41 mins time, 135 avg beats per min, 175 max hr, and 458 cals burned. So net should be 1914-458=1456

I'll take another dose of 3 mg of Albuterol in another hour. That would be 7 hours between doses for today.

**nunyabizness** · 03-17-2010, 04:23 AM

Day Three

Slept pretty good last night with my sleeping meds. Woke up this morning and took 100 mcg of T3 and 3 mg of Albuterol. It's now over an hour later, and I feel alert without any side effects.

Meals today look like: 1853 calories, Protein 175g, Carbs 184g (22g fiber), Fat 37g.

Workout will be metabolic again. Plan is squats 165x3x10, lunges 100x3x10, bench 135x3x10, press 75x3x10, and c&j 105x3x10. I decided to reduce the press slightly because I was using hip action around rep 7+ to make the final 3. I'd rather control it and have some increased time under tension. My shoulders seem to be a weak spot. (I know, I'm weak all around - but they stand out) This should be close to a 500 calorie workout - so I should net around 1353 cals today. Close to a 1000 deficit, which is on track for 2 lbs weight loss this week.

I will update after my noon hour workout.

**nunyabizness** · 03-17-2010, 09:16 AM

Day 3 Post Workout

ugggghhhh.....

I decided to experiment a bit today, and added 8 mg of Ephedrine and 200 mg of caffeine immediately preworkout. I was hoping it would kick in partway through and help me make it through the end. Oh boy. Stats for this workout were: Squats 165x3x310, Lunges 100x3x10, Bench 135x3x10, Press 65x3x10 and C&J 95x3x10. My shoulders were fatigued before I finished my warmup set in presses lol. Anyhow I reduced the weight after my first set, and same with the C&J. I wanted to be more controlled with less hip action on the press, and was successful, but I wanted to be explosive with the C&J with only time to breathe one or two breaths in between reps, which I also did.

HRM said: 41 mins time, 147 avg beats per min, 183 max, and 532 cals burned. So net should be 1901 cals (adjusted) - 532 cals = 1369 cals net. On target again at 1000 cals deficit.

I don't think I will take anymore T3 today, but will take another 3 mg of Albuterol in about an hour. In retrospect I don't believe the e&c was a good idea. I don't think I had anymore energy, and my heart rate was as high as I've seen it since I was a superfatty at the beginning of cardio.

**nunyabizness** · 03-18-2010, 04:12 AM

Day 4

Today I will be at normal dosage. Albuterol 2 mg at 6 am, 10 am, 2 pm. T3 50 mcg at 6 am and 2 pm. I had my first dose already, and feel fine. Once again, no sides.

Nutrition for the day is 1533 calories, Protein 162g, Carbs 135g (24 fiber), Fat 34g.

No exercise planned for today as it's rest day. Tomorrow I lift heavy. (for me) Deficit is all food driven today, and should be around 800 cals.

**nunyabizness** · 03-19-2010, 04:08 AM

Day 5

Crappy sleep last night, to the bathroom a few times. I have noticed I'm peeing a lot more than normal.

Today's dosage is Albuterol 2 mg at 6 am, 10 am and 2 pm. T3 100 mcg at 6 am and 2 pm. First dose already done, and I feel fine.

Nutrition for the day is 1904 calories, Protein 168g, Carbs 197g (23g fiber), Fat 45g.

Heavy workout planned for today, workout B in SS. Squats 225x3x5, Standing Press 135x3x5, Power Cleans 145x3x5. As many pull ups as I can do afterwards.

**nunyabizness** · 03-19-2010, 09:20 AM

Day 5 Post Workout

Overall, an amazing workout! Squats 225x3x5, Press 135x3x5, Cleans (had to lower) 135x5, 140x5, 145x2, and then another 135x5. Pull ups BW 8,8,6. I might have tried more pull ups but I was into the workout for over an hour, and had burned 777 cals. Figured it was time to stop.

I ended up with 777 calories after 63 minutes, average hr 143, max hr 184. I didn't feel bad though, and can live with the higher heart rate. I ended up adding another protein shake post-wo because I thought I'd probably need it. I should add more lean bbq pork steak to my dinner, because I'm only net 1137 calories right now, even with the extra shake.

**nunyabizness** · 03-20-2010, 05:49 AM

Day 6

Weight day! Good results this week - down 5.6 pounds to 183.2! No workout today or tomorrow as it's rest days. Taking Albuterol 3 mg x 3 today and T3 100 mg x2.

20-Mar-10
Neck: 16 (0 chg)
Biceps: 14.25 (-.25 chg)
Forearms: 12 (0 chg)
Shoulders: 47 (0 chg)
Chest: 41.5 (-.5 chg)
Belly: 36.75 (-.25 chg)
Waist: 37 (-0.5 chg)
Butt: 38.75 (-.75 chg)
Thighs: 20.75 (-.5 chg)
Calves: 14.25 (-.5 chg)
Weight: 183.2 (-5.6 chg)
BF: 20.68 (-.44% chg)

I was very hot last night and had a headache again. I slept awful. I ended up taking a Celebrex for my headache around 5 am. I will look up the sides for the meds today and possibly reduce the dosage.

**nunyabizness** · 03-21-2010, 12:04 PM

Day 7

Very hot again last night and had a headache. Decided yesterday to only take 100 mcg of T3 in the am, and Albuterol 3 mg 3 times throughout the day. So far so good today, but still quite warm. Nothing intolerable though. Carbing up today for workouts this week.

**nunyabizness** · 03-22-2010, 04:28 AM

Day 8

Pulled a muscle getting dressed yesterday and other little odd muscle pains. I'm thinking it's probably the onset of cramps from taurine depletion - so I will pick some up this morning and start dosing 5g per day.

I think I will continue with the T3 100 mcg OD and Albuterol 3 mg TID. I was warm yesterday, but nothing that couldn't be dealt with by putting on a pair of shorts. No headaches yesterday.

Today's nutrition is as follows: Cals 1902, Prot 161g, Carbs 187g (27g fiber), Fat 58g.

Workout is workout A from Starting Strength. Squats 225x3x5, Bench 165x3x5, Deadlift 310x1x5, as many BW pullups as I can do in as many sets as I can handle. Will update post workout.

**nunyabizness** · 03-22-2010, 09:06 AM

Day 8 Post Workout

Awful. Just awful. Started out well, squats 225x3x5, then bench 165x1x2, 160x0, 155x1x5 and 135x1x10, deadlift 310x0, 300x0, totally out of gas now so sumo'd 225x1x5 and left in disgust. My back is still sore between my shoulder blades and that played big into my bench and dead. Despite all that I still had a 507 cal burn for the session, 44 mins, avg 137, max 169. Net cals for the day are 1394. On target for another 2 lbs loss.

**nunyabizness** · 03-23-2010, 04:22 AM

Day 9

I ended up getting a foam roller yesterday, taking some Robaxin and Celebrex and foam rolled the knots out of my back. Painful as hell to do, but I feel great today, the pinch is gone.

Slept pretty good last night with my sleeping meds. Meds are T3 100 mcg OD, Albuterol 3 mg TID and Taurine 5 g OD. I don't have any cramps today, so I will just continue with the Taurine on a 5g od basis.

Meals today look like: 1775 calories, Protein 148g, Carbs 182g (24g fiber), Fat 41g.

Workout will be metabolic. Plan is Squats 175x3x10, Lunges 110x3x10, Bench 145x3x10, Press 70x3x10 and C&J 100x3x10.

I will update after my noon hour workout.

**nunyabizness** · 03-23-2010, 09:08 AM

Day 9 Post Workout

I'm either getting weaker, or my endurance is dropping off. In any case I will have to lighten the load because I'm getting completely gassed and revving my heart rate into the 180s. I'm not keen on it being that high for a large part of my workout.

Anyhow, squats were 175x3x10, lunges 110x3x10, bench 135x1x10, 1x8, 1x5, press 75x3x10, and C&J 95x4x5. 43 mins, 149 avg bpm, 183 max, 573 cals. This is on target for 2 lbs as normal.

I'm debating whether or not I can keep up the metabolic workouts - perhaps I should just do cardio on my off days, and lift heavy twice a week?

**tballz** · 03-23-2010, 09:39 AM

Awesome...keep this going, bro.

**crf450x** · 03-23-2010, 08:42 PM

update pics?

**nunyabizness** · 03-24-2010, 04:10 AM

Originally Posted by crf450x

update pics?

LOL. Nothing to see yet. I weigh and measure every Saturday, but at less than 1% BF loss so far, no need for pics haha....

**nunyabizness** · 03-24-2010, 04:15 AM

Day 10

Tried an additional 50 mcg of T3 yesterday afternoon. Developed a headache that stuck with me to bedtime. This morning I tried 125 mcg. So far, no headache. I must have a very narrow tolerance for this medication. Albuterol 3 mg tid. Taurine 5 g OD.

Nutrition so far 1761 cals: Prot 157g, Carbs 182 (fiber 24), fat 32g.

Workout today will be about 50 minutes of cardio on the elliptical. I will update post workout with stats.

**elpropiotorvic** · 03-24-2010, 05:39 AM

I would increase carbs 30 more grams and protein another 10 more grams and fat a little more... As far as I understand you taking t3 and that diet is prob not a good idea for muscle retention... (just saying) Maybe top or nark can chime in

**nunyabizness** · 03-24-2010, 06:56 AM

Historically, I won't lose at 2000 cals a day. We'll see how this week works out come weigh day, and if I've dropped more than two pounds I will increase my calories a bit.

I do feel weaker, but I'm willing to risk a bit of muscle loss now to get more of the fat off. I will start a milk/squat style program after where I will add 1 litre whole milk and 4 scoops protein daily.

**nunyabizness** · 03-24-2010, 09:05 AM

Day 10 Postworkout

Elliptical: 50 mins, 145 avg bpm, 173 max, 628 cals burned.

Given that I burned so many cals, I ate a protein bar. So cals now look like: 2051, Prot 187g, Carb 205g (Fiber 26g), Fat 41g. Net cals = 1423 which is approx 900 under maintenance.

**nunyabizness** · 03-25-2010, 05:03 AM

Day 11

I'll do some treadmill at home after work. Unfortunately I have to go out to lunch today. I've skipped my normal breakfast and had a protein bar, will have a steak and salad for supper, and sugar free jello with an apple for nighttime snack. That works out to 1036 calories, Prot 130g, Carb 57g (Fiber 9g), Fat 31g. That leaves me with 789 cals to eat for lunch. I'm thinking I'll have a chicken breast wrap, w lettuce, tomato and lime salsa, and a side salad with some lemon juice for dressing, water to drink. I should be safe with this lunch choice and fall within the 789 cals I have remaining.

T3 125 mcg today, Albuterol 4 mg TID, Taurine 5 gm OD. No side effects at the increased dosage. I'm not feeling a lot in terms of stimulant effects, aside from a higher heart rate and increased temp while working out. I'm going to be starting the Keto soon, which is said to increase the effect of the Albuterol. If I don't feel more ramped up with that I may add another 1 mg to my Albuterol dosages.

**nunyabizness** · 03-26-2010, 06:33 AM

Day 12

Taking a day off work, so I am working out at home today. Took 125 mcg of T3 and 4 mg of Albuterol this morning. I had some breakfast, then went to work out about an hour or so later.

Strength seems to have dropped considerably. I also don't have as much endurance. I was attempting my workout A from the beginning of the week again. Squat goal was 225, but only hit 215x3x5. Bench goal was 165, but only hit 155x4x5, and deadlift goal was a mere 300, but could only get 260x2, so I just pumped out 225x5 after. Stats were 41 mins, 151 avg bpm, 179 max, 634 cals burned.

Nutrition: 1987 cals, Prot 169g, Carb 172g (Fiber 47g), Fat 59g - Workout 634 cals = 1353 net. Once again, that's about 1000 cal deficit on track to 2 lbs this week.

As I indicated before, tomorrow is weigh day. If I've lost more than two pounds I will adjust my nutrition appropriately.

**nunyabizness** · 03-27-2010, 04:45 AM

Day 13

Weight day! Good results this week - down 3.6 pounds to 179.6. Just cardio workout today. Taking Albuterol 6 mg x 3 today and T3 100 mcg.

27-Mar-10
Neck: 15.75 (-.25 chg)
Biceps: 14 (-.25 chg)
Forearms: 11.75 (-.25 chg)
Shoulders: 46 (-1.0 chg)
Chest: 41.75 (+.25 chg)
Belly: 36.5 (-.25 chg)
Waist: 36.75 (-0.25 chg)
Butt: 38.5 (-.25 chg)
Thighs: 20.75 (.0 chg)
Calves: 14 (-.25 chg)
Weight: 179.6 (-3.6 chg)
BF: 20.68 (-.0% chg)

So, it appears I have a lot more fat to go. 180 * .08 = 14.4 lbs fat to lose. So it looks like I will be in the 160's before I hit 12% BF. I'm not surprised really, since before I got fat I weighed 152 at my most muscular - after completing basic training in the army at age 18.

My plan is to increase my albuterol to 6 g tid, reduce the T3 to 100 mcg to help combat muscle loss, continue with Taurine at 5 gm, and increase my calories to 2000 cals per day.

**elpropiotorvic** · 03-27-2010, 06:29 AM

I wouldn't do caffeine man ... That's just me

**nunyabizness** · 03-27-2010, 07:03 AM

Day 13 Post Workout

Workout A: 55 mins, 158 avg bpm, 198 max hr oh my!, 808 cals burned. I got the shakes though, but feel fine otherwise. So caffeine + ephedrine + t3 + albuterol = bad. Don't try this at home kids!

So, I'm going to hammer home the protein today, calories be damned! I'm shooting for over 200g of protein.

**nunyabizness** · 03-28-2010, 06:00 AM

Day 14

Rest day, no workout. Intake will be mostly carbs today, and protein. Very little fat. I had no sides yesterday, slept well, everything seems fine. Took 100 mcg of T3 and 6 mg of Albuterol. I will take 6 mg of Albuterol two more times today, approx every 4 hours.

**nunyabizness** · 03-29-2010, 04:30 AM

Day 15

Workout B today. Plan is to attempt ramping up squats 215x1x5, 220x1x5, and 225x1x5, overhead press 125x1x5, 130x1x5, and 135x1x5, power cleans I will just do 135x3x5. I will attempt as many pullups as I can do.

Calorie wise I am going to attempt a 200 calorie deficit through exercise, and 300 through food. So that will be 500 per day instead of 1000. This should result in 2 lbs per week weight loss.

I will record calories in and exercise post-workout, as I may need to adjust my nutrition to make up for excessive calorie burn.

**nunyabizness** · 03-29-2010, 09:20 AM

Day 15 Post Workout

I can't keep this up. I made it through half squats at 215x1x5, then did 135x3x5, then did partials at 300 lbs x3x10. Then overhead press I did 125x1x3, and 95x3x5, and finally did power cleans 135x0, then 115x3x5. Too burnt out for pullups. I don't know if I'm weaker, feeling less confident, less endurance or a combination of all three.

Stats: 55 mins, 150 bpm avg, 180 max, 738 cals burned.

If any of the more experienced members could perhaps help me, I figure I need to develop a routine that utilize the least amount of work to hold onto what strength I have left. For example - how often do I need to do overhead presses, and how many, to hold onto my strength?

Cals 2333, Fat 69 g, Carbs 213 g (Fiber 25 g), Protein 223 g - exercise 738 cals = 1595 cals net.

**nunyabizness** · 03-30-2010, 07:17 AM

Day 16

Had T3 100 mcg OD, Albuterol 6 mg TID, Taurine 5 gm OD, and Keto 1 mg HS. Had the first dose of keto last night. Has to be the most bitter substance I have ever ingested. Wow. Slept no differently, up to the can twice during the night.

Went for blood work this morning, I expect my TSH will be out of whack lol, but I will be blaming that on a "hippie natural thyroid supplement" I've been taking to boost my thyroid after dieting for 15 months.

Not working out today as I used up my lunch hour going for the blood work. Calories are reduced today as a result.

Cals: 1973, Fat 45 g, Carbs 187 g (Fiber 15 g), Protein 187 g.

**nunyabizness** · 03-30-2010, 07:17 AM

Double post.

**big l** · 03-31-2010, 12:41 AM

How does the albuterol make you feel? I've only tried ephedrine. You don't feel shaky or nervous or anything. Just asking cause I'd like to try it but I hate the way ephedrine makes me feel and I'm wondering if the sides are the same.

**nunyabizness** · 03-31-2010, 04:00 AM

Originally Posted by big l

How does the albuterol make you feel? I've only tried ephedrine. You don't feel shaky or nervous or anything. Just asking cause I'd like to try it but I hate the way ephedrine makes me feel and I'm wondering if the sides are the same.

I'm up to 6 mg three times daily and don't feel any effects. thing. In fact - I wonder sometimes if it's actually working lol. I'll also add that I need to take about 24 mg of Ephedrine with 600 mg of Caffeine before I feel anything - I have a good tolerance. So your mileage may vary in regards to how the Albuterol hits you.

**nunyabizness** · 03-31-2010, 04:09 AM

Day 17

I downed the keto last night with a 1/3 cup of red Kool Aid. Just poured it down my throat for minimum contact. That seemed to work lol. No sides, slept well.

Today I'm on Albuterol 6 mg TID, T3 100 mg OD, Taurine 5 gm OD, and Keto 1 mg HS.

I'm revamping my workouts so that I have a five day split. I have 5 noon hours a week, so this shouldn't be an issue. I simply do not have the endurance to continue the SS program under these conditions.

Mon (Legs) Squats, Lunges, SL Deadlifts, and Standing Barbell Calf Raises.
Tues (Arms / Abs) CG Bench, Straight Bar Curls, Lying BB Extensions, Wrist curls both ways, ab wheel, incline situps.
Wed (Back) Deadlift, Rack Pulls, bent row, pull ups.
Thu (Shoulders / Traps) OH Press, Push Press, Power Cleans, Close Grip Upright Rows, heavy shrugs.
Fri (Chest / Abs) Bench, Incline DB Press, Decline DB Press, Ab wheel, incline situps.

I did this routine for a break a while back, and I didn't seem to lose any lifts while doing it.

Nutrition: Cals 2017, Fat 57 g, Carbs 170 g (Fiber 16 g), Protein 228 g.

**nunyabizness** · 03-31-2010, 09:24 AM

Day 17 - Post Workout

Did my back workout. Felt a lot better using this method today. I tackled my deadlift first, and was able to complete 285x1x6, rack pulls 300x2x6, bent over rows 140x3x6, pull ups 8. Overall I was pleased with my workout.

**nunyabizness** · 04-01-2010, 04:20 AM

Day 18

Sides: Up to the bathroom a lot last night.
Meds: T3 100 mcg OD, Albuterol 6 mg TID, Taurine 5 gm OD, Keto 1 mg HS.
Nutrition: Cals 1995, Fat 55 g, Carbs 162 g (Fiber 15 g), Protein 198 g
Workout: Plan is for Shoulders and Traps. OH Press 85x2x6 (slow, controlled), Push Press 105x2x6, Power Cleans 115x2x6, Close Grip upright rows 85x2x6, Behind the back shrugs 95x3x8.

I noticed between taking my second dose at 10 am, and my workout at 11 am that I became very warm. I'm hoping that's a sign that my receptors have cleared enough for the Albuterol to start making me warm.

Post workout: Workout went as planned. 43 mins, 150 bpm avg, 184 max, 580 cals burned. Felt good today, very hot!

Later on: I bought a thermometer and checked my oral temp. Despite the fact that I FEEL warm, my temp is only 36.4. That's just slightly under normal for me. (36.5 normal) Also, tried some heavy shrugs at home, 105x2x20, 175x1x6

**nunyabizness** · 04-02-2010, 06:53 AM

Day 19

Sides: None
Meds: T3 100 mg OD, Albuterol 6 mg TID, Taurine 5 gm OD, Keto 1 mg HS.
Nutrition: Cals 2485, Fat 57 g, Carbs 262 g (Fiber 25 g), Protein 234 g
Workout: I will be doing chest later today. I went for a training session this morning on power cleans, and estimate a 500 calorie burn from that - it was pretty intense. I won't bother to count my chest workout because the calorie loss won't be that great. So net cals are 1985 for today.