Mr.Rose's Cutting Log

[Mr.Rose]

Mr.Rose's 4 Week Cutter.

Currently i am cruising, but after the big gain in BF from my last blast, I think it's time to cut. Since I'm cruising and letting my receptors refresh, i think this is the best time to cut. Goal is to drop about 4-5kg of weight, hopefully all fat mass, hence the cycle designed below. But we will see. Also this cycle is aimed to woop diamonds ass, as we are both cutting now, but we all know I'll beat her Love you diamond. hehe. .


Stats:

Age: 20 Years Old
Height: 192cm (6'3.5" ft)
Weight: 118kg (260.2 lbs)
Body Fat: Estimated at around 10-11%. My local DEXA clinic cannot take me in for 3 weeks, so will obtain results at the end of week 4.
Past Cycles: 2


Drugs Being Used:

Testosterone Propionate (Anabolic steroid, Main use: cruise/maintain muscle) Home brewed, 150mg/mL
Triiodothyronine (Thyroid Hormone, Main use: Increase basal metabolic rate)
Clenbuterol Hydrochloride (Sympathomimetic amine, main course of action, β2 adrenergic agonist)
Albuterol (Main use: shorter acting β2 adrenergic adrenoreceptor agonist )
Ketotifen fumarate (H1 Antihistamine. Main use: β2 adrenoreceptor antagonist )
Anastrozole (Aromatase inhibitor. Main use: Estrogen Control )

Cycle:

Week (-)8-0 : Testosterone Propionate 150mg/ED
Week (-)8-0 : Trenbolone Acetate 100mg/ED <--- Grey Indicates blast cycle prior to current cruise/cut cycle.
Week (-)4-0 : Methandrostenolone50mg/2xED
Week 1-4 : Testosterone Propionate 50mg/ED
Week 1 : Triiodothyronine 50mcg/ED
Week 2-3 : Triiodothyronine 100mcg/ED
Week 4 : Triiodothyronine 50mcg/ED
Week 1 : Clenbuterol Hydrochloride 50mcg/ED
Week 2 : Clenbuterol Hydrochloride 100mcg/ED
Week 3-4 : Clenbuterol Hydrochloride 200mcg/ED
Week 1 : Albuterol 6mg/ED
Week 2-3 : Albuterol 12mg/ED
Week 4 : Albuterol 24mg/ED
Week 2-3 : Ketotifen fumarate 6mg/ED
Week 1-4: Anastrozole 0.5mg/ED

Estimated Daily Energy Consumption:

Week 1

Basal Metabolic Rate: 2850 calories
(Using The Cunningham Formula )
Daily Energy Expenditure Estimate: 500 calories (Resistance training) 500 calories (Fight training)
(Estimate was much more, but I'm being conservative)
Total Energy Expenditure Estimate: 1000 Calories (from training alone)
(Excluding daily other activities)
Estimated Daily Calorie consumption: 2800 calories
Estimated Calorie Deficient: -1050 calories
Predicted Daily Polypeptides: 350g
Predicted Daily Polysaccharides: 210g
Predicted Daily Lipids: 60g
Predicted Macronutrient Split: 50/30/20
Water Intake: Minimum 8L or 2 gallons a day.

Week 2 onwards:


Daily Energy Expenditure Estimate: 500 calories (Resistance training) 500 calories (Fight training)
(Estimate was much more, but I'm being conservative)
Total Energy Expenditure Estimate: 1000 Calories (from training alone)
(Excluding daily other activities)
Estimated Daily Calorie consumption: 2500 calories
Estimated Calorie Deficient: -1200 calories
Predicted Daily Polypeptides: 310g
Predicted Daily Polysaccharides: 180g
Predicted Daily Lipids: 55g
Predicted Macronutrient Split: 50/30/20
Water Intake: Minimum 8L or 2 gallons a day.

Supplements:

Multi Vitamins/Minerals, Calcium, Ascorbic Acid, Vitamin D, Vitamin B-Complex, Linseed Oil.

Blood and Urine Analysis:

MBA Profile

Sodium 138 nmol/L [135-145]
Potassium 5.1 nmol/L [3.5-5.5]
Chloride 101 nmol/L [95-110]
Urea 5.6 nmol/L [2.5-8.0]
Uric Acid 0.23 nmol/L [0.20-0.46]
Creatinine 79 umol/L [50-120]
Cholesterol 4.1 nmol/L [3.1-5.5]
Triglycerides 0.8 nmol/L [0.5-2.0]
T.Bilirubin 6 umol/L [1-30]
Protein (Total) 78 g/L [62-82]
Albumin 45 g/L [35-50]
Globulin 33 g/L [23-38]
Alk Phos 82 U/L [0-135]
CGT 23 U/L [0-50]
ALT 30 U/L [0-40]
AST 33 U/L [0-45]
Calcium (Total) 2.37 nmol/L [2.10-2.60]
Calcium (adjusted) 2.27 nmol/L [2.10-2.60]
Phosphate (inorganic) 1.25 nmol/L [0.80-1.60]

Glucose:

Fasting Glucose 4.70 nmol/L [3.0-5.5]
Random glucose 3.8 nmol/L [3.0-7.8]

Estimated Glomerular Filtration Rate - MDRD method

eGFR >95 mL/min1.73 m2

Full Blood Count

Hb 158 g/L [130-180]
Total WCC 8.9 10^9/L [4.0-11.0]
RCC 5.7 10^12/L [4.5-6.5]
Hct 0.47 g/L [0.38-0.54]
MCV 83 fL [80-97]
MCH 28 pg[27-32]
MCHC 333 g/L [320-260]
Plt 321 10^9/L [150-450]
Neutrophils 69% 6.1 [2.0-8.0]
Lymphocytes 21% 1.9 [1.0-4.0]
Monocytes 8% 0.7 [0.0-1.0]
Eosinophils 3% 0.3 [0.0-0.5]
Basophils 0% 0.0 [0.0-0.3]

Urine Chemistry
pH 7.5
Glucose -
Urobilinogen -
Blood -
Ketone -
Bilirubin -

Urine Microscopy
red blood Cells <10 10^6/L
White blood Cells 0 10^6/L
Epithelial Cells nil
Crystals not seen
Casts not seen

Urine Culture

No growth

Thyroid Function Test

TSH 0.41 mIU/L [0.30-5.50]

C-Reactive Protien

hsCRP 5.6 mg/L [0.1-8.0]

Erythrocyte Sedimentation Rate

ESR 7 mm/hr [1-20]

Hormones

Eostradiol 105 pmol/L [40-162]
Serum Prolactin 411 mIU/L [40-450]

Note on hormones: I did not test anything on DHEA and testosterone (free total bound) etc because I am currently running testosterone propionate, so its worthless.


Pictures

Camera: Omnia i900
Contrast adjust: Balance
Shadow highlights: 5%
Colour balance: Neutral

[Mr.Rose]

Day 1
Calories: 2732 - P/321 C/246 F/58
Macro Split: 47/36/17
Training: Rest
Sides: Light Headache, Extreme Hunger, Excessive thirst and dry mouth. Water drunk today 8L+ (2 gal)
Drugs Taken: Test prop 50mg, Anastrozol 0.5mg, Clenbuterol 50mcg, Triiodothyronine 50mcg
Injection Site: Left Delt, IM, 0.33mL, 23g 1"

Day 2
Calories: 2864 - P/365 C/239 F/57
Macro Split: 51/32/16
Training: 1hr Heavy Resistance, 1hr Fight Training
Sides: Light Headache, Extreme Hunger, Excessive thirst and dry mouth. Water drunk today 8L+ (2 gal)
Drugs Taken: Test prop 50mg, Anastrozol 0.5mg, Clenbuterol 50mcg, Triiodothyronine 50mcg
Injection Site: Right Delt, IM, 0.33mL, 23g 1"

Day 3
Calories: Something went wrong with my excel calculator today. It says 3060.5 calories, but only 304.24 protein, 244.05 carbs and 84.65 fat. Calories should be at 2870. Not sure if it is using fat at 8 calories per gram or at 9 calories per gram.
Macro Split: 48/39/13
Training: 1hr Heavy Resistance Training Only
Sides: Light Headache, Extreme Hunger, Excessive thirst and dry mouth. Water drunk today 8L+ (2 gal)
Drugs Taken: Test prop 50mg, Anastrozol 0.5mg, Clenbuterol 50mcg, Triiodothyronine 50mcg
Injection Site: Upper left thigh, SubQ, 0.33mL, 27g 0.5"

Notes: I am extremely hungry all the time. I can fight the urge easily, i have a lot of will power. Hunger is from dropping my calories from 6kcal to 2.8kcal over night. My body will adapt soon. Clen always seems to give me a headache for the first 3-4 days of use, then they are gone. Mostly it only lasts for an hour or two about 2 hours after intake. I can tolerate this, they should be gone soon.

[adzy]

Subbed, very, very solid log bro. You have obviously put a lot of thought and time into the preparation! Looking forward to see how it all goes.

[stevey_6t9]

steroids and 20 yrs olds tut tut lol.

i like your layout, abit like BJJ's but better and more simple.

your also shooting the prop subq?

[Mr.Rose]

Thanks adzy, what can I say us aussies reall know how to do shit right.

Woops my bad stevey, .

You can Thank BJJ for the inspiration for this log. That guy is a true inspiration.

Yup, i found a few studies showing that there is no difference in absorption time/amount between subQ and IM for low doses and for HRT patients.

Also extreme hunger is from dropping from 6000 calories a day 3 days ago to 2800 calories for this cut. Its a big drop and my appetite wants to kill me.

[MaNiCC]

Will keep checking in on Your progress, but you will always be a bitch squater

Hugs and Kisses

-MaNiCC-

p.s. Nice tag

[Mr.Rose]

Trust you Mannic. Every thread. I love it. haha.

Ps. I love the tags.

[Dukkit]

subscribed

why such a quick drastic drop in your cals?

why didnt you lower a little bit slower?

[Mr.Rose]

Thanks dukki. I was, but with only 4 weeks, the slower i go the more painful it will be because i have to increase the cut leangh, lol. I could increase the cut to 6 weeks. But I'm not a body builder, so BF doesn't matter too much to me, i just want a higher lean body mass to fat mass, hence the cutting every so ofter. I rarely go above 12% BF normally.

My body has been on 5000-6000 calories for around 18 weeks now, i like shocking it and shouting surprise! at the same time.

For this 4 weeks i want a break from food, and high dose AAS, shock my body, then in 4 weeks, give it all back. Hoping too see how such a tactic works on my body. If it doesn't do much good at all then i guess at least i can say i tried.

[Dukkit]

makes sense. i like it

[Diamond*K]

lol where r ur pics????

[Mr.Rose]

Pictures to come in the next few days, waiting for my brother to return my camera.

Right there hun.

[Mr.Rose]

For Stevey:

STABLE TESTOSTERONE LEVELS ACHIEVED
WITH SUBCUTANEOUS TESTOSTERONE
INJECTIONS
M.B. Greenspan, C.M. Chang
Division of Urology, Department of Surgery, McMaster University,
Hamilton, ON, Canada
Objectives: The preferred technique of androgen replacement
has been intramuscular (IM) testosterone, but wide
variations in testosterone levels are often seen. Subcutaneous
(SC) testosterone injection is a novel approach; however,
its physiological effects are unclear. We therefore investigated
the sustainability of stable testosterone levels using
SC therapy. Patients and methods: Between May and
September 2005, we conducted a small pilot study involving
10 male patients with symptomatic late-onset hypogonadism.
Every patient had been stable on TE 200 mg IM for
41 year. Patients were instructed to self-inject with
testosterone enanthate (TE) 100 mg SC (DELATESTRYL
200 mg/cc, Theramed Corp, Canada) into the anterior
abdomen once weekly. Some patients were down-titrated
to 50 mg based on their total testosterone (T) at 4 weeks.
Informed consent was obtained as SC testosterone administration
is not officially approved by Health Canada. T
levels were measured before and 24 hours after injection
during weeks 1, 2, 3, and 4, and 96 hours after injection
in week 6 and 8. At week 12, PSA, CBC, and T levels
were measured however; the week 12 data are still being
collected. Results: Prior to initiation of SC therapy, T
was 19.14+3.48 nmol/l, hemoglobin 15.8+1.3 g/dl, hematocrit
0.47+0.02, and PSA 1.05+0.65 ng/ml. During
the first 4 weeks, there was a steady increase in
pre-injection T from 19.14+3.48 to 23.89+9.15 nmol/l
(p¼0.1). However, after 8 weeks the post-injection T
(25.77+7.67 nmol/l) remained similar to that of week 1
(27.46+12.91 nmol/l). Patients tolerated this therapy with
no adverse effects. Conclusions: A once-week SC injection
of 50–100 mg of TE appears to achieve sustainable and
stable levels of physiological T. This technique offers
fewer physician visits and the use of smaller quantity of
medication, thus lower costs. However, the long term
clinical and physiological effects of this therapy need further
evaluation.

1: Saudi Med J. 2006 Dec;27(12):1843-6.Links
Subcutaneous administration of testosterone. A pilot study report.
Al-Futaisi AM, Al-Zakwani IS, Almahrezi AM, Morris D.

Department of Medicine, College of Medicine & Health Sciences, Sultan Qaboos University, Muscat, Oman. [email protected]

OBJECTIVE: To investigate the effect of low doses of subcutaneous testosterone in hypogonadal men since the intramuscular route, which is the most widely used form of testosterone replacement therapy, is inconvenient to many patients. METHODS: All men with primary and secondary hypogonadism attending the reproductive endocrine clinic at Royal Victoria Hospital, Monteral, Quebec, Canada, were invited to participate in the study. Subjects were enrolled from January 2002 till December 2002. Patients were asked to self-administer weekly low doses of testosterone enanthate using 0.5 ml insulin syringe. RESULTS: A total of 22 patients were enrolled in the study. The mean trough was 14.48 +/- 3.14 nmol/L and peak total testosterone was 21.65 +/- 7.32 nmol/L. For the free testosterone the average trough was 59.94 +/- 20.60 pmol/L and the peak was 85.17 +/- 32.88 pmol/L. All of the patients delivered testosterone with ease and no local reactions were reported. CONCLUSION: Therapy with weekly subcutaneous testosterone produced serum levels that were within the normal range in 100% of patients for both peak and trough levels. This is the first report, which demonstrated the efficacy of delivering weekly testosterone using this cheap, safe, and less painful subcutaneous route.

[Matt]

Good luck Mr Rose, i shall pretend i didnt see the age bit....

[ghettoboyd]

im in......good luck bro....

[number28]

Wow, this should be a lesson to us all on how to properly log cycle progress...I'm deff subscribed to this one...good luck mr.rose, keep em coming

[Mr.Rose]

Thanks matt. I haven't lied about my age in the past. You can see all my views on the subject matter at hand in my interview.

I was speaking with my primary doctors (2) and both agree that it's only a matter of a few years before I am officially diagnosed with symptomatic late-onset hypogonadism, i.e off cycle I have all the symptoms of low testosterone, and blood tests put me at a total test level of 11.67 nmol/L with a free test level of 275 pmol/L. Now officially to be diagnosed with symptomatic late-onset hypogonadism one has to have a total test level off 11 nmol/L or less and a free test level of 220 pmol/L. My low test levels are not from AAS use, they were that low before i started. So i bit the bullet, with proper PCT's and well planned cycles, i may only start HRT a year or two earlier. Still, you cannot comprehend how much my quality of life has increased with AAS, I no longer suffer depression and actually have a more positive outlook on life. That's all really care about.

Thanks ghetto and number28.

[stevey_6t9]

ill try sub-q, is there any info on the limitations of adipocytes recieving over 1cc at a time?

your free test wouldnt be 275 nmol/l im assuming you meant pmol/l?

also, make sure you dont tell your doc your trt is ASIH lol.

youve never touched the stuff

[Mr.Rose]

ill try sub-q, is there any info on the limitations of adipocytes recieving over 1cc at a time?

your free test wouldnt be 275 nmol/l im assuming you meant pmol/l?

also, make sure you dont tell your doc your trt is ASIH lol.

youve never touched the stuff

Not good i don't think. I have a massive red patch on my thigh where the crystals have come out of solution and not are sitting there causing pain.

I've dont up to a max of 2mL subQ of b-vitamis, ATP, vatami C, etc, jsut to name a few. It takes it well.

Whats steroids? I've never heard of the stuff. I'm just limp and depressed all the time.

[stevey_6t9]

Whats steroids? I've never heard of the stuff.

[Mr.Rose]

I doubt the doctor will pull out a metal pole and ride a BS flag on it.... though that would be cool.

[Mr.Rose]

Day 4
Calories: Something is defiantly wrong with my excel calculator. It says 2766.5 calories, but only 326.96 protein, 139.15 carbs and 78.82 fat. Calories should be at 2573.8 isf u use P = 4, C = 4 and F = 9.
Macro Split: 60/26/14
Training: 1hr Heavy Resistance Training Only
Sides: Light Headache, Excessive thirst and dry mouth. Water drunk today 8L+ (2 gal)
Drugs Taken: Test prop 50mg, Anastrozol 0.5mg, Clenbuterol 50mcg, Triiodothyronine 50mcg, Albutarol 6mg.
Injection Site: vastus lateralis on right thigh, IM, 0.33mL, 23g 1"
Notes: Hunger is completely gone, in fact now I'm full with only 2.8 kcal daily. That's a big change for me. Noticed a dramatic weight drop down to 115kg, I'm guessing that's the water retention from the drol/dbol. Much leaner too, bottom two abs returning, again must be the water retention.

[Mr.Rose]

Day 5

Body Fat Estimate Updated

Readings:

Triceps: 8 mm
Pectrorials: 8.5 mm
Midaxilla: 8 mm
Subscapulara: 11 mm
Abdomem: 15 mm
Suprailiac: 13 mm
Quadriceps: 13 mm

Weight: 115kg
Sex: Male
Age: 20
Sites: 7 site test

Results

Density: 1.0761
Lean Weight: 103.5441 kg
Fat Weight: 11.4558 kg
Fat %: 9.9615
Population Average: 16.415
Score: Excellent (86)

Notes: This test has been re-done by a University certified sports physician, and i have edited my results above.


Formulas used:

Jackson, A.S., Pollock, M.L. Generalized equations for predicting body density of men. British Journal of Nutrition. 40: 497&SHY;504, 1978.

[stevey_6t9]

bro cann the skinfolds, there for tafe certified personal trainers, 9/10 people dont use them correctly also.

wait for your dexa scan.

[BJJ]

Finally a solid log to study from... good call.

If I were you lol, I would care about my prolactin before the end of the current cutting period. It is really high...

Good Luck

[Mr.Rose]

How dare you stevey!

No i do them properly, trust me I have been doing them for a long time. Some times the partner i use can't put on the right pressure and the other cant separate the fat properly, but that test was done with two training partners of mine that have been doing it for a long time too, almost always our tests come back only 1-2% off from the dexa scan. But that test today was weird. Will repeat tomorrow and double check.

I think its from all the water flushing after my blast, the dbol put a lot on me.

[Mr.Rose]

Finally a solid log to study from... good call.

If I were you lol, I would care about my prolactin before the end of the current cutting period. It is really high...

Good Luck

Thanks BJJ, you can thank yourself for the inspiration. .

Yeh prolactin is high and am running prami to reduce it. Not a problem. I forgot to add im using prami, but since its not part of the 'cut cycle' i didnt include it.

[stevey_6t9]

Thanks BJJ, you can thank yourself for the inspiration. .

Yeh prolactin is high and am running prami to reduce it. Not a problem. I forgot to add im using prami, but since its not part of the 'cut cycle' i didnt include it.

soon you can start breast feeding with that prolactin rosie lol

[Mr.Rose]

SHIT! How did you get that pic of me??

Man I'm tanned.

[junkiescumbag]

in for this.

[MaNiCC]

Wheres The pictures of my bitch?

[Mr.Rose]

Pictures are up. Anyone want to guess my BF? Would you say around 10%. Calipers say 8.5%, i think BS.

[BJJ]

Definitely not 8.5%.
I guess 10% is correct.

You are HUGE lol!

[Mr.Rose]

Definitely not 8.5%.
I guess 10% is correct.

You are HUGE lol!

Thank you. . Lets see if i can hold my muscle with 350mg/week test while on 2500 calories.

Yes, i though so 10-12%. But calipers are pissing me off. I will borrow new ones from a friend and do it again tomorrow.

[Mr.Rose]

i just realized i hold a lot of fat in my thighs, i have like no definition their ...



When i flex i can see all my heads, but in my pictures i see none...

[BJJ]

^^^
That is why you are cutting.

[Mr.Rose]

Yup.

[Mr.Rose]

Day 5
Calories: 2687 . P-263/C-254/F-54
Macro Split: 46/45/9
Training: 1hr Heavy Resistance Training Only
Sides: Excessive thirst and dry mouth. Water drunk today 8L+ (2 gal)
Drugs Taken: Test prop 50mg, Anastrozol 0.5mg, Clenbuterol 50mcg, Triiodothyronine 50mcg, Albutarol 6mg, ketotifen 6mg (help me sleep)
Injection Site: vastus lateralis on left thigh, IM, 0.33mL, 23g 1"
Notes: I'm much leaner, but im loosing weight at an extraordinary rate, must be all the water retention.

[oldschoolfitness]

great read!! good luck with the cut bro. must be nice cutting when abs are already visible, especially the whole damn 6 pack

[Mr.Rose]

Thankyou. . I'm going for the whole eight pack, makes for more work and more money.