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    Fist Cycle - Expectations

    I am doing my first cycle.

    I am stacking Deca 250 with Sustanon 250, 1ml of each, once a week. I am currently at the end of my third week and have gained about 2.21 lbs in the three weeks. I was hoping for bigger gains by now. I have had no side effects of any kind. I was thinking of upping my dose to 2ml of each to see if I got better gains.

    Any advise, should I have seen better gains by now or is this result normal?

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    Welcome.

    Stats would help us a bit:

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    height
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    training experience
    diet
    plans with this cycle
    planned pct

    Bad choice for a novice cycle. Test only w/ a kicker as an optional add-in. Deca is not suitable for beginners like yourself.

    If you understood the compound a bit more you'd realize these hormones don't fully optimize until in or around weeks 4-5.

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    ^^^^not to mention the gear your taking is a long estered compound so it takes longer to kick in....most dont start to see gains for 4-5 weeks so give it more time not more gear...also your diet will determine how your gains go more so than the gear...

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    Thank you for advice.

    My Stats are;

    29 years old, 140ibs, 183cm tall, 15% bf, training 4-6 days per week, 7 years training experience.

    pct, I have test cream 10%, Novaldex tablets

    So would you recommend continuing on my cycle for 10 or 12 weeks?

    Also was thinking of adding Winstrol say in week 8 to get some definition. Advice?

    Thanks guys

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    7 years training and 140 lbs at 15% at 6'0? oh boy.

    Why would you use test cream in pct? its like any androgenic component and will shut you down, making your pct worthless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gymguy2010 View Post
    Thank you for advice.

    My Stats are;

    29 years old, 140ibs, 183cm tall, 15% bf, training 4-6 days per week, 7 years training experience.

    pct, I have test cream 10%, Novaldex tablets

    So would you recommend continuing on my cycle for 10 or 12 weeks?

    Also was thinking of adding Winstrol say in week 8 to get some definition. Advice?

    Thanks guys
    I really hope that's a typo, did you mean 240lbs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gymguy2010 View Post
    Thank you for advice.

    My Stats are;

    29 years old, 140ibs, 183cm tall, 15% bf, training 4-6 days per week, 7 years training experience.

    pct, I have test cream 10%, Novaldex tablets

    So would you recommend continuing on my cycle for 10 or 12 weeks?

    Also was thinking of adding Winstrol say in week 8 to get some definition. Advice?

    Thanks guys
    No. I recommend stopping the cycle completely, run a small PCT, then begin dialing down on a proper diet. You are way underweight for you height assuming the stats you have posted are correct.

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    Sorry typo, 77 1/2 kG, from Australia and we use kg insted of ibs. Got conversion wrong, 77 1/2 KG in ibs is about 169.75 ibs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gymguy2010 View Post
    I am doing my first cycle.

    Any advise, should I have seen better gains by now or is this result normal?
    eat more food? Good advice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gymguy2010 View Post

    pct, I have test cream 10%, Novaldex tablets
    Very poor PCT. You will not recover well with that at all. I highly doubt your going to stop your cycle but I encourage you to do so for your own safety. That said, research proper PCT immediatly and aquire the right compounds.

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    Can I ask Sector the reason you feel strongly about me stoping my cycle for my own safety??

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    you are still drastically underweight for your height, and the fact that you were considering using test cream during pct shows a lack of research that could prove detrimental.

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    very good :-)

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