J's Cycle Log

**J. Cole** · 07-19-2011, 05:48 PM

What do you guys think I should do in the event that my gear is either fake or horribly underdosed...

I know getting blood work is the only and best way to get 100% exact answers, but I dont have the time or money for that now so what do you guys think of the following options

There are three options I have:
1: Stop the cycle and do PCT just to be on the safe side
2: Finish my last 4 weeks with the current gear bc it is just probably severely underdosed and do normal PCT at the end of it
3: Finish my last 4 weeks with some different gear that I got from a more reputable source and do PCT at the end

Let me know what you guys think
-J

**J. Cole** · 07-19-2011, 07:48 PM

... double post my appologies

**auslifta** · 07-20-2011, 10:38 AM

How much are you paying for bloodwork?

**oldschoolfitness** · 07-22-2011, 03:45 AM

if it was me i would finish out and make the best of it. don't waste quality gear on a half ass cycle. save it for next go around. do a normal pct; or you could bridge for a few weeks and then start the quality stuff. i have run cycles b4 and not seen a noticeable amount of shrinkage until the very end, but the weight thing is a big question mark here you should have gained more. as lean as you are you should have good size increases.

**J. Cole** · 07-23-2011, 08:37 PM

Actually just checked my pins and I have been using 22g needles 1.5 inch my mistake...

I just did my week 7 shot and bumped it up to 2cc (500mg) so lets hope it kicks in because if I dont feel anything by week 8 this shit is getting the garbage can

-J

**J. Cole** · 07-24-2011, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by oldschoolfitness

if it was me i would finish out and make the best of it. don't waste quality gear on a half ass cycle. save it for next go around. do a normal pct; or you could bridge for a few weeks and then start the quality stuff. i have run cycles b4 and not seen a noticeable amount of shrinkage until the very end, but the weight thing is a big question mark here you should have gained more. as lean as you are you should have good size increases.

yeah thats basically what im going to do im going to take it to week 8 with the upped dosage to give it some more time and if nothing I will just run PCT and start a new cycle next summer.

all in all, if the gear is completely bunk, the positives are that I got more motivated with my diet, more motivated with working out, and got used to injections. so i cant be too disappointed with it all (I mean I am a little) but there are positives that came out of it

**oldschoolfitness** · 07-26-2011, 06:32 AM

have you gained any strength?? at least you have found some positive side my guess is you're prob right it is under dosed.

**J. Cole** · 07-27-2011, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by oldschoolfitness

have you gained any strength?? at least you have found some positive side my guess is you're prob right it is under dosed.

man I have not gained shit... I am up like 5 or 6 pounds but i think that is just a result of me training my ass off and bumping up the calories. And who knows maybe i got a tiny bit of the WHOPPING 5 pounds from a low dose of test haha but yeah there are positives in everything, now I am just ready to start a real cycle i want to blow up

**oldschoolfitness** · 07-29-2011, 06:31 AM

that does blow damn i would be ready to get it over with too. hang in there it will come. i hate you had a bad first cycle usually those are the best, but after a real good cycle you can scratch this one off the list lol.

**ghettoboyd** · 07-29-2011, 07:04 AM

i think peeps tend to expect to much from just a test cycle...yes test is great but since i started with a realy solid base like the op i now ususaly only gain 5-6 net lbs after a cycle...the only peeps that "blow up" are the ones stacking multiple compounds or the peeps that had no buisness cycling to begin with imho...my balls dont shrink when on cycle, i do not loose hair...i am one of the lucky ones so maybee the op is too so i wouldent use those symptoms as a bench mark for your gear being real/fake...i would just finnish up the cycle, do pct and then evaluate...one more thing you guys are not understsanting compleatly, although test dose shut down you natty test production you wont notice durring cycle cus you are replacing it with synthetic test so again not a good indicator if its real/fake...just throwing that out there...

**J. Cole** · 07-31-2011, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by ghettoboyd

i think peeps tend to expect to much from just a test cycle...yes test is great but since i started with a realy solid base like the op i now ususaly only gain 5-6 net lbs after a cycle...the only peeps that "blow up" are the ones stacking multiple compounds or the peeps that had no buisness cycling to begin with imho...my balls dont shrink when on cycle, i do not loose hair...i am one of the lucky ones so maybee the op is too so i wouldent use those symptoms as a bench mark for your gear being real/fake...i would just finnish up the cycle, do pct and then evaluate...one more thing you guys are not understsanting compleatly, although test dose shut down you natty test production you wont notice durring cycle cus you are replacing it with synthetic test so again not a good indicator if its real/fake...just throwing that out there...

you may be right, I did pretty much reach my natural potential with size and strength pre cycle. in that case, it may make sense that im only putting on 5 pounds also taking into consideration i have no bloat or water weight... i guess i really wont know if this gear was real or fake until i start my next cycle and see if there is a difference in gains, general wellness, or strength, because nothing changed with this cycle which still makes me believe its bunk. i feel i should have at least had a raging sex drive or just a general increase in well being

thanks for your input though definitely got me thinking
-J