20 Yr Old First Cycle - Test Prop/ Dbol

[pdp19]

This is my first cycle..

Im 20 years old 5'10 219lb and around 8% bodyfat.. (iv attached pics lol)
Bout 6 months ago I was going to start but held off, now feel much more comfortable with going through.

Arms - 18inch
Legs - 26.7inch
Calves 17.8inch

Some of my lifts include 530lb deads and 400lb squats for 8-10.
I eat literally 10-12 times a day.. always at least 40g of protein each meal.. I average approx 480g protein a day .. works for me , if I don't have it I feel staving. Up every night at 2am and 5am to have shake lol.. Train Very hard at the gym.

Cycle:
Test Prop 150mg EOD weeks 1-8
Dbol 20mg ED weeks 1-3
PCT Nolva and Clomid
.. Questions before I start.. Should I include the dbol? I CAN get hcg but was told by almost all it was unnecessary with this simple cycle.
First Injection starts today keep it posted..

[alexISthrowed]

Do you expect anyone to fall for this?

[pdp19]

DO u want to explain what this means? ^^

[OnTheSauce]

do you expect anyone to fall for this?

qft. +1

[Bingaz]

Lol !!!!!

[dooie]

Fark bro, I remember your first thread and I was like show some pics your a monster.
Regardless of age and use, which are what ppl are commenting on. You look amazing either way

[ovidiu31]

Is that really OP? Dont think so. If it is actually you why a need for aas you already have a crazy phisique.

[auslifta]

Thats insane vascularity for someone thats natural. It's reasonable for anyone here to assume you're full of shite, simply because it's an absolute rarity for someone to be in such awesome shape at age 20 natural. You're either a freak of nature that has real potential to make a living out of bodybuilding or full of shite. Take it as a compliment if your real, and if that is not you, I don't see what anyone could get out of playing such fantasy's on the net.
A simple way to prove everyone wrong would be to post up a pic of you holding sign saying "I'm pdp19" (not that it will tell us if you're natural)

[t-gunz]

**** your a beast.

drop the DBOL no need the prop will do the trick.

yeah mate if you can get the hcg use it. will help so much with recovery. and its obvious that you want that so you can maintain your gains.

bets of luck

[Times Roman]

Mate,
(shaking my head), at 20, regardless of your physique, you are still too young for a cycle. Hormonal system is still developing, and will continue to do so for the next few years. Mid 20's is when you will be ready.
Good luck!
---Roman

[pdp19]

WHy the hell are people calling me a liar???? THATS NOT ME ?? faaark

Last post peeps were saying BS because I had no pics,.... NOW i put pics and apparently its not me.
These sort of forums are designed to help out people and because im apparently 'too good' im a liar? Disrespectful ^^.

Anyway.. for the compliments Thanks broz !! means alot!

Today Was first pin.. hardly felt anything... Never had an injection in my life and was sweating but it was NOTHIN. Delt hurts now abit but nothing too bad.
Prob placebo but dam I felt so energetic and my calves still feel pumped lol.

Tommorow is Legs .. Cant wait!

[pdp19]

Thats insane vascularity for someone thats natural. It's reasonable for anyone here to assume you're full of shite, simply because it's an absolute rarity for someone to be in such awesome shape at age 20 natural. You're either a freak of nature that has real potential to make a living out of bodybuilding or full of shite. Take it as a compliment if your real, and if that is not you, I don't see what anyone could get out of playing such fantasy's on the net.
A simple way to prove everyone wrong would be to post up a pic of you holding sign saying "I'm pdp19" (not that it will tell us if you're natural)

I hear u mate.. Exactly what do I have to gain from posting fake pics???? no one knows me personally so... im not sure who it would benefit... I am very much natural .... prob why im asking about a 8 week prop cycle.. lol. On my next update pic i hold a sign. Not that I need to prove anything

[auslifta]

I will not advise you on cycle as I don't think you should be doing it. It's not too late to stop cycle. Keep going naturally and see how far your potential really is. That is not the cycle I'd have a first timer do either. Either way, good luck-I'll be watching. Are you starting a log or is this going to be it? Progress pics would be good.

[t-gunz]

see how the delt feels the next morning.

if it is sore. use a heat pad after injection this will help with next day pain.

u are young to cycle but least you can get support incase u need it

i dunno how you done but i cant belive how good you look at 20

can you post your training and diet? if you got time?

good luck

[little men]

you look awsome, exactly how i want to look, good work and good luck, i will be following, by the way im running prop now and it hurts so good luck again

[FONZY007]

Bro you look good naturally, keep going and you will keep gaining NATURALLY!!

I don't think you should be using at 20 yrs old, I'm on trt cuz I used at 20, your endo system hasn't fully developed.. Good luck cuz it seems like its to late to stop you...

But since you started drop all but just the test...

[alexISthrowed]

If you post a pic holding a sign that says "i'm pdp assholes" I'll give you all the help you want in regards to this cycle as long as you promise me you will compete. I still don't believe that's you for a second, prove me wrong.

[ajordana]

in on this thread for the pic.. if thats really you op, then damn.. applause, thats a retarded physique for anyone let alone 20 y/o natural.. definitely would like to see a pic with sign for proof.. very hard to believe the stats :O

[Standby]

in for the spoon pic

[pdp19]

Before I get onto today's events, last night was ODD.

Had a huge pump/pain in my left ankle and calve and wouldn't go away.. so hard to sleep. Finally subsided by midnight or so..

Also my delt was incredibly painful last night and this morning.. hard to move at all. Slightly better now.. is this normal?? where i injected (mid delt) is quite swollen, for example when I lift my arm horizontally, a particular muscle strand is pooping out quite noticeably.. its hard and hurts when touched. ??

Today was legs and man one of the worst. I tired out so easily, squatted 6 sets of 150-160 kg for 8-10 reps which is a 'weaker day' followed by leg press and lunges. Dont know whats up! Felt kinda bad throughout the workout. Guess my body is assimilating to new compounds?

Tomorrow morning is 2nd pin.. il try what was suggested and use a heat pad straight after. I don't feel any stronger or look diff.. obviously too early??

[pdp19]

in on this thread for the pic.. if thats really you op, then damn.. applause, thats a retarded physique for anyone let alone 20 y/o natural.. definitely would like to see a pic with sign for proof.. very hard to believe the stats :O

Next pic i put il hold a sign. lol feel like a criminal.

[little men]

Also my delt was incredibly painful last night and this morning.. hard to move at all. Slightly better now.. is this normal?? where i injected (mid delt) is quite swollen, for example when I lift my arm horizontally, a particular muscle strand is pooping out quite noticeably.. its hard and hurts when touched. ??

i get the same thing when injecting my delts, i find using voltarin anti inflammatory gel along with heat pad and massage after pinning helps abit, I also ice for 20 mins at a time throughout the day if i can and into the next day which also helps. prop is a bitch and hurts like hell. your muscles get used to it, the more i pin the easier it gets, did my left quad today with 100mg prop and its been about 9 hours and no discomfort at all for the first time on this cycle

if you dont mind post your diet and training routine.

[alexISthrowed]

Next pic i put il hold a sign. lol feel like a criminal.

Take it as a compliment.

[stevey_6t9]

Ill hold off my compliments until i see a pic of you holding a sign... but if it is you, you look unreal.

[pdp19]

Here to the lovely disbelievers.

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BTW done my second pin in left delt and now starting to really hurt.... my right isnet getting any better either (only been 2 days ).. Also im sniffling a bit... test flu right???

Cant really feel anything atm.. It kicks in day 7-10?

Far out delts hurt .. where should i pin if my right is still aching in 2 days time??

[dooie]

Here to the lovely disbelievers.

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BTW done my second pin in left delt and now starting to really hurt.... my right isnet getting any better either (only been 2 days ).. Also im sniffling a bit... test flu right???

Cant really feel anything atm.. It kicks in day 7-10?

Far out delts hurt .. where should i pin if my right is still aching in 2 days time??

Yeww!! Now what you need to do is take some relaxed shots so it's easier to see your progression over the cycle! It'll be hard when ur stretching and bent over etc! Will you keep this as ur log?

Do you have an ai on hand??

[bowldawg]

I don't know why you would want to change what your doing. I mean you've already got what 90% of us dream of. I understand the desire to push yourself and constanly improve. Anyway you should be proud of what you've built. Damn impressive.

[pdp19]

Yeww!! Now what you need to do is take some relaxed shots so it's easier to see your progression over the cycle! It'll be hard when ur stretching and bent over etc! Will you keep this as ur log?

Do you have an ai on hand??

Thanks Brotha, this will be a log ....

Yeah I have anastrozole but I prob wont need it right??

[pdp19]

I don't know why you would want to change what your doing. I mean you've already got what 90% of us dream of. I understand the desire to push yourself and constanly improve. Anyway you should be proud of what you've built. Damn impressive.

Thanks Mate, I want to do this as intelligently and safely as possible.

[pdp19]

Second pin today.... in left delt. This one hurt ALOT after 10 mins or so and is still so sore!!! I did heat and light massage but didnt help. Also my right delt from my first pin has developed a slight redness spanning from mid delt to bicep... no idea hope it isnt a bruise from injection or something?

Worked biceps today and was amaazaazing. Felt mad with great pumps. Vascularity was crayyyy!
Im also up almost 2kg and its only day 3?!??! IDK iv been eating alot as usual all good food so not sure what is causing it.

Iv also been taking one 20mg dbol pre workout.. worth it or not??

[dooie]

Thanks Brotha, this will be a log ....

Yeah I have anastrozole but I prob wont need it right??

U may not need the ai for estrogen sides, minimize water bloat, if your get sore nips etc. but at least you have one on hand!

What r ur plans bro?

[dooie]

Second pin today.... in left delt. This one hurt ALOT after 10 mins or so and is still so sore!!! I did heat and light massage but didnt help. Also my right delt from my first pin has developed a slight redness spanning from mid delt to bicep... no idea hope it isnt a bruise from injection or something?

Worked biceps today and was amaazaazing. Felt mad with great pumps. Vascularity was crayyyy!
Im also up almost 2kg and its only day 3?!??! IDK iv been eating alot as usual all good food so not sure what is causing it.

Iv also been taking one 20mg dbol pre workout.. worth it or not??

You won't need the dbol as the test prop is a short ester and ppl only really use it on their first cycle when they are on a longer estered test; such as E or C. Your weight gain is water bro! Test prop doesn't have mush water retention because of it short ester therefore it could be the dbol! How long have you been taking it for?(since the start of ur cycle, or only today?)

Ps a lot of ppl say test prop hurts haha

[alexISthrowed]

Second pin today.... in left delt. This one hurt ALOT after 10 mins or so and is still so sore!!! I did heat and light massage but didnt help. Also my right delt from my first pin has developed a slight redness spanning from mid delt to bicep... no idea hope it isnt a bruise from injection or something?

Worked biceps today and was amaazaazing. Felt mad with great pumps. Vascularity was crayyyy!
Im also up almost 2kg and its only day 3?!??! IDK iv been eating alot as usual all good food so not sure what is causing it.

Iv also been taking one 20mg dbol pre workout.. worth it or not??

All your injection sites are going to be throbbing considering you pinning prop and your hitting all virgin muscles. How many sites are you hitting? I don't think dbol pre workout is worth it at all, i'm impressed by the way. Do you have any plans on competing?

[TRT2010]

This is why guys who are in their teens and early early 20's should wait to do AAS. This is a freak of nature, I have never seen someone so ripped and packed with muscle in my life that is only 20 yrs old. You just need to stay the size you are and make a fortune being a calvin kleine model or some $hit. But then again you could have a sloth looking mug and thats why you work out so hard lol.... To all the teenagers reading. Just stop and look and see what training and eating can do for you. No postings saying im 18, hard gainer, eat alot and i cnt gain weight and i need steroids

[Standby]

your a freak and you disgust me and i hate you. that is all.







goo dluck on your cycle. cant wait to see the finish

[pdp19]

You won't need the dbol as the test prop is a short ester and ppl only really use it on their first cycle when they are on a longer estered test; such as E or C. Your weight gain is water bro! Test prop doesn't have mush water retention because of it short ester therefore it could be the dbol! How long have you been taking it for?(since the start of ur cycle, or only today?)

Ps a lot of ppl say test prop hurts haha

Yeah just 20mg dbol for 3 days so far... Might cut it out . Everyone tells me test and dbol are one of the most effective combo . It is debilitating haha and I can take pain but this is something else lol

[pdp19]

This is why guys who are in their teens and early early 20's should wait to do AAS. This is a freak of nature, I have never seen someone so ripped and packed with muscle in my life that is only 20 yrs old. You just need to stay the size you are and make a fortune being a calvin kleine model or some $hit. But then again you could have a sloth looking mug and thats why you work out so hard lol.... To all the teenagers reading. Just stop and look and see what training and eating can do for you. No postings saying im 18, hard gainer, eat alot and i cnt gain weight and i need steroids

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Appreciate the kind words, can't agree with u more in regards to guys taking gear without a solid base of natural muscle. Eating and training right CONSISTANTLY can do wonders.

[dooie]

Yeah just 20mg dbol for 3 days so far... Might cut it out . Everyone tells me test and dbol are one of the most effective combo . It is debilitating haha and I can take pain but this is something else lol

Oh they are effective, but 20mg per workout probably won't be of much use! It's probably a placebo effect!
Bro you have to log how and what you train each day and your diet!! Id be very interested to know how you got such a good base at your age!

[pdp19]

All your injection sites are going to be throbbing considering you pinning prop and your hitting all virgin muscles. How many sites are you hitting? I don't think dbol pre workout is worth it at all, i'm impressed by the way. Do you have any plans on competing?

I really just want do do delts , its so painful. I can't even lift my ARM horizontally. Cheers glad u realised I was not bullshitting. Yeah I competed once earlier in 2011 and won .

[little men]

hit your quads, no way you can do delts only with prop you wont be able to train soon go to s p o t i n j e c t i o n s . c o m