12 week cycle of SUST/TREN ACE/ANAVAR/ARIMIDEX/NOLVADEX/T3

[wisephil]

Hello everyone! This is my cycle, i need some opinions, any suggestions are more than welcomed.
I am planning to start in february
I took this picture about a week ago, but i will be taking more pics before i start on this cycle.

I have been taking peptides for 2 weeks now and this is the cycle I'm running for peptides.
Sun- 250mcg pegmgf
Mon-40mcg igf
Tues-40mcg igf
Wed-40mcg igf
Thurs-250mg pegmgf
Fri-40mcg igf
Sat- off

Okay this is what my 12 week cycle is going to be like. Included are ( sust 250, tren ace, anavar , arimidex , nolvadex , provorin, hgc)


1-4 week
Sust-500mgs
tren -300mgs
Anavar 50mgcs
Arimidex
nolvadex

4-8 week
sust-700mgs
Tren-400mgs
Anavar -50mgs

8-10 week
sust-800mgs
Tren-500mgs

10-12
sust-1000mgs

14-week
hgc-2500mgs
nolvadex
Proviron

15-week
hgc-1500 mgs
nolvadex
Proviron

16-week
500 mgs
nolvadex
Proviron

17-20
nolvadex
Proviron


Sun- 250mcg pegmgf
Mon-40mcg igf
Tues-40mcg igf
Wed-40mcg igf
Thurs-250mg pegmgf
Fri-40mcg igf
Sat- off


Day 1: Upper Body (Low reps/ High reps for shoulders only)
Bent over rows
3 sets of 3-6 reps
Weighted Pull ups
2 sets of 6-10 reps
Lat Pull downs
2 sets of 6-10 reps
Flat dumbbell presses
3 sets of 3-5 reps
Weighted dips
2 sets of 6-10 reps
Seated dumbbell shoulder presses
3 sets of 8-12 reps
Cambered bar curls
3 sets of 6-10 reps
Upright Rows
3 sets of 12-15 reps
side lateral raised 15-20 reps
Day 2: Lower Body Power Day
Squats
3 sets of 3-5 reps
Hack Squats
2 sets of 6-10 reps
Leg extensions
2 sets of 6-10 reps
Stiff legged deadlifts
3 sets of 5-8 reps
Glute ham raises
2 sets of 6-10 reps
Standing calf raise
3 sets of 6-10 reps
Seated calf raise
2 sets of 6-10 reps
Day 3: 45min Cardio

Day 4: Shoulders & Back ( Low/high Reps)
Seated dumbbell presses
3 sets of 3-6 reps w/65%-70 3-6 rep max
Upright rows
2 sets of 6-19 reps
Side lateral raises with dumbbells or cables
3 sets of 8-12 reps
Bent over
3 sets of 8-10 reps w/65-70% l 3-6 rep max
Lat pull downs
3 sets of 8-12 reps
Seated cable row
3 sets of 8-12 reps
superset- Smith Machine rows/plate shrugs
2 sets of 12-15 reps
Close grip pulldowns or close grip pull ups
2 sets of 15-20 reps
Day 5: Lower Body (High reps)
Lower Body Power Exercise speed work: Squats
3 sets 8-10 reps with 70% of normal 3-6 rep max
Hack squats
3 sets of 8-12 reps
Leg presses
2 sets of 12-15 reps
Leg extensions
3 sets of 15-20 reps
Romanian deadlifts
3 sets of 8-12 reps
Lying leg curls
2 sets of 12-15 reps
Seated leg curls
2 sets of 15-20 reps
Standing calf raises
4 sets of 10-15 reps
Seated calf raises
3 sets of 15-20 reps
Day 6: Chest and Arms (High Reps)
Flat dumbbell presses
3 sets 8-10 reps 70% of normal 3-5 rep max
Hypertrophy pressing movement: Incline dumbbell presses
3 sets of 8-12 reps
Hypertrophy pressing movement: Hammer strength chest press
3 sets of 12-15 reps
Hypertrophy fly movement: Incline cable flyes
2 sets of 15-20 reps
preacher curls
3 sets of 8-12 reps
Db concentration curls
2 sets of 12-15 reps
Spider curls
2 sets of 15-20 reps
Seated tricep extension with cambered bar
3 sets of 8-12 reps
Cable press-downs
2 sets of 12-15 reps
Cable kickbacks/dumbbell kickbacks.
2 sets of 15-20 reps


My diet:
500 calories over maintenance on training days carbs 50/protein 30/ fats 20
maintenance calories on my non training days. 40/40/20
I take 80 grams of dextrose after my workouts/40 grams of protein


Is this good to go? any suggestions would be more than appreciated, thanks.

[wisephil]

Anyone? )

[JonnyConcrete]

What are your stats bro? Also have you done any previous cycles?

If you haven't then I wouldn' use such a complicated cycle for your first 2-3 cycles. Just plain test and maybe a simple kick start will suffice.

[wisephil]

This is my first cycle to be honest, but a friend of mine did this for his first cycle.
He had no problems what so ever, everything went great and he got amazing results.

I am 5'10
170
BF 10%

I am 21, i have been training since i was like 15 or 16.
Eating good since i was like 17, but have had to stop training several times due to bad hams.
I am pretty strong for being natural, please any suggestions are appreciated.
I think what i need help is on my diet, since it is the most important thing to have on check.

[wisephil]

I am 5'10
170
BF 10%

[FONZY007]

Why are you pyramiding you AAS, I personally think its much. I would just stay at 500 mg of sustanon only run hcg say from week three up until oct at maybe 500ius 3 times a week to keep the boys healthy...

Wait what? Your only 21!! If I was you I wouldn't even start... Bro I was 20-21 years old when I did deca , sustanon, and Tren and I fvcked up my endo system and currently I am on trt ( test replacément therapy ) for life and I'm 30 years old. I would just keep hitting the weights, eat right and wait a few years guarantee you will be like 190-200 when ready to use AAS and you would of made a great base to work with.. Please think twice bro, DON'T USE AAS YET!!!

[wisephil]

Well i was 185 like 6 months a go so injured my hams and i dropped like 20 pounds.
and now I'm back like in my 170's 173 to be exact.
And i heard you shouldn't run hcg for more than 2-3 week period?
and well i was just going to start at 500 mgs of sustanon /300 of tren ace for 4-6 weeks and then maybe just increased the dose to 750mgcs of sustanon/400 tren if everything is going well.
I have everything ready and i was told to use nolvadex , prov and hcg for pct. Hcg for 2-3 weeks and nolvadex/prov for at least 6 weeks.

[FONZY007]

Well don't use the hcg during pct, use it before!! Read up on some stickies here regarding HCG and the usage, I believe swifto hits it on the head..

[grumpee]

To young and that cycle is way more than any one needs for their first cycle. I would personally wait a few years and run a test only cycle.

[wisephil]

Well now I'm confused.....some people tell me not to run it during cycle, to run it for pct. While others tell me the opposite?
Is there any reason to run hcg during cycle and not pct? what would my pct be then?
my friend ran this cycle, maybe a little diff with insane results.
And i already have everything?? so it would be easier to just do it.

[wisephil]

I have a few questions.
1. Do you recommend taking arimidex and nolva during my cycle or only arimidex?
2. Do i need to run cabaser? or should i just get some and keep it by my side in case i start noticing some side effects from tren ?
3. should i run hcg during or after cycle? 14 days after my last shot of sust....for 3 weeks.
4. should i run nolvadex /clomid and or aromarisin/nolvadex or proviron /nolva along hcg for pct, but run it for 3 weeks after hcg?
5. I think i might just stick to 500 sust/300 tren for the first 4 weeks. then if everything goes good do 600 sust/tren 300, then if everything is still good do (which i hope it is) do 750 sust/ tren 400...sust for until week 12 and tren until week 10.
6. any suggestions on my pct?
7. i will also be running var for 6-8 weeks at 5 tabs of 10mgs a day.

[wisephil]

My final cycle, let me know what ya'll think. I wanted to have everything in check before i started. Even though pct comes after cycle, for me its better to have a PCT planned before even starting.
Why? Because what if you have to stop, you need to be ready at all times. This is what I'm planning for my first cycle.

Week Sust Tren A Var Adex
1-4 500mgs/week 300mgs/week 50mgs/week 12.5/day
4-8 750mgs week 400mgs/week 50mgs/week 12.5/day
8-10 750mgs/week 400mgs/week none 12.5/day
10-12 750mgs/week none none 12.5/day



For my PCT i will use a SERM & AI along with hcg and vitamin E. Switching my AI from adex to aromasin , why? because i've read in books/sites hcg stimulates a surge in testosterone causing an estrogen issue. So you have to use an AI along with nolvadex , but nolvadex reduces the effectiveness of adex/letro. Therefor it is better to use Aromasin for pct along with nolvadex to help with help with estrogen issue of hcg. It is better to be safe then sorry ?!?! F*** yeah whats the point of big/strong muscles if you're going to be left with a small/weak penis.......hahaha.
week 1-3
Nolvadex 20mgs/day
Hcg 500mgs/day
Aromasin 20mgs/day
Vitamin 1000ui/day

Week 4
Nolvadex 20mgs/day
Aromasin 20mgs/day

week 5-6
nolvadex 20mgs/day