First cycle

[ohigetit]

Hey guys I'm 6 weeks into my first cycle and so far the results are far beyond expectations.

500mg/mon morning, thurs nite weeks 1-10
40mg dbol ED/ week 1-4

Started at 205 and around 18% at 6'0 which is a bit high but had a complete physical beforehand and everything was perfect including BP

So far I'm weighing in at 222. Added 1" to my biceps, 4" to my chest, have not gained an inch on my waist. BP is elevated but not bad, no water retention, small bit of acne but has cleared now. Have AI on hand just in case and pct is sitting in the drawer ready to go. Some ppl on here have said that with a bf above 15-17 u won't see anything but personally I have so far. I'll be posting beginning and mid cycle pics in a few mins

[HawaiianPride.]

Of course you can hit benefits at 15%+, you just run a higher risk of encountering negative side effects on a person carrying more adipose tissue than a person not. Typically the fatter you are, the more you tax your organs, blood values, cholesterol, estradiol, ect. It's not rare to not encounter anything wrong along the way, you are just less likely to without all the extra stress. Glad to hear your cycle is treating you well.

[ohigetit]

Attachment 124572Ok so here's a few pics



About two weeks before beginning of cycle

the thumbnail was 4 weeks into cycle

[ohigetit]

Ok so here's a few pics

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About two weeks before beginning of cycle

6 weeks into cycle

[ohigetit]

Ok finished my cycle 3 weeks ago. Had to cut it a little short but I'm happy with everything. Learned alot from my first and everyone is asking how I'm getting so big. I just tell them lots of protein and a good diet

[ANIMAL]

You could have transformed yourself with proper diet and nutrition before jumping into gear. Everyone is always looking for the quick and easy way out. Educate yourself and spend some more time in the gym before doing another cycle if you are even thinking about it. Get a better foundation going.

[ohigetit]

I have a proper understanding about my nutrition. I have a diet set up, it just wasn't my time. As far as a transformation I dropped 4% BF, added almost 2" to my arms, 4" to my chest. It's just between a job, a wife, and a one year old it got hard to keep my gym schedule. If you don't think I made progress maybe you should look at all of these pics.

[ohigetit]

And as far as taking a quick way out you have no idea what my lifting history or diet history is so don't assume I jumped into this half assed. Sometimes shit happens and things get ****ed up. I planned my cycle, my diet, and my schedule way in advance and I asked alot of questions and got alot of tips from people with experience. Don't assume anything about anyone

[ANIMAL]

And as far as taking a quick way out you have no idea what my lifting history or diet history is so don't assume I jumped into this half assed. Sometimes shit happens and things get ****ed up. I planned my cycle, my diet, and my schedule way in advance and I asked alot of questions and got alot of tips from people with experience. Don't assume anything about anyone

There is no assuming. You put up a picture of your before that looks like you've never been inside a gym before. Don't get mad when you put something on a public forum and people are trying to reach out to you to tell you, you would have seen MUCH better results have you had a better starting foundation and knowledge of the game. You can drop BF without gear all naturally. IMO, gear should only be used to get to the next level after reaching the top, and if we were playing mario, you'd be at level 1 before you hit the ? for the mushroom.

Enjoy your day.

[ohigetit]

Actually I was in the gym constantly until my motorcycle accident. I shattered my collar bone and it took almost two years of physical therapy just to get enough function in my right shoulder to be able to throw a baseball without agonizing pain. So it is what it is. And just for the record I dropped 30 lbs before I decided to try gear. I trained for a year and ran and completed my first 5k then moved on to a 10 and then a half marathon. But that's my bad for not saying that, gear isn't a quick answer for me its just a stepping stone on the path to a greater purpose. When you can get out and run 13 miles without stopping talk to me about fitness. I studied my ass off before I even decided to pick up a pin. I had a physical before and after and made sure my body could handle what it was about to go through. I may not have alot of posts here but I'm far from stupid and to be honest I just don't care about your opinion. I will let the people who are asking me what I'm doing speak for my results

[MercuryEvo]

I am by far no hypocrite and Definitely Don't diet the way I should BUT that being said, I Admit that 150%.

You my friend def gained muscle but you look like you gained fat as well. Not sure where you're getting your BF% from, but around your abdomen and chest you looked to have gained fat. You COULD be dieting much better. B23 is correct to say that you could use a better diet and better starting point to see better results.

And what were you taking 500mg of? Even though it was only 10 weeks, did you run HCG during at all? I would have done that as well to keep from HPTA shutting down completely.

[ANIMAL]

Actually I was in the gym constantly until my motorcycle accident. I shattered my collar bone and it took almost two years of physical therapy just to get enough function in my right shoulder to be able to throw a baseball without agonizing pain. So it is what it is. And just for the record I dropped 30 lbs before I decided to try gear. I trained for a year and ran and completed my first 5k then moved on to a 10 and then a half marathon. But that's my bad for not saying that, gear isn't a quick answer for me its just a stepping stone on the path to a greater purpose. When you can get out and run 13 miles without stopping talk to me about fitness. I studied my ass off before I even decided to pick up a pin. I had a physical before and after and made sure my body could handle what it was about to go through. I may not have alot of posts here but I'm far from stupid and to be honest I just don't care about your opinion. I will let the people who are asking me what I'm doing speak for my results

I am not even going to get into this post. You have a lot to learn. You shouldn't be so closed minded from people that have been there, have results and knowledge. Just because you put on the cape, doesn't make you a super hero.

Hope everything works out for you.

[ohigetit]

I'm not closed minded and I'm listening to the advice of everyone on here and the people around me that cycle as well. As far as the picking up fat well maybe I did but I have been taking weekly measurements and my waist measurement has not Increased. Like I said my arms and chest have increased along with thighs and calves. And I have had my body fat measured at my gym before and after my cycle. Yes I look bulkier but I know my body and if I have gained fat, for some reason all of my clothes just don't happen to fit anymore along with my belts. I'm not knocking anyone here but don't flame people of you don't know the full story. And as far as hcg well some people take it and some people don't that's just how it is. I had no adverse reactions BESIDES an increased BP which subsided. I'm not another one of these idiots who stuck them self before asking. And just for the record instead of saying don't do another cycle until you learn more
A. I spent months researching cycles, building cycles, half lives, short esters, long esters, and countless other things
B. nobody can say that they didn't learn from their first cycle. At least I did a correct test and dbol cycle with my proper pct.
C. I watch these forums and most of these people flame a guy just for asking questions about pinning "do more research before you cycle". Well think about it you weren't the least bit nervous about pinning yourself the first time. Instead of telling people to go do research how about actually guide someone. Anabolics can be very complicated and most first timers just need a little positive reassurance. A little goes a long way. In the end I respect that you guys are dogging me about this but I feel that I made improvements and considering what I have done in this amount of time I am happy and that's all that really matters. To you I may not have improved but you don't look at me every day, I do. I have more confidence and I don't feel like a fat slob anymore. Just some kind of credit would be nice, at least a "hey not bad but next time do this differently or add this". Don't assume anything. Everyone had to start somewhere, some of us are just take a bit more work than others

[Full_Auto]

rock on bro.....diet clean for a while and work out the best you can. the more you do natty, the better a cycle will help you improve. clean diet will help you melt that body fat. i'm in the process of getting my BF down before going on cycle myself. some people can only go so far natty, so they try a cycle to see if it will push them along a bit, and usually (with proper AI & PCT) it does. everybody on these forums always tell people to "do more research" and flame them out immediately. especially if you aren't already ripped. what they don't realize is the OP is trying to do exactly that, RESEARCH & LEARN....what does that person get?? flamed out.

so how can you research & learn when everybody just tells you you're a douche?? sure, they offer plenty of help....to people who are already gorilla's and really don't need it. the ones that authentically need the help aren't worthy to them, u know, cuz they have lives and can't live in the gym.

[ANIMAL]

I'm not closed minded and I'm listening to the advice of everyone on here and the people around me that cycle as well. As far as the picking up fat well maybe I did but I have been taking weekly measurements and my waist measurement has not Increased. Like I said my arms and chest have increased along with thighs and calves. And I have had my body fat measured at my gym before and after my cycle. Yes I look bulkier but I know my body and if I have gained fat, for some reason all of my clothes just don't happen to fit anymore along with my belts. I'm not knocking anyone here but don't flame people of you don't know the full story. And as far as hcg well some people take it and some people don't that's just how it is. I had no adverse reactions BESIDES an increased BP which subsided. I'm not another one of these idiots who stuck them self before asking. And just for the record instead of saying don't do another cycle until you learn more
A. I spent months researching cycles, building cycles, half lives, short esters, long esters, and countless other things
B. nobody can say that they didn't learn from their first cycle. At least I did a correct test and dbol cycle with my proper pct.
C. I watch these forums and most of these people flame a guy just for asking questions about pinning "do more research before you cycle". Well think about it you weren't the least bit nervous about pinning yourself the first time. Instead of telling people to go do research how about actually guide someone. Anabolics can be very complicated and most first timers just need a little positive reassurance. A little goes a long way. In the end I respect that you guys are dogging me about this but I feel that I made improvements and considering what I have done in this amount of time I am happy and that's all that really matters. To you I may not have improved but you don't look at me every day, I do. I have more confidence and I don't feel like a fat slob anymore. Just some kind of credit would be nice, at least a "hey not bad but next time do this differently or add this". Don't assume anything. Everyone had to start somewhere, some of us are just take a bit more work than others

"Some of us take a bit more work than others." But you haven't put in the work, and I'm not assuming, I'm looking at your before pictures. We aren't here "dogging" you because your cycle was bad, or your diet was bad, or your training was bad. Everything as a whole, the way you went about it should have been done differently. The human body can be taken to levels we can't even get to because we don't work hard enough for it. I am giving you advice because I WAS IN THE SAME BOAT as you thinking steroids would do all the work for me and if I ate decent, lifted decent I'd be ok. That's NOT how things work. You need a stable foundation to work with. It's like building a car. You can have a shit motor and throw a turbo on it, will it be faster? Yea. Do you have a better chance of blowing it up because you didn't build a proper platform before hand? Yea. Build the engine to HANDLE the turbo just like you build your body to HANDLE steroids.

Did you see improvements from doing a cycle? Of course you did, there's no reason why you wouldn't. But if you put in the work prior to (not even reading your life story, that doesn't matter) you would have seen extraordinary results. Don't tell people that have been there and have reached the level that you want to be that you didn't take steroids thinking it would take some of the hard work necessary out of the equation.

rock on bro.....diet clean for a while and work out the best you can. the more you do natty, the better a cycle will help you improve. clean diet will help you melt that body fat. i'm in the process of getting my BF down before going on cycle myself. some people can only go so far natty, so they try a cycle to see if it will push them along a bit, and usually (with proper AI & PCT) it does. everybody on these forums always tell people to "do more research" and flame them out immediately. especially if you aren't already ripped. what they don't realize is the OP is trying to do exactly that, RESEARCH & LEARN....what does that person get?? flamed out.

so how can you research & learn when everybody just tells you you're a douche?? sure, they offer plenty of help....to people who are already gorilla's and really don't need it. the ones that authentically need the help aren't worthy to them, u know, cuz they have lives and can't live in the gym.

You newbie's are so quick to think we are yelling and belittling you when you're asking questions. It's not that, but when we have been there and back, learned, we know the answers to tell you. It's you, the newbie, who get butt hurt when you don't hear us telling you yea do 1000mg of cyp and deca 5 times a week, when you're at 35% BF or you're 6'7 weighing 100lbs.

You only learn by experience through trial and error, I agree! But there is NO WAY you have experimented with vitamin shop supplements and nutrition to get your body any where near ready to start using gear. Because you hit the gym and don't look like the huge guy next to you, you automatically assume he's on juice, when he could be hitting the gym hard for years, nutrition on point for years and he has 100% dedication.

Newbie's need to stop getting butt hurt when we "flame" you to do more research, because the way you talk and come off makes you sound thick headed and immature. The only way you're going to learn is to experiment, fail, fall on your ass and then get back on your feet.

After my first cycle I've ever done I took 4 years off and just researched, asked questions and waited until I had the right foundation to start with and all the knowledge one could possibly have. I'm sure I left stuff out I wanted to say, but I feel like I'm just getting repetitive.