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    Summer Test E-500

    Hey everyone I'm pretty new to the forum here but I've been reading it for some time now.
    So I've already started my cycle of test e 250 twice a week.

    Stats 24 yo
    5'11''
    Start weight 207
    Lifting exp 4 years

    Two weeks before the cycle i really cleaned up my diet. This is my diet on a daily basis

    Morning shake 100g oats
    2 scoops protein
    250ml egg whites
    250ml berries
    Natural peanut butter
    Spoon of fish oil
    Vit c
    Animal pak


    Meal 2
    200g chicken
    150g rice
    50 g veg

    Meal 3
    1 scoop waxy maize
    3 scoops protein

    Meal 4 same as 3 with creatine

    Meal 5 same as 2

    Meal 6 night time shake 2 scoops of protein and fish oil

    Additional supplements
    -preworkout
    -bcaa's
    -animal pak
    -fish oil
    -protein
    -creatine
    -lots of water

    So far the cycle is going well, I'm three pins in weight has increased to 211.5 but that's most likely because of the diet.
    No problem with pins ( I usually get my buddy to do them )
    Mood good
    Libido down a little (not that bad though)
    Nips have gotten a little sensitive, they feel a little sore sometimes. Might start taking arimasin 10mg everyday, I read swifts post. What do you guys think.

    Going to start doing more cardio as well soon.

    I'll post more about my workouts and weights when I have a chance

    Let me know if anybody has any suggestions

    Thanks !

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    good luck man! its seems like you and i are alot alike on all this shit, im about to pin my 3rd tomorrow! i'll be sure to follow your progress. Good luck with it!

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    welcome.

    too many shakes not enough macros from real food.

    what are you goals? bulk, cut?

    run your ai now. don't wait for sides!

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    Alrighty took awhile for my thread to come up.

    Started taking the aromasin 12.5 ED. Sides have gone away pretty much, I find it's giving me headaches though. It's not that bad

    Workout on sat was the following

    Aroma 12.5
    Weight 211.5

    Smith machine front press 50'sx10x3
    Seated DB lat 35x12x3
    DB upright row 40x10x3
    Rear delts 160x12x3
    Shrugs 85x15x3
    Calves press 4px3xfail
    Calve press max weightx3xfail
    Abs

    P=plates
    Libido going up
    Mood good

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox
    welcome.

    too many shakes not enough macros from real food.

    what are you goals? bulk, cut?

    run your ai now. don't wait for sides!
    Meal 3 is pre workout
    Meal 4 is post workout

    It's hard getting all that real food in ya! But you're right I should be Eating more REAL food...
    Sometimes if I have more time I'll substitute meal 3 for a real one.

    AI is on the go ! I don't want to take any chances

    This is my first cycle btw

    Goals.. Not really sure yet( that sounds bad )
    Probably just work on my weak points and gain some mass, then cut
    My buddy and I are training together, he wants to compete eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by infantry13
    good luck man! its seems like you and i are alot alike on all this shit, im about to pin my 3rd tomorrow! i'll be sure to follow your progress. Good luck with it!
    Nice man!
    4 th pin for me tomorrow!
    Good luck to you too man

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    250E
    12.5 Aro
    Weight 213 increase of 2 lbs since sat

    Quads/Hams

    Squats 12x1px2
    225x10x2
    205x10
    Leg press 8x7px1
    8x6px2 (deep)
    Leg extension 10x255x3
    Lunges (superset) 35x8x3
    Lying leg curl trip drop set 145 100x85x9x1
    100x10
    P= plate

    Pin went well
    Mood good, energy levels high
    No gyno
    Felt a little stronger on leg day

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    Arms
    Workout on Tuesday
    12.5 Aro
    Weight 213

    Seated DB curls 45x45x45x10
    Scull crusher 40x40x40x10
    Machine hammer preacher 35x10x3
    Overhead rope extension 75x15x3
    Cable press down max weight 10x3
    DB hammer 55x10x3
    Ab workout x15x3

    Weds off

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    Chest/abs
    250E
    Aro 12.5
    Weight 215

    Flat bb press 1p+25x15
    225x12, 235x10, 245x7
    Calve press maxx3xfail
    Incline DB press 80x12x3
    Machine press max 220x11x3
    Calve press 5p, max rep x fail
    Decline smith chest press 225x10 245x6
    Cable crossover 40x10x3

    So far 15 days in
    I have noticed a huge weight gain. My buddy hasn't gained much, I'm starting to think that I may be gaining fat, maybe I should lower my carb intake.? What do you guys think?

    Still taking aromasin 12.5 every day should I stick to that or do eod ?

    Libido is o.k ... Could be better
    Gyno no, although paranoia is there
    Mood, alright I think the aromasin makes a little tired or cloudy I should say, only in the morning. has anybody else experienced this?

    Do you guys think I should do cardio on the cycle or wait until I'm done? What do you guys think?
    Strength has increased, but I haven't noticed anything spectacular... Hopefully that will kick in soon

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    Nice, enjoy brother.

    What are peoples' thoughts on pinning 500mg test e once a week as opposed to 2x 250mg?

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsDave View Post
    Nice, enjoy brother.

    What are peoples' thoughts on pinning 500mg test e once a week as opposed to 2x 250mg?
    2x a week gives you more stable blood levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChipChelios View Post
    Chest/abs
    250E
    Aro 12.5
    Weight 215

    Flat bb press 1p+25x15
    225x12, 235x10, 245x7
    Calve press maxx3xfail
    Incline DB press 80x12x3
    Machine press max 220x11x3
    Calve press 5p, max rep x fail
    Decline smith chest press 225x10 245x6
    Cable crossover 40x10x3

    So far 15 days in
    I have noticed a huge weight gain. My buddy hasn't gained much, I'm starting to think that I may be gaining fat, maybe I should lower my carb intake.? What do you guys think?

    Still taking aromasin 12.5 every day should I stick to that or do eod ?

    Libido is o.k ... Could be better
    Gyno no, although paranoia is there
    Mood, alright I think the aromasin makes a little tired or cloudy I should say, only in the morning. has anybody else experienced this?

    Do you guys think I should do cardio on the cycle or wait until I'm done? What do you guys think?
    Strength has increased, but I haven't noticed anything spectacular... Hopefully that will kick in soon
    cardio works out the most important muscle of all, your heart. so yea good idea to do it. also dont cut too quickly, once you've completed your cycle and PCT, maintain what you have for a while (couple months at least), get used to your new body, then cut.

    good luck.

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    Weight 213
    Lat Pulldowns WU, 3x160
    DB row 100x12x3
    T-bar row wide 3px10x3
    T-bar narrow 3p 25 x10x2
    Deadlift 135x20, 225x10, 225x10, 245x10
    Close grip Pulldowns 130x15, 130x12

    Workout today was awesome. Definitely felt stronger in the gym today. After my workout I was pooped though. Thank god I was off work, I had a nap.

    I am wondering if I should up my dose of aromasin what do you guys think? I'm taking 12.5 Ed does anybody have any experience with it ?

    Mood good
    Libido good
    Motivation high

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    Quote Originally Posted by kronik420

    cardio works out the most important muscle of all, your heart. so yea good idea to do it. also dont cut too quickly, once you've completed your cycle and PCT, maintain what you have for a while (couple months at least), get used to your new body, then cut.

    good luck.
    Thanks man. I will start to do cardio, starting tomorrow !

    Thanks for the advice

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    Aro 12.5
    Abs

    BB upright row WU, 3x25's
    Seated DB press 50x3x10
    One arm cable side laterals 10x12x3
    Rear Delts with machine 130x12x3
    Shrugs 15x3x85


    Going to start doing cardio very soon. This week is going to be hard. Going camping so no drinking for me

    I won't be doing the daily update thing anymore.
    I will be updating when I see some big improvements
    Next week sometime I will post some pictures

    Mood good
    Libido alright, better now that I switched my aromasin to eod, I feel much better overall

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    So i just finished week 4 of the cycle and week six of the diet
    Things are going pretty well so far. I'm up to 219 now, I think the weight increase at the beginning was the diet, I think the test has finally started to kick in.
    I'm feeling a slight increase in strength for my strong points like back and shoulders. My weaker muscle groups I haven't noticed a huge difference yet, but I'll keep working on them.

    So far my view on doing thing cycle has changed dramatically. But I can't judge anything yet seeing as I've heard that it usually kicks in fully in week six.
    It's hard seeing my friends drinking and not being able to, so far the sides outweigh the gains, but like I said we'll see in week six, I think I'm just being hard on myself.
    Mood has been up and down

    Still taking aromasin 12.5 EOD, I take it at night before bed, I'm foggy until noonish, it sucks but it's def better than Gino !

    One Problem though guys! Maybe somebody can help out.
    The bird has been complaining that I haven't been as HARD lately, I'll get a bonner but after ten mins I'll loose it, then get it back.
    Before my cycle I never had a problem with this. I know it's probably just one of the sides and it'll go away after, but maybe I could do something.?

    Motivation level has been down a little but I just tell myself GET JACKED and I get excited to work out. I think it's awesome that I have a workout buddy that's doing the same cycle as me, so we compare notes

    Anyways that's it fr now

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    Week six into the cycle.
    So far no sides currently still taking aromasin at 12.5 mg EOD, but I will try doing 6 mg EOD

    Cycle has been good, noticing slight strength increases, although I thought they would have been higher. The day following my leg workout I am always super tired, was hoping AAS would help with that, but I guess not on this stuff
    Current weight is 217, I seem to be maintaining that weight pretty well.
    Going to get some HCG and clomid for pct

    Had to buy some new jeans because none of mine fit !!

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    Where are the before...during pics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Live for the PUMP
    Where are the before...during pics?
    I will post some within a few days !

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    So here are some current pics, my posing sucks !
    I had to edit them a little ...
    I will post some of my chest soon seeing as there are none...



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    Workout today was awesome, def noticing the strength gains,
    Did 405 lb deadlift for x8, I was pretty happy with that, and my other sets at 315 x11
    DB rows were beast mode today at 125 x12 each arm x3
    Felt really good,
    Weight 220

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    So 6.5mg of aromasin is working awesome, I'm not noticing any sides from it, very happy I made that choice . Still taking it EOD

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    Just did legs today, felt VERY strong in legs, it was a huge increase.



    I am wondering what is everybody's take on possibly taking anavar for the last few weeks of the cycle.how mild is it.
    Keep in mind this is my first cycle, should I just stick to the test?

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    Beastly legs Bro!

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    405lbsx8!! Your Fn killing it dude! Nice lifts!

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    Thanks man, pretty happy with my strength gains
    I tell ya since I've started this cycle the grocery bill and supplement bill has been a lot harder.

    Does anybody have a bodybuilder idol that they follow?

    Mood has been good, I find myself critiquing myself on things in life a lot more now.... Could be good or bad.
    For example, I didn't do very well on a test I had, usually I would just shrug it off, but I've been dwelling on it all day. I just keep reminding myself... That I'm on stuff.

    Any takes on my question about anavar ?

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    Alrighty guys ! Going into week 8 of the cycle things are looking really good.

    Not really getting much input from the folks here in the forum though ... Ah well I guess test 500 is quite common here...

    I'll post new pics sometime this week.

    I'll be finishing this cycle on week 10, then I'll be starting my pct I'll be doing hcg and clomid, not quite sure of the doses yet. Should I still be running my AI as well?
    And I'll be starting this 14 days after the cycle ends. I am not excited for pct, but this is the part that counts. We will see what I maintain !

    I was thinking about my next cycle one of my buddies suggested test e, d-Bol, tren . I have heard great things about tren, but beware of the sides if they do occur. We will see what happens, as it stands I'll be taking 3 months off for sure.

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    How is your friend doing on his cycle? Make sure you do a solid PCT. I sent ya a PM

    And Tren is not a second cycle choice. I is 5x stronger than Test and has more side effect's, not to mention it is very supressive. Since your young you want cycles that you can bounce back quickly on and feel ok. Second cycle add in a dbol or tbol kicker or maybe do a Test/Anavar stack.
    Last edited by bp2000; 09-11-2012 at 11:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bp2000
    How is your friend doing on his cycle? Make sure you do a solid PCT. I sent ya a PM

    And Tren is not a second cycle choice. I is 5x stronger than Test and has more side effect's, not to mention it is very supressive. Since your young you want cycles that you can bounce back quickly on and feel ok. Second cycle add in a dbol or tbol kicker or maybe do a Test/Anavar stack.
    Yeah I agree tren is probably too strong, I might just do test and anavar , maybe I'll do test prop so it kicks in faster..
    What do you mean it's more "suppressive"?

    My friend is doing very well on the cycle, he hasn't had an side effects everything has been good, although he hasn't gained much weight none at all. Sorta weird...
    His diet is pretty much identical to mine.
    Thanks for the pm !

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    So going onto week nine.
    Things are going very well and I am very happy with my results, I can def see how one could get addicted to this lifestyle.
    I have been hearing that tren +dbol +test~e have a sort of synergy effect and is an awesome stack, I probably won't do it but my buddy (training partner) will be.

    Will be taking pictures very soon.

    What is everybody's take on drinking aminos during workouts ? Is it worth the money ?

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    Alrighty boys!

    So next week on Monday is my last pin, it will then be 10 weeks, I'm excited to see how my body will look/ reactto PCT

    I think I have gained a lot of water weight but we shall see. I think next time if I do another test only cycle ill do prop so that it kicks in faster.
    Pretty happy with the results so far. I went from 195 to 221 lbs, my diet has been pretty spot on, so it's easy to say I didn't gain much fat.
    Basically my weight increase for my workouts was superb,
    DB rows I went from doing 85 x12 to 120 x12
    Deadlifts from 295x8 to 405 x6
    Hack squats from 6 plates x 10 to 8 plates x9 ( real deep)

    Bench press went up a little but not as much as I wanted to

    The only side I've noticed in these last two week are shin pumps, they feel like really bad shin splints, I can barely un because of them.

    I am excited to take a break from the juice.

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    So on Monday ill be starting pct.

    Last inject was Monday, I did 10 weeks of test-e

    I am currently on 12.5 mg of aromasin EOD,
    I was told to do 1000 of HCG starting Monday for EOD, and to stay on aromasin while on HCG. Then when done HCG to start clomid does this sound right?
    I know pretty vague but its the only details I have .

    Also I was wondering if I should cut back on the amount of carbs I was doing 150g per meal, my diet is on page 1.
    What do you guys think.?

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    You got on gear way to soon. Natty iv always been in even better shape than that.

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    Please don't take any offence to my previous comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by West Coast Winner
    You got on gear way to soon. Natty iv always been in even better shape than that.
    ... What are we in grade two here ?

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    So it's been about three weeks since my last pin


    Pct is going awesome, no real sides, minor mini pimples on back, but nothing major.
    No depression, and libido is VeRY good
    HCG is great stuff, my last pin for that is tomorrow, the stuff sorta burns, but I've noticed an energy increase with it, def worth the money
    Doing clomid EOD and will be doing that for another 4 weeks
    Weight is at 218, currently giving myself a break from creatine and per workout energy shake
    Overall I am very pleased with my gains.
    Excited for my next cycle, I'd like to do one right before summer to cut up!!

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    Thats great to hear Chip!

    Remember to eat more during this critical time. You should re-evaluate your TDEE and increase you cals accordingly.

    Good job bud!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox
    Thats great to hear Chip!

    Remember to eat more during this critical time. You should re-evaluate your TDEE and increase you cals accordingly.

    Good job bud!
    Eat more eh, why is that? I've just kept my diet the same.

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    So I'm all done pct, things went very well!

    Overall I am very pleased with the results, and I have kept a lot of strength.
    Planning another cycle I'm going to run dbol for 5 weeks and test enth for 12
    Excited !!!!!
    Current weight 217

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChipChelios View Post
    Eat more eh, why is that? I've just kept my diet the same.
    quite simply put if you dont eat enought calories to sustain your gains then they will start to dissapear eventually...because you have gained weight your tdee has changed...

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    Exactly what GB said.

    Re do your TDEE (LBMX15) and increase your cals to feed your new mucsle. Otherwise you can kiss it goodbye in the next 4wks.

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