stpete's Test900mg/Halo possibly adding Tren later Cycle....

[Gaspari1255]

I'm curious to see if the Halo has any effect on your appetite.

[stpete]

On or around Sept. 20, Bronzer. Going to start at 30mg a day.

[milky01623]

Dude can I ask are your weights in pounds or kilos
Eg 50lb @ 15 reps
I ask cos you use pounds and over here it's all gone daft ie kilos
Thanx
But also can u cycle var whilst on TRT

[Buster Brown]

Are you timing your rest between sets or going by "feel"?

[d.calef11]

I'm subbing to this as soon as I find out how lol (x

But I'm definitely liking your workouts SP, but for someone like me (not geared up), would taking a 3:1 routine be alright to do? I've been on and off of the gym for years with no set schedule, what so ever. But being here in this forum, it kind of... Kind of makes me want to put more effort into it. I guess I could say you guys inspire me and stuff to be more professional about my shxt. I've been trying to figure out a healthy diet, a nice workout routine, and some supplements (only 18 years old and not ready to get juiced) to help me get started on the right track. Keep up that hard work and good luck with everything.

"If you want to succeed as bad as you want to breathe, then you'll be successful." -Eric Thomas

[d.calef11]

HAH! I found how to sub! Such a newb lol

[stpete]

Dude can I ask are your weights in pounds or kilos
Eg 50lb @ 15 reps
I ask cos you use pounds and over here it's all gone daft ie kilos
Thanx
But also can u cycle var whilst on TRT

Yes, those numbers are in LBS. If they were in kilo's i'd be a bad man. haha.. And yes, you can.

Are you timing your rest between sets or going by "feel"?

Hey buddy, i don't time my rest. I would say 2 minutes between sets is average. I'm usually in and out of the gym in about 40-45 minutes.

I'm subbing to this as soon as I find out how lol (x

But I'm definitely liking your workouts SP, but for someone like me (not geared up), would taking a 3:1 routine be alright to do? I've been on and off of the gym for years with no set schedule, what so ever. But being here in this forum, it kind of... Kind of makes me want to put more effort into it. I guess I could say you guys inspire me and stuff to be more professional about my shxt. I've been trying to figure out a healthy diet, a nice workout routine, and some supplements (only 18 years old and not ready to get juiced) to help me get started on the right track. Keep up that hard work and good luck with everything.

"If you want to succeed as bad as you want to breathe, then you'll be successful." -Eric Thomas

Glad you're following and figured it out! You don't have to be on AAS to do this routine but it is taxing. By the 3rd day i'm pretty tired and ready for a break. But i haven't pushed myself in a while and it's time to do it again. The Nutrition Forum is the place to go for diet tips. Post your diet and those great guys and gals will be more than happy to help you out. Glad to hear you're not going to jump "on" right now. Taking a big risk if you did. Get yourself a solid diet along w/regular training and you will see gains.
If i can help in any way, just let me know.

Thanks for following and i hope it helps.

[stpete]

Day 2 of the 3:1

Delts/Legs

Hammer Strength Shoulder Press
90lb.x 15
180lb.x 12
230x10
270x10
270x6

Seated DB Presses
60lb.x15
80lb.x12
85lb.x8

Leg Press
270lb.x20
450lb.x12
540lb.x12
630lb.x12
720lb.x12
810lb.x8- not ever really going to go too heavy on these as my knees are weak and i'm very cautious of possible injury and just isn't worth it.

Seated Calf Raises
90lb.x15
140x12
140x12
140x12-Later when i change my routine i will employ standing calf raises and go heavy. So, calves will be worked twice a week. high reps one day, low reps the other.

Superset DB Lateral & Front Raises
35x12
45x10
45x8

Right shoulder was popping and cracking as usual but overall felt ok. Took a little longer than usual to get loose though. Was going to do another set of DB Presses but some youngsters(4) came over and started to get loud, acting stupid so i just left. Wasn't in the mood to say anything. I was feeling too good to let it get to me.

Back/Bi's/Traps tomorrow

[havanakid]

Love the hammer strength shoulder presses..thats also my first when I hit the shoulders..I do 3 sets facing away and 3 sets facing the backpad..it hits the spot.Keep it up bro.

[stpete]

I don't turn around anymore but i used to. Next delt day i'll do some heavy Smith Machine Presses.

Thanks.

[havanakid]

Smith machine presses are good stuff too...great isolators for the delts.

[stpete]

Day 3 of the 3:1

Back/Traps/Bi's

Seated Low Rows-Close Grip
150lb.x15
180x12
220x10
270x10
300x6

Nautilus Bicep Curl-Both Arms
95lb.x15
125x10
140x8
155x5

Pull Downs-Wide Grip
200x10
240x6
240x6
240x6
180x12

DB Shrugs
90lb.x25
100x20
100x20
100x20
100x20

Nautilus Bi's-Same machine as above
21's
x80lb.
x110lb
x110lb
x110lb

Had a good workout despite my shitty dinner last night(chili dogs w/the kids) and lunch today w/my daughter at her school. She made me eat from the cafateria. hahaha...But got home and grabbed a protein/carb/creatine drink prior to hitting the gym so that made me feel a little better. 1/2 lb. hamburger w/lettuce and tomato, asparagus and half baked potato tonight. One of my favorite meals.

Off tomorrow but might accompany the wife to her YMCA to get in a little cardio.

[stpete]

Smith machine presses are good stuff too...great isolators for the delts.

Yeah, i'm gonna hit em hard next delt day!

[austinite]

Bad ass numbers stpete!

[MickeyKnox]

enjoying this thread bro..youre rocking out some impressive numbers. keep it going.

[stpete]

Thanks gentlemen! I'm feeling pretty damn good. Got some good ideas for future workouts. Might get medieval on some stuff. haha...

[rockhardman]

Workout 3 days and rest 1 day ....does that feel good?

[stpete]

^^^^ Yeah, it does. For now anyway. About 2 more weeks of this and i will probably go back to my usual 2:1. That routine will look something like this:

Day 1-Chest/bi's/abs
Day2-Back/tri's
Off
Day 4-Delts/abs
Day 5-Legs/calves
Off
Start over- cardio will be done once or twice a week. Days vary. Might also leave out bi's and tri's w/ chest and back, and throw those in w/delts. Undecided.
Day 5-

[baseline_9]

What I wana know is, how long can u hold off on the tren

[ghettoboyd]

What I wana know is, how long can u hold off on the tren

yea im wondering that too...and why?...

[stpete]

What I wana know is, how long can u hold off on the tren

haha..Questions like that keep reminding me that i have several carts in my closet. you're not helping things Baseline!!!!!!

yea im wondering that too...and why?...

For a couple of reasons ghetto. I started converting and running tren in 2004. And i've ran it at least once a year (except for 2 years) since then. Thinking it's time to give it a break. I love the stuff but for me, i get nice gains from test w/half the sides. I still have slight aggression but no night sweats and i sleep like a baby. If i do employ tren, it will be to help get rid of some unwanted bf towards the end of cycle and i'll run 100mgs eod and adjust diet and cardio accordingly.

Another thing, the wife is extremely cool and supportive. But she has a problem w/me getting up in the middle of the night to put towels on the bed to cover sweat stained bed sheets. And she says i go off on some of the smallest issues and says my temper is bad enough without adding tren to the mix. She's crazy. haha...

Anyway, happy wife=happy life. So if and when i employ tren, i have to be very careful.

[ghettoboyd]

haha..Questions like that keep reminding me that i have several carts in my closet. you're not helping things Baseline!!!!!!



For a couple of reasons ghetto. I started converting and running tren in 2004. And i've ran it at least once a year (except for 2 years) since then. Thinking it's time to give it a break. I love the stuff but for me, i get nice gains from test w/half the sides. I still have slight aggression but no night sweats and i sleep like a baby. If i do employ tren, it will be to help get rid of some unwanted bf towards the end of cycle and i'll run 100mgs eod and adjust diet and cardio accordingly.

Another thing, the wife is extremely cool and supportive. But she has a problem w/me getting up in the middle of the night to put towels on the bed to cover sweat stained bed sheets. And she says i go off on some of the smallest issues and says my temper is bad enough without adding tren to the mix. She's crazy. haha...

Anyway, happy wife=happy life. So if and when i employ tren, i have to be very careful.

right on my friend...i see now there was a well thought out plan here not just the cycle but in the " big picture" so to speek..respect brother...

[stpete]

^^^ Thank you, sir!

[Buster Brown]

Def want to keep the wife on your side, makes for much smoother sailing.

[stpete]

^^^^ I learned the hard way. but i did learn. haha..

[ANIMAL]

^^^^ Yeah, it does. For now anyway. About 2 more weeks of this and i will probably go back to my usual 2:1. That routine will look something like this:

Day 1-Chest/bi's/abs
Day2-Back/tri's
Off
Day 4-Delts/abs
Day 5-Legs/calves
Off
Start over- cardio will be done once or twice a week. Days vary. Might also leave out bi's and tri's w/ chest and back, and throw those in w/delts. Undecided.
Day 5-

Just something I noticed with myself, I can never hit BI's the day before I hit back. Have you ever thought of putting BI's on a different day after you had already hit back? Same thing goes for hitting Tri's the day after Chest. Personally, I like my muscle to be as fresh as they can be before destroying them in the gym.

I know you said you may do them with delts, but I would give that a try. I also never do the same muscle the following week on the same day as the previous week.

Things that I found worked for me because I use to lift and schedule like you are doing. Also, hit calves and abs more then once a week. I do them 3x a week and found it to be my sweet spot on putting on muscle for those 2.

[stpete]

Yeah, i've done so many variations it's crazy. anymore though, i concentrate more on the bigger muscles than bi's and tri' and calves. Meaning i'll go higher reps(bi's and tri's) while doing this. Kinda like what i did yesterday.This will change later in the cycle. And really the only reason for chest/bi's is just to switch it up. My body's so used to chest/tri's i like to try to keep it guessing on occasion.
And yeah, i think when i switch it up i will probably go back to delts/arms/abs. I love that combo and i go heavy. I don't know about the same days the following week. I just go w/my routine and whatever day it falls on, so be it. And yeah, i hit calves/abs twice a week and that's fine for me. Unfortunately, my shit downstairs is strong but just doesn't grow. Very frustrating!

I just finished my 6th 3:1 split. I'll keep it this way at least til Sept. 9th. Maybe a little longer. But i have to get back on the bench and start prepping for my lifting comp Oct. 6th. Had nice results last year as i didn't get on the bench til 2 weeks out just to get the feel back. I tore my rotator 5 years ago on the bench and i hardly ever get on it. Every now and again i'll throw 225 on it and do it 15-20 times and leave it alone. But i have to do it to compete as it's a big factor in the comp.
I will keep everything detailed out right here.

Thanks for stopping by and your opinions. I'll look forward to more.

[ANIMAL]

Yeah, i've done so many variations it's crazy. anymore though, i concentrate more on the bigger muscles than bi's and tri' and calves. Meaning i'll go higher reps(bi's and tri's) while doing this. Kinda like what i did yesterday.This will change later in the cycle. And really the only reason for chest/bi's is just to switch it up. My body's so used to chest/tri's i like to try to keep it guessing on occasion.
And yeah, i think when i switch it up i will probably go back to delts/arms/abs. I love that combo and i go heavy. I don't know about the same days the following week. I just go w/my routine and whatever day it falls on, so be it. And yeah, i hit calves/abs twice a week and that's fine for me. Unfortunately, my shit downstairs is strong but just doesn't grow. Very frustrating!

I just finished my 6th 3:1 split. I'll keep it this way at least til Sept. 9th. Maybe a little longer. But i have to get back on the bench and start prepping for my lifting comp Oct. 6th. Had nice results last year as i didn't get on the bench til 2 weeks out just to get the feel back. I tore my rotator 5 years ago on the bench and i hardly ever get on it. Every now and again i'll throw 225 on it and do it 15-20 times and leave it alone. But i have to do it to compete as it's a big factor in the comp.
I will keep everything detailed out right here.

Thanks for stopping by and your opinions. I'll look forward to more.

Yea I'll never do chest/tri's on the same day or back/bis on the same day. I also won't hit tris before chest day or day after chest day, same thing goes for back/bis.

What I bolded... yea I mentioned try not to hit chest on monday and then the following week don't hit chest again on monday. Change it up each week so your body doesn't get use to hitting that muscle on a specific day giving it the same amount of rest each week.

It's the little stuff like that, that I found can make the world of a difference when trying to add size.

You like the high rep on smaller muscles? I use to do that as well, and although the pump AT the gym was great, I wasn't seeing any great results as far as adding muscle. I follow a lot from Dorian Yates and his techniques for lifting. I'll do a warm up, do a weight I can get to 8 (pump out struggle to 10), then a weight i can get to 6 (pump out 2 more struggling) etc...

Just suggestions.

[stpete]

Cool. I'm always up for suggestions! Thanks.

[jimmyinkedup]

Great log man. Im loving it. Reading multiple times daily!

[stpete]

Very cool, jimmy!! It's only going to get better! Thanks for following.

[Far from massive]

stpete,

You have obviously been at this a lot longer than me so don't take this wrong, but I am curious if you have ever used drost? I have been using DrostP instead of TrenA for recomps for the reasons you mentioned as well as libido issues. For me I can damn near feel the fat melting and still see decent gains when on the stuff without all the sides of the Tren .

Also just wanted to say, hats off on not going too heavy and only doing 800 and change on leg press ... my skinny old ass would snap if I did 800 for one rep!!

Good luck with the cycle and will be following your progress.

FFM

[stpete]

Thanks, Massive! And to be honest, i've never heard of DrostP. I'll have to look it up. 800 on the leg press is about i'll do for now and it's a workout, don't get me wrong. and i'm not getting any younger either.
When you get the opportunity let me know more about this Drost stuff if you don't mind.

Thanks for following!

[baseline_9]

Thanks, Massive! And to be honest, i've never heard of DrostP. I'll have to look it up. 800 on the leg press is about i'll do for now and it's a workout, don't get me wrong. and i'm not getting any younger either.
When you get the opportunity let me know more about this Drost stuff if you don't mind.

Thanks for following!

It's just masteron prop m8

[baseline_9]

I fancy that for my next cycle... Test, Tren , Masteron .... Test/19nor/DHT

[stpete]

It's just masteron prop m8

Ah, ok. In that case yes, i've used it and like it. Just don't like the price attached to it opposed to fina.

And you'll have to let me know when you run that cycle baseline.

[OnTheSauce]

I ran a test/tren /mast combo this summer. 700/1000/350, respectively. Liked it a lot. Veins everywhere. Good mass and strength gains

[stpete]

Day 1 of 3:1

Chest/Tri's

Flat Bench
135lbs.x20
225x15
275x10
315-5x3sets

Hammer Strength Incline
90lb.x10
180x10
270x8
320x6 Strip Sets from there-
270x6
180x10
90x15

Flat Bench BB Close Grip
135lb.x15
185x10
225x4

Rope Push Downs
100lb.x20x15x15x15

Nautilus Pec Deck-No weight indication just numbers.
4x15

There's still a little mental thing going on w/the bench press. Felt good going into the workout and during bench but the old injury is always in my head. Started to feel it after the 275lb set. I knew i was going to do 315lb but had entertained going heavier if shoulder felt up to it. Well it didn't so after my first set @ 315lb i decided on a couple more @ the same weight. Shoulder was a little tight till about 20 minutes ago. Going to start increasing my warm up and stretching time.

Like i said at the top, my diet isn't the best after lunch and sometimes it's not the best all day long when we have all the kids here every other weekend. Well, this is one of those weekends. Took everyone out to breakfast and Dad had 4 eggs over easy, sausage, home fries and 2 buscuits w/gravy. Large milk and large o.j.
Did manage to get in a protein bar/cranberry w/creatine drink pre workout.
While i was at the gym, the wife took the kids to Chucky Cheese. So when i got home there was a whole pep pizza waiting on me. No, i didn't eat the whole thing. Just about a third w/milk. And we're having taco's and burritos for dinner! hahaha...What a day!!
And tonight is movie night at home w/the kids. I will not have popcorn and ice cream.

[Times Roman]

so back to the 3:1 workout scheme. Sounds like you are gettin the results you are looking for? I'm slowly going to switch to the same scheme this month, and when i start my next cycle in october, i'll be able to hit the ground running. I'm thinking test, var, and some mast p. someone;s mixing up a batch up mast (drost) and waiting to see if it came out ok.

[stpete]

Yes sir Times. I will edit to let everyone know day 1 of 3:1. Good catch. Let me know when you start. That cycle sounds good. And let me ask you something. Earlier i was asked about drost and didn't know what it was till baseline told me it was mast. why the term drost? Is that what they call homebrew or something? Maybe i need to do a refresher course on all the AAS out there and available.

Thank you!