Kronik's 1st cycle log

[kronik420]

current stats
24
6 ft 1"
92 kg (202 lbs) (just finished cutting down from 100 kg natty)
BF% 16 - 17
TDEE 2500 kcals

goal
100 kg after PCT (hopefully with less BF% than when i was there natty, was 100kg at 20+%)


cycle
week 1-4 test c 500mg/week (1st shot front loaded 625mg)
week 5-8 test p 150mg EOD
week 1-8 Arimidex .25mg EOD

PCT week 9-12
nolva 40/20/20/20
clomid 100/50/50/50

also have a few dbols laying around, might use them at 30mg pre workout for the 1st 2 weeks.
and b12 injectable 1000mcg ED
would have used HCG weeks 1-8 at 2x 250IU's if i could of aquired some...


diet
starting off at 3000 kcals, will adjust as needed, towards the end of the cycle and during PCT will aim for 4500+ kcals. will be feeding 24/7, so ill be eating every 3 hours or so..

Protein: chicken, beef, pork, eggs + egg whites, cottage cheese, whey
Carbs: oats, sweet potatoes, broccoli, brown rice, some fruit (mainly bananas), yogurt
Fats: Avocados, fish oil supps, EVOO, almond milk, peanuts and almonds


workout
Monday chest
Tuesday back
Wednesday shoulders/abs
Thursday legs
Friday biceps/triceps
Saturday rest
Sunday rest

Cardio 30 minutes after weight session, or fasted in the morning, or when i can be fked (i don't like cardio lol)

Start date: Monday 28/1/13

[kronik420]

Day 1

1st pin 2.5ml test c 625mg in right quad done

little bit of pip, nothing i can't handle..

was easier than i expected although i highly doubt i can pin my self 1 handed in say delts. i need 2 hands lol..

now im hungry, meal 1 will be 1 cup oats, 4 eggs, 2 scoops whey

[t-dogg]

I wouldnt go over 500mgs per pin. You can just split it into two pins the same day. Alot of gear in one place.

[kronik420]

I wouldnt go over 500mgs per pin. You can just split it into two pins the same day. Alot of gear in one place.

too late lol

it went ok

rest of my test c pins will be 1ml..

[t-dogg]

Your running 500mgs then jumping to 600mgs?

[kronik420]

Your running 500mgs then jumping to 600mgs?

no 500mg per week, frontloaded 1st pin 625mg

once i start the prop at 150mg EOD, that works out to 525mg per week..

[Shsm]

Good luck bro! Wish you the best.

[bigZthedestroyer]

Day 1

1st pin 2.5ml test c 625mg in right quad done

little bit of pip, nothing i can't handle..

was easier than i expected although i highly doubt i can pin my self 1 handed in say delts. i need 2 hands lol..

now im hungry, meal 1 will be 1 cup oats, 4 eggs, 2 scoops whey

Congrats on starting man! 1 handed pins are a breeze. I thought it would have been tricky but it's fairly easy and almost second nature now. I'm looking forward to following along.

[wh1spa]

Subbed

[Lunk1]

Watching close...lets see the before pics....

[kronik420]

Good luck bro! Wish you the best.

i dont need luck.. but thanks

Congrats on starting man! 1 handed pins are a breeze. I thought it would have been tricky but it's fairly easy and almost second nature now. I'm looking forward to following along.

ill try practicing 1 handed, i guess eventually it'll get easier..

Subbed

[kronik420]

Watching close...lets see the before pics....

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[>Good Luck<]

Hey bro what's the idea behind switching from cyp to prop week 4??

[t-dogg]

Hey bro what's the idea behind switching from cyp to prop week 4??

Faster PCT time.

[canesfan804]

I thought most start arimidex on week 3 because it takes a bit for test sides to start?

[kronik420]

Hey bro what's the idea behind switching from cyp to prop week 4??

what t dogg said, faster PCT time, i should be finished cycle + PCT in 12 weeks

I thought most start arimidex on week 3 because it takes a bit for test sides to start?

you don't wait for sides too show up before starting your AI...

[boz]

Fellow aussie nice to see you took the lunge! Its not everyone makes out to be, the pin/needle aint so bad.

I will keep be looking over your progress, hope it all goes to plan as you want it.

goal
100 kg after PCT (hopefully with less BF% than when i was there natty, was 100kg at 20+%) This will be easier said than done, you really going to have to nail your diet on this one. Also with your adex tailored to your cycle, your water retention should be stable to low.

Also it does get easier man with the pinning, you got no idea how anxious nervous i was to get my very first injection into me, after a phew pins it came second nature lol.

[kronik420]

Fellow aussie nice to see you took the lunge! Its not everyone makes out to be, the pin/needle aint so bad.

I will keep be looking over your progress, hope it all goes to plan as you want it.

goal
100 kg after PCT (hopefully with less BF% than when i was there natty, was 100kg at 20+%) This will be easier said than done, you really going to have to nail your diet on this one. Also with your adex tailored to your cycle, your water retention should be stable to low.

Also it does get easier man with the pinning, you got no idea how anxious nervous i was to get my very first injection into me, after a phew pins it came second nature lol.

lol yea i was shaking a bit when i was drawing the test into the syringe, had to have 1 hand holding the syringe, and 1 on the plunger..

i guess it will get easier tho..

[canesfan804]

Have someone else do the pin.

[kronik420]

Have someone else do the pin.

maybe for my delt shots

but i think ill be fine with quads/glutes

[>Good Luck<]

what t dogg said, faster PCT time, i should be finished cycle + PCT in 12 weeks

you don't wait for sides too show up before starting your AI...

I would have just picked one and went with it. Seems unconventional and the transition sucks IMO. I did it week 10-12 on cyp for the same reason and hormones were all over the place.

As for the AI, I start mine on week 2 so the test can build up a tad first and I don't completely crash the e2. Maybe someone will correct my logic but it seems to work for me

[kronik420]

I would have just picked one and went with it. Seems unconventional and the transition sucks IMO. I did it week 10-12 on cyp for the same reason and hormones were all over the place.

As for the AI, I start mine on week 2 so the test can build up a tad first and I don't completely crash the e2. Maybe someone will correct my logic but it seems to work for me

ill see how i go i guess

i front loaded, so i think i should start my AI week 1..

[kronik420]

ok off to the gym

chest today

i can already feel the pain lol

[kronik420]

meal 2 was


1 chicken breast, 1 egg, 1 wholegrain tortilla

no shake was hungry needed food

workout was good, got a few more reps in than i did last week, lol yay for placebo effect..

warmup
flat bench db presses, 1 feel set, 1 working set with triple drop set and rest pause

incline bench db presses, 1 feel set, 1 working set with triple drop set and rest pause

decline bench db presses, 1 feel set, 1 working set with triple drop set and rest pause

flat bench db flies, 1 feel set, 1 working set with 1 drop set

ouch...

[MickeyKnox]

Right on Kronik!

Just curious to know the reasoning behind your short cycle with one of the longest esters out there? I know im missing something..been away recently.

[kronik420]

Right on Kronik!

Just curious to know the reasoning behind your short cycle with one of the longest esters out there? I know im missing something..been away recently.

due to dumbass drug dealers not being able to read, i ended up with 1 vial of cyp and 2 vials of prop... otherwise i woulda gone with 8 weeks of prop..

how ever i did front load 625mg 1st pin.. so hopefully it should kick in around week 2-3...

i do have some dbols laying around tho...

[MickeyKnox]

Roget that bro.

I would save the dirty Dbol for another cycle..perhaps one that is longer and your goal is to bulk with long esters.

Sub'd!

[kronik420]

Roget that bro.

I would save the dirty Dbol for another cycle..perhaps one that is longer and your goal is to bulk with long esters.

Sub'd!

yea, i will probably save them for another time, don't really have that many anyways... was just thinking about using them pre workout..

but test only for a 1st cycle is all that i need, i read that somewhere

[MickeyKnox]

yea, i will probably save them for another time, don't really have that many anyways... was just thinking about using them pre workout..

but test only for a 1st cycle is all that i need, i read that somewhere

Yeah that rings a bell..

[kronik420]

meal 3 & 4 chicken breast and sweet potatoes

walking with a slight limp now lol

[>Good Luck<]

meal 3 & 4 chicken breast and sweet potatoes

walking with a slight limp now lol

That slight limp may turn to a full out gangster lean lol. I just had a bad quad injection and walked like a tool for 3 days straight before it became bearable again. Im fine now 5 days later.

Good luck and delt shots are a bit nicer for pip. Easier to get away with than your legs because your always walking.

[Sick_beard]

Nice experimental 1st cycle. Pay attention to your body, you will learn a lot and have some fun along the way.

I'm on day 15 now and holy shyt I've never felt better in my life!!

Good luck

[>Good Luck<]

no 500mg per week, frontloaded 1st pin 625mg

once i start the prop at 150mg EOD, that works out to 525mg per week..

Holy shnit! I just reread this post and realized that your FIRST PIN EVER was 2.5mL/625mg

That's nukkin-futz man, I bet your little limp has become a dead limb lol

[kronik420]

That slight limp may turn to a full out gangster lean lol. I just had a bad quad injection and walked like a tool for 3 days straight before it became bearable again. Im fine now 5 days later.

Good luck and delt shots are a bit nicer for pip. Easier to get away with than your legs because your always walking.

Holy shnit! I just reread this post and realized that your FIRST PIN EVER was 2.5mL/625mg

That's nukkin-futz man, I bet your little limp has become a dead limb lol

you were right lol

i can;t walk now, so couldn't do a workout today

fk...

well every pin of test c from now is only 1ml lol... and the prop will be 1.5ml..

i think i should have split the dosage up into 2 shots and picked 2 different sites... lol oh well im already learning from this cycle lol and i haven;t even been on for 24 hours lol..

[kronik420]

soo approximately 5 days before it stops hurting like a b!tch... grr

looks like im moving my bed into my kitchen, so i won't have to walk far to eat lol..

[>Good Luck<]

you were right lol

i can;t walk now, so couldn't do a workout today

fk...

well every pin of test c from now is only 1ml lol... and the prop will be 1.5ml..

i think i should have split the dosage up into 2 shots and picked 2 different sites... lol oh well im already learning from this cycle lol and i haven;t even been on for 24 hours lol..

The learning curve is sharp and swift

Shooting cyp is baby poop compared to prop. 1.5mL of prop will probably be comparative to what you have done. As you progress, this will subside. You have virgin muscle and it's not used to the pockets of oil and hormone you are feeding it. Prop is painful by nature, and cyp tends to be more smooth. I would recommend shooting delts because avoiding use is more comfortable than avoiding use of your legs. In my first cycle, I would also split up small shots and do 2 per shot day just to alleviate the stress I'm putting on the site. Here's a good pattern;
Left delt, right glute. Next shot day; right delt, left glute. Next shot day; left delt, right quad and so on. Smaller shots won't kick AS BAD, but still can kick... Just not mule kick lol. I should also mention that I would do the majority of the shots in the delts for a couple weeks and lesser amounts in the quads or glutes at first to introduce the substance slowly.

Good luck peg-leg

[>Good Luck<]

soo approximately 5 days before it stops hurting like a b!tch... grr

looks like im moving my bed into my kitchen, so i won't have to walk far to eat lol..

Maybe less, Everyones different. I just had a bad bout from a sloppy injection and limped around like tool for a few days. I keep on it and fight the pain. Force the movement and work the muscle. I try to jog it off now, but the first time was gawd awful! Tried to run a little bit and imagined it was some emergency, but I failed miserably and almost collapsed. Its less painful each time you revisit the spot. To bad you will be shooting EOD soon lol. I'm sub'd now

[kronik420]

The learning curve is sharp and swift

Shooting cyp is baby poop compared to prop. 1.5mL of prop will probably be comparative to what you have done. As you progress, this will subside. You have virgin muscle and it's not used to the pockets of oil and hormone you are feeding it. Prop is painful by nature, and cyp tends to be more smooth. I would recommend shooting delts because avoiding use is more comfortable than avoiding use of your legs. In my first cycle, I would also split up small shots and do 2 per shot day just to alleviate the stress I'm putting on the site. Here's a good pattern;
Left delt, right glute. Next shot day; right delt, left glute. Next shot day; left delt, right quad and so on. Smaller shots won't kick AS BAD, but still can kick... Just not mule kick lol. I should also mention that I would do the majority of the shots in the delts for a couple weeks and lesser amounts in the quads or glutes at first to introduce the substance slowly.

Good luck peg-leg

lol you could have told me this 24 hours ago..

once i hit the prop, ill try it your way, thanks good luck

[xTato]

soo approximately 5 days before it stops hurting like a b!tch...

That sounds like a world of fun

[kronik420]

That sounds like a world of fun

oh it is..