Test E Tren Ace Log

[davesah1]

cant believe I still had this picture of my first grade fat ass.


Stats ~4'6 and 127lbs?
grrrr

[kelkel]

Look good Dave. Just read it for the first time. Nice work.

[davesah1]

Look good Dave. Just read it for the first time. Nice work.

Much appreciated kel.

[qscgugcsq]

cant believe I still had this picture of my first grade fat ass.
<img src="http://forums.steroid .com/attachment.php?attachmentid=151696"/>

Stats ~4'6 and 127lbs?
grrrr

Fat ass... A.bit older and taller I was 180 pounds...

XD

[davesah1]

This shirt made my day. Gift from a friend.



Right Arm = the shittiest muscle group on my body. :/

[davesah1]

Best picture I could take of my BACK given iPhoto, a rotating chair, a laptop, and shitty lighting.
Somethings better than nothing.
Coming off tren Friday.
Will post one series of nice pics taken by a buddy then, but until then here's this since I haven't uploaded a pic of my back yet and 75% of the reason I view logs is for pics like most people. lol

[davesah1]

It's not what you think. Just got a little comfortable.

[davesah1]

also not noticing too much of a difference from the TB500 yet. Been a little over week tho. No pain throughout the day tho, just during certain lifts.

[davesah1]

Been sick with strep throat. Diet fell off and felt like shit for the last three days. Disappointed. Back in the game tho.

[Deequarius]

Been sick with strep throat. Diet fell off and felt like shit for the last three days. Disappointed. Back in the game tho.

I think I could be coming down with strep as well.. Sucks :/

[davesah1]

I think I could be coming down with strep as well.. Sucks :/

chicken and steak aren't very easy on the throat lol. Protein shakes and oats were clutch.

[davesah1]

friend got bloods and the test was underdosed. 500mgs and week and it came back 1200ish. So i guess the tren was underdosed too. But I still blew the **** up. Changing dudes.

[davesah1]

i mean if that under dosed gear then goddamn I cant imagine pharma grade.

[davesah1]

been away all week seeing my grandmother in her last days. didnt get to get any pics and diet went to shit as I was away. Was a nice 7 days off I guess and goodbye's were said.

[davesah1]

So as far as being off tren for almost two weeks. No real strength reduction (yet at least). Did notice I got softer and lost some vascularity and put on some fat, BUT this could also be attributed to the fact I took 5 days off and ate like an average american. yikes I know. But I was away. I ate a lot so the calories were there, but god bless the macros and quality of the food. We'll see if I get some shit back after getting back on board. Didn't notice any depression or weird symptoms, just slight ED and lowered sex drive. Its back now, but the ED is still there from just watching porn at least. Just doesn't get rock solid yet, but it didn't on the tren either. Doesn't really bother me. What bothers me is no more tren.

[davesah1]

as far as my shoulder is concerned, it got a little worse after not lifting for 5 days, inside the gym that is. I'm sure its just gotta get used to moving weight again after 5 days of doing no physical activity whatsoever.

[davesah1]

Weight before leave of absence was 203. Weight today was 209.......
It's amazing how much low quality unrestricted mass I can slop onto myself with my genetics. Managed to gain 6 pounds in 5 days lol. oh well, back to the old grind. well on the bright side at least my bench is down 10 pounds. lmao

[davesah1]

two or three weeks off tren , I forget. But health update.
Thyroid - fine
Lipids - fine
Cholesterol - fine
hemacrite - fine
BP - 106/63
Pulse - 57 BPM

Still on test 500.

Doc said I had the "vitals of a racehorse" LOL

[jsam]

No real sides running or coming off of tren that's great.

[davesah1]

No real sides running or coming off of tren that's great.

you just lose that hard look and this guy is on steroids look. Nothing else major. Ran it for 12 weeks. But damn I miss it.

[davesah1]

Couple updates here.

These last weeks on test 500 I changed the vendor and I feel GREAT. Deequarius got it from the same guy (musclerx) as I did and his bloods showed the test to be severely under-dosed. I never got bloods, but that would explain all the dick issues I had with the tren . As for the tren, I have no clue how under-dosed it was. Maybe this cycle was actually a test 200 and tren 200 log. Who knows. Could explain why I had such minimal sides. For the deep web explorers use advanced growth labs.

Weight is now 202 -
Dropped the cals after the tren, mostly from carbs and lost a lot of sub q water, not going into specifics but I'm not carb cycling either.

Shoulder - pain is dull but still present.

Good night everybody who actually reads this.

*I am also splitting the test pins to four days a week instead of two bc I like stabbing myself.

[jsam]

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*I am also splitting the test pins to four days a week instead of two bc I like stabbing myself.

LOL

Sorry to hear the gear was underdosed that blows.

[sixfootseven]

Am doing my own research on tren at the moment. Are you using caber or pram to combat prolatcin levels?

[davesah1]

Nah, I was under the belief that if estrogen is under control and you aren't sensitive to prolactin the sides will not show. No Brest issues at all. Dick issues could be because maybe the tren was dosed higher then the test, low e, from using letro on under-dosed test, or just tren. Lot of variables. Dick worked but was a stubborn boy at times or would go soft. Never saw those sick strength gains I hoped for but got that hard veiney look. But it's back like black now.

[davesah1]

Shows how important proper training is along with diet. I'm Still damn pleased with the results. Maybe next time operation capture my
local pharmacist to get scripts will be commenced.

[Archx91]

Looking good dude !

[davesah1]

Looking good dude !

Thanks man!

[davesah1]

So with some help from this article on BB.com Bodybuilding.com - Bulking For Endomorphs - Gaining Muscle While Limiting Fat Gains.
I have modified my diet and am still seeing strength increases lost 10 pounds of water weight and got my vascularity back. It's still a work in progress being fined tuned based on the mirror.

Breakfast
5 Eggs
Cup of Whites
60 Carbs from oats with some milk.

Meal 2
8-10 oz Chicken and broccoli with one TBSP of olive oil
Apple or Banana 30 carbs or less

Meal 3 Pre workout
Tuna 60 g Brotein
Beans 60 carbs

PWO Shake
2 scoops whey
20 grams dextrose

PWO Meal (4)
Beans and Tuna same as Pre
or
6 ounces of chicken and brown rice 50-60 carbs.

Meal 5

8-10 oz chicken and spinach with TBSP olive oil

Meal 6

Steak <3 10 ounces of flank with any greens left over from the day.

Cut down on carbs and bumped up fat pretty much and added in more fibrous greens. Working well for the past 5 days. Down to 200 pounds....for better or for worse.

Criticize the shit out of it, feedback welcome.

Will all this tuna kill me eventually?

After plugging in everything to myfitnesspal, macro breakdown is roughly,
250 Carbs (150 on off days)
375-400 grams of protein
100-125 grams of fat

[davesah1]

strength is back to the level it was on the tren and then some. Good gear vs bad gear haha.

[davesah1]

webcams have shitty quality. its mmmkay
Had to lean back bc of the lighting, or else my chest would appear black, but now the traps look disproportionate. Sacrifices had to be made.

[davesah1]

The first week I started this cycle which is about to come to a close.


Relaxed.

[davesah1]

[Hendirx91]

Damn bro you're way bigger. Good job, I think your diet is very good as well. I can't wait to try tren

[davesah1]

What's up forum. So it's been a while since I updated this log. Heres my fatter ass weighing in at 206. It's pretty damn difficult for me to stay lean at above 200.
Gonna be logging another tren run in a few months but this time I'm coming in heavier.
Here's some recents. (Yeah ill drop some BF before I begin

Just a forearm squeeze here^

Legs are mehh... need to get leaner. (Jeans/Pants are already a b*tch to wear so no more size down there).



~Chillin on Enth 350mgs btw.

[davesah1]

prob just gained the additional 10 pounds from fat with my genetics, but a cut will tell.

[davesah1]

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[rando1648]

Look like you had some great results, can't wait to run a tren and test after i finish my PCT (currently on test and primo). Sucks your gear was under dosed. Now im starting to wonder about my gear.

[davesah1]

Look like you had some great results, can't wait to run a tren and test after i finish my PCT (currently on test and primo). Sucks your gear was under dosed. Now im starting to wonder about my gear.

Yeah, I changed the source way back and kept all my strength gains from test and tren and got a little more on slightly lower dose test. I don't know if the tren was underdosed (test definitely was) because it had my muscles and hard as a plank of wood, but I never got those insane strength gains or harsh sides just elevated aggression. If it was, god bless a legit dose of 500mgs.

[davesah1]

Little less than four weeks until I run tren enanthate and log it again gentleman.

This years coming into cycle build looks more promising.
Look pretty similar to my post bob marley banana post when I was on "tren" and 196
1 weeks of carb cycling and down 7 pounds (water weight definitely) to nearly 200 flat.
3 more weeks to go.
Relaxed position besides abs
*and legs


I know I need calf implants don't poke fun.

[davesah1]

Starting Test E "900"mg and Tren E 400 maybe 500mg a week for 12-14 weeks on Sunday
Probably going shoot three days a week for better absorption.

Not sure if I wanna log this one as it seems like a bore for the first 4 weeks until I either go insane, sweat my balls shiny, or find out this tren is also weak/bunk. Probably just update if anything interesting happens.

I'll drop the test to 600 if bloat, and an overall shit feeling comes about but I hope they don't as controlling e2 is not an issue with letro as my main AI that I've grown used to for a year.

*It says test 300mg. I personally take this as marketing bullshit and assume its 250mg and the vendor wants to make it look like a better deal (i.e. same price at 250mg)
So 900mgs off the label, IMO 750mg. Maybe 200mg, shit ill find out with time and bloods.

New guy, old one went AWOL.
1,300 transactions with a 4.9/5. I have faith gear is worth something.

Let's see what happens.