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02-23-2016, 05:12 PM #241Originally Posted by megang
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02-24-2016, 11:27 AM #242
Wow megan well done your starting to look really lean and hard
Keep it up!
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02-26-2016, 04:42 PM #243Female Member
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02-26-2016, 05:12 PM #244
Great progress Megan... Keep up the intensity clearly the hard work is paying off
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02-28-2016, 06:41 AM #246Female Member
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02-28-2016, 10:19 AM #247
She can't be stopped!!! Awesome
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02-28-2016, 05:49 PM #249Female Member
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I want your opinion on what my coaches suggested for while I prep for a show July 9. This is a copy of the email.
Anavar - beginning at 16 weeks out - 20mg daily
Nolvadex - 20mg daily beginning at 14-16 weeks out depending on how things look. May taper the dose upward a bit to 30-40mg over time.
If you have access to Clen , get it for fat burning. Otherwise, the Evogen stuff will be OK.
Have a bottle of Xpel on hand again for peak week.
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02-29-2016, 07:03 AM #250
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02-29-2016, 07:12 AM #251
I have said this number of times, i do not like clen , it down regulates beta receptors to quick and renders it usless very quickly. ECA ia much better stack that maintains its function for a very long time, perhaps even for years.
I would like someone to post a study that shows benefit of using nolvadex in woman for leaning out, or for that matter any benefit other then breast cancer treatment. Oh i anticipate a long silence for this one....
Anavar is a very good natural choice for woman so no major issues there. I would likely start at a lower dose and add kre-alkaline creatine. Anavar improves ATP production and creatine is the building block of ATP, they are a very good obvious pair to be taken together. Kre-alkyline will NOT cause any water retention due to it being PH balanced.
Well my two and a half cents.
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02-29-2016, 08:16 AM #252Female Member
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02-29-2016, 05:54 PM #254
I ECY stack!!! I have no hunger.
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02-29-2016, 05:56 PM #255
I poo pooped by several respected members when I posted a proposed stack the Nolva. My conclusion was there are better compounds for females.....
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02-29-2016, 06:31 PM #257Female Member
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02-29-2016, 06:52 PM #259Female Member
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I definitely don't want to use something that isn't going to benefit my physique.
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02-29-2016, 07:41 PM #260
This is exactly the response I received. I characterize the responses as follows.
Other components more helpful in final prep.
Save the tahtahs!
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03-02-2016, 03:37 AM #261
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03-02-2016, 04:14 AM #262
If the nolvadex is for water retention, try this instead
Herbal Classics Water Retention Tablets | Holland & Barrett - the UK’s Leading Health Retailer
My wife is on her first anavar cycle and she bloated really bad in the first couple of weeks,
She ran these for a few days along with B6 and it shifted it immediatley, i was shocked at how good they are,
im taking yohimbine at the moment and i started to get some water retention mainly in my cheeks, i took these with b6 and within a week my cheek bones were back.
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03-02-2016, 04:06 PM #263Originally Posted by TheTaxMan
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03-02-2016, 04:56 PM #264Originally Posted by mr.bb
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03-06-2016, 09:29 AM #265Female Member
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Here is my coach's reply as to the reasoning for Nolvadex :
Nolvadex (Tamoxifen ) blocks the effect of estrogen at the estrogen receptor, making it easier to burn fat in areas where fat loss is influenced by high estrogen - hips, midsection, thighs, etc. It's a very common drug in the bodybuilding world, used by both men and women. Any competitor that I have that is using Anavar , is likely also using Nolvadex precontest. VERY hard to get the legs/glutes very lean without it.
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03-06-2016, 02:34 PM #267
Estrogen Receptor Antagonism uncovers gender-dimorphic suppression of whole body fat oxidation in humans: differential effects of tamoxifen on the GH and gonadal axes
Mike: Here you go.
Megan: You can show this study to your so called coach.
Funny how in women actually suppresses fat oxidation.
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03-06-2016, 03:49 PM #268Female Member
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I just have it a quick read. That study is on post menopausal women. I would think in younger women the effects would be different due to the amounts of natural estrogen/testosterone /etc and other hormones that women post menopause would have.
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03-06-2016, 04:20 PM #269
By your logic all post menopausal women would be skinny.
Pre and post menopausal is where testosterone is highest in women. Sorry, they didnt have any study on bodybuilders for this breast cancer drug lol
Tamoxifen reducing fat is bro science, here's another study: Effect of the anti-oestrogen tamoxifen on plasma levels of luteinizing hormone, follicle-stimulating hormone, prolactin, oestradiol and progesterone in normal pre-menopausal women.
... so this one tells you there an estradiol increase while taking tamoxifen. Your "coach" says that this (increased) estradiol is blocked by tamoxifen, how does it does this? What proof does he has of it?
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03-06-2016, 05:13 PM #270
Thinking a bit more about it, the hormone levels of a female on anavar are probably closer to post-menopausal woman than of a normal woman, so this study completely applies.
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03-06-2016, 07:29 PM #271Female Member
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would that be due to the increase in testosterone compared to the level of estrogen?
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03-07-2016, 03:20 AM #272
Think you refering to androgens/estrogens ratio, yes. Probably even more androgens when you are taking anavar . And as most women get amenorrhea while on cycle, their ovaries are not producing much estradiol, at least not as much as ussual. So the situation is not so different from post menopausal IMHO.
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03-09-2016, 04:40 PM #273Female Member
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Look that makes a little sense...
This may be a dumb question but how can you test to make sure product is real?
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03-10-2016, 04:00 PM #274Originally Posted by megang
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03-12-2016, 10:07 AM #277Originally Posted by megang
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It is definitely a mental battle especially when the scale didn't move like you want or when pics don't show what you want to see. I know what I am doing is returning, I just need to stay consistent and patient with training and nutrition
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03-13-2016, 06:04 PM #280
period Bloat just messes with the mindset. Just stay the course!
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