TheTaxMan's Anadrol / Test E / Tren E log

[TheTaxMan]

Welcome to my log, this won't be an extreme detailed log, but will have weekly updates of how I'm getting on, how I'm feeling, side effects etc and some pictures of my progress. Wish me luck!

Starting stats:
Age 28
Height 5ft8.5
Weight 195lbs
Bodyfat % unsure

Cycle history:
21 years old, sustanon 500mg per week 10 weeks (no AI, poor diet)

22 years old, test e 500mg per week 12 weeks, deca 400mg per week 10 weeks (no AI, poor diet)

25 years old, test e 500mg per week 10 weeks (no AI, poor diet)

3 years change of lifestyle (had baby, found no time or interest in the gym for some time then looked at myself and thought "come on, get yourself back in the life style you love")

28 years old, blast and cruise with nandrolone and tren, this is my second blast and final blast before heading into an aggressive PCT

Current Cycle/Blast:
Anadrol 50mg ED weeks 1-4
Tren E 300mg p/week weeks 1-12
Test E 750mg p/week weeks 1-14
HCG 250iu x2 per week
AI 0.5mg Arimidex EOD

Cycle goals:
- Improve legs
- Improve chest
- Lose b/f
- Maintain size, even though I'm doing a cut I'm hoping my body will shock at my change of training and possibly gain some size a long the way.

Diet:
TDEE is 2850cals per day
Going for 2500cals per day

Meal 1: Protein shake
Meal 2: Sardines, 2 boiled egg whites, homemade protein cake
Meal 3: Oats, banana, half scoop whey, skimmed milk (250ml)
Meal 4: Chicken, rice, broccoli, veg
Meal 5: Oats, banana, half scoop whey, skimmed milk (250ml)
Meal 6: Meat or Fish, with rice or potato, veg
Meal 7: Low fat Greek yoghurt with an orange and berries

6 litres of water ED
Black Coffee as a pre workout

Supplements:
NAC liver support
Yohimbine
Liquid Garlic capsules
BCAAs
B6

Training:
For the last 8 months I've been training the same way, going for good technique, 10-12 reps, several exercises per body part.

This time I'm going for more intensity/low rest time and lifting as heavy as I possibly can, been picking up lots of tips from Marcus's dungeon thread so thanks for the help in there guys.

Cardio will be as best as I can and how I get on with the Tren!

Starting pics: pics are taken with no pump when I'm at work, hiding in the toilet

[krugerr]

Good luck mate!

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[AR's King Silabolin]

stil no bloodwork there tax?.....if not i think you should..blasting and crusing with 19 nors....

Specially prolactin values when you choose to not use a DA.

Did you manage to keep/increase your gains from your first blast during your cruise?

[TheTaxMan]

I'm at my doctor next week getting bloods, if there's any dangers I will come off the cycle.

Yes I kept like 90% of the gains

I finished nandrolone and test at about 204lbs, I cruises with test e for 9 weeks and my weight dropped to about 200lbs at like week 5, the last 4 weeks I've cleaned my diet up and now down to 195lbs

The drop in weight is mainly fat and water retention.

[bsh]

Why did u go with tren e... Just curious!

[TheTaxMan]

Why did u go with tren e... Just curious!

Why not?
I have ran Tren at 200mg per week and I loved the stuff, the aggression, the strength, want to have another run of it but at 300mg, I'm hoping it will also aid in melting some body fat, i know diet will predict the results of any compound but I do believe Tren is more likely to aid in some fat melting

Edit: you mean Tren e over Tren A?

I prefer to pin twice per week, not EOD
I don't mind pinning but I think I'd soon get sick of pinning EOD after a few weeks, I've always used long esters

[InternalFire]

good log man, keep on the record and lead the progress, good stuff, subbed!

[bsh]

Okay... I thought u had tren A last time... Just curious about the change..

I have some tren A on the way! I've never ran it before so I opt for a short ester in case the side were too much.. I ran a 19nor before deca, but never felt the desire for hardcore train ride up until now, lol...

Yeah brotha, keep a good log I'm in..

[AR's King Silabolin]

I'm at my doctor next week getting bloods, if there's any dangers I will come off the cycle.

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Nice
You need to check cholestrol, hematocrit, blood pressure, prolactin and e2. Bunch of others too, but i would be most concerned about those 5. Kidneys/liver also, but i guess those migth be within range as you prefer injectables.

[TheTaxMan]

Looking for body fat estimates from the pics in original post please?
Just to help me monitor my progress.
Thanks

[NACH3]

Subbed!

[Bio-Active]

I'll be following along as well

[InternalFire]

Looking for body fat estimates from the pics in original post please?
Just to help me monitor my progress.
Thanks

Hey, by the looks of it, it seems youre in between 15 to 20 % BF .

You may either have some water retention which would play tricks over photo's, or it may be fatty tissue but in general lookin ok man.

If I was to pick precise number I would call 17% BF

PS: your photos dont seem to open easy for me, I have to press multiple times and eventually to download to open them, wonder if its just me or the way you upload them? I'd say give a try to postimg.org , I found it to be real awesome at hosting pics and its 100% free too, also ads-free.

PPS: I myself use two ways of measuring my own BF, have plastic BF % calliper and omron body composition scales. Now I know these omron body composition scales work only to an extent but it gives good idea when using in conjunction with the BF calliper I can see where BF is as indicated and at areas where it is not its because of a stubborn fat such as abs and love handles or chest, just saying. But In general, BF calliper is cheap and not completely worthless piece of tool for self measuring BF %

[Mr.BB]

Im here too!

I'm at my doctor next week getting bloods, if there's any dangers I will come off the cycle.

Good luck asking NHS GP for hormonal labs, you will need a story

If you can get e2 test I will definitely be impressed!!

[krugerr]

Im here too! Good luck asking NHS GP for hormonal labs, you will need a story If you can get e2 test I will definitely be impressed!!

Once diagnosed and treated for TRT, I can book blood tests as I like now! And my surgery just asks me what I want tested when I arrive.

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[marcus300]

watching

[TheTaxMan]

Once diagnosed and treated for TRT, I can book blood tests as I like now! And my surgery just asks me what I want tested when I arrive.

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do the do e2 sensitive essay? last time i got bloods they did everything but that, she just said its a female hormone so cant be done?! do they do total and free test? i only remember getting one but cant remember, sure it was call serum or something.

@MrBB i managed last time to get one told them i abused steroids and cant get errections, she gave me viagra and told me to come after a few months after steroids to check everything, im just going to tell her im competing and had to do a cycle and would she be willing to check
my liver and cholestrol and hormones etc, shes nice and shes also flirty so i think im in with a chance of pulling it off

[AR's King Silabolin]

E2 can easily be done. I always get my e2 when i ask for it.
Dont be too advanced. They are not experts. Drop free test. If your total is ok, your free is most likely (90%) ok aswell.

But remember hematocrit and ldl and hdl cholestrol. To me those are the ones im most curious about, in mind what you have been taking last months:-)

[TheTaxMan]

true silabolin, ive been taking garlic oil capsuals to help cholestrol, it has good feedback and helps the heart.

need to see liver values too

is high hematocrit mean you have to donate? what exactly is it? what happens when its too high or too low? or what can happen?

if i am refuses bloods, would it make sense to donate blood anyway? theres no harm in donating? it could only help? - would they let me donate if my cholestrol etc is out? and taking steroids?

[Mr.BB]

is high hematocrit mean you have to donate? what exactly is it? what happens when its too high or too low? or what can happen?

if i am refuses bloods, would it make sense to donate blood anyway? theres no harm in donating? it could only help? - would they let me donate if my cholestrol etc is out? and taking steroids?

High hematocrit is the percentage of red blood cells in blood is too high, the medical term is polycythemia, google it.

No harm in donating. They dont care about a bit of cholesterol. If you tell them you take steroids you are banned forever, theres a bunch of questions about drugs and about your sex life, dont tell them you are visiting hoes.... opps, was this a secret?

[DanC11B]

Meal 1: Protein shake
Meal 2: Sardines, 2 boiled egg whites, homemade protein cake
Meal 3: Oats, banana, half scoop whey, skimmed milk (250ml)
Meal 4: Chicken, rice, broccoli, veg
Meal 5: Oats, banana, half scoop whey, skimmed milk (250ml)
Meal 6: Meat or Fish, with rice or potato, veg
Meal 7: Low fat Greek yoghurt with an orange and berries

holy shit if i ate all this i would be farting up a storm! SUBBED!

[TheTaxMan]

High hematocrit is the percentage of red blood cells in blood is too high, the medical term is polycythemia, google it.

No harm in donating. They dont care about a bit of cholesterol. If you tell them you take steroids you are banned forever, theres a bunch of questions about drugs and about your sex life, dont tell them you are visiting hoes.... opps, was this a secret?

cheers BB
so they dont test for stuff? its best just denying taking anything?

[TheTaxMan]

holy shit if i ate all this i would be farting up a storm! SUBBED!

ive had this diet for about 6 months now. farts were lethal first 8 weeks or so, body is used to it now i guess

just lowering the cals a bit to help lean in

[USVet81]

Good luck brother.

[TheTaxMan]

Hey, by the looks of it, it seems youre in between 15 to 20 % BF .

You may either have some water retention which would play tricks over photo's, or it may be fatty tissue but in general lookin ok man.

If I was to pick precise number I would call 17% BF

PS: your photos dont seem to open easy for me, I have to press multiple times and eventually to download to open them, wonder if its just me or the way you upload them? I'd say give a try to postimg.org , I found it to be real awesome at hosting pics and its 100% free too, also ads-free.

PPS: I myself use two ways of measuring my own BF, have plastic BF % calliper and omron body composition scales. Now I know these omron body composition scales work only to an extent but it gives good idea when using in conjunction with the BF calliper I can see where BF is as indicated and at areas where it is not its because of a stubborn fat such as abs and love handles or chest, just saying. But In general, BF calliper is cheap and not completely worthless piece of tool for self measuring BF %

just trying the website u told me about, is this better?

[InternalFire]

yea man, pics open now in new tab on single click of a button, I find it much better Im sure others will too

was my guestimate for BF something you was expecting or else?

[Mr.BB]

cheers BB
so they dont test for stuff? its best just denying taking anything?

Yes, they test for the important stuff (hiv, hep, etc), they might even check some other stuff like liver values but im not sure. Here they send me a sms a few days later saying my blood was normal and saying thank you.
The only thing you should restrain from donating in my opinion, is if you are taking isotretinoin (accutane) cause it will for sure cause fetus deformation if blood is given to a pregnant woman.

The some of the questions you have to lie, like taken any injectables etc, if you hesitate or try to tell the truth you will be refused on the spot. Really hate the sex questions, basically they can refuse you if you dont have the same sex partner last 6 months, think most ppl lie in this questions. Maybe in the UK is different, dont know for sure.

[InternalFire]

I would say why not look in to self-bleeding ? Just research this topic, from what I know lots folks do this too, and its not as scary as it seems to be from the first look

[TheTaxMan]

Yes, they test for the important stuff (hiv, hep, etc), they might even check some other stuff like liver values but im not sure. Here they send me a sms a few days later saying my blood was normal and saying thank you.
The only thing you should restrain from donating in my opinion, is if you are taking isotretinoin (accutane) cause it will for sure cause fetus deformation if blood is given to a pregnant woman.

The some of the questions you have to lie, like taken any injectables etc, if you hesitate or try to tell the truth you will be refused on the spot. Really hate the sex questions, basically they can refuse you if you dont have the same sex partner last 6 months, think most ppl lie in this questions. Maybe in the UK is different, dont know for sure.

thanks for all that info mate
all i can do is go in and see whats what

im not taking accutane or anything, had the same partner for 3 years.
i hear you get real dizzy after donating blood, hope it doesnt trigger my anxiety which ive kept under control really well for the last 8 months

[TheTaxMan]

I would say why not look in to self-bleeding ? Just research this topic, from what I know lots folks do this too, and its not as scary as it seems to be from the first look

fvck that i seen a vid of it, looks brutal, id rather a nurse do it, i can inject gear but i couldnt pin my own vein, id feel sick or pass out lol.

[TheTaxMan]

yea man, pics open now in new tab on single click of a button, I find it much better Im sure others will too

was my guestimate for BF something you was expecting or else?

yea i was expecting 16-18% but was hoping for 15%, im seeing changes every week since tidying diet and completley eliminating alcohol intake which ive had a soft spot for for a long time.

im just trying to get as close to 10% as possible over the next 13 weeks, id be happy with 12%

i could drop calories even more but dont want any muscle or size loss, id rather a steady cut

[InternalFire]

up your protein and drop your carbs, also increase cardio frequencies and if you hold on to your regimen at least for a few week trial you should see fat going away rather quick I would say, but there are few good diets to try, and dropping water weight and body-fat quick has alot to do with how much carbs you have in your diet. I did read few books in recent past where they stated that average 1g of glycogen in your body holds about 3g of water which in result makes you look puffy and fat, not necessarily its the fat that your body stores but it looks like it, so, just saying, but carb cycling may be something you wanna read in to, otherwise in general lowering your carbs just to keep you going to whatever minimum carbs you can deal with would be good approach I believe

[TheTaxMan]

to be honest the changes i have made are making decent progress which im happy with, cuting out 2000cals per week of beer and 4 cheat meals.

i think il stick to what im doing for now, and when things stall il look to change, but at the min im happy the way things are going, im eating a lot of protein, i have carbs in a lot of meals but they arent high, just enough to keep hunger away and energy levels for work and training there

[InternalFire]

of course man, if things are working for you, no need to fix them if there not broken, it was just a suggestion, but Im pretty sure you already knew all the options anyway at the end of the day, any diet can work well if the main ingredient in the equation is not forgotten - the consistency

[BG]

watching

You hAve issues.


Good luck tax.

[Mr.BB]

i hear you get real dizzy after donating blood, hope it doesnt trigger my anxiety which ive kept under control really well for the last 8 months

Dont be a pus*y

You get dizzy if your rbc is low or you are dehydrated, suspect you the exact opposite.
Dont try training the same day.

[InternalFire]

^ x2

get supervised first few times by a friend or someone who would catch you before you hit the floor or anything else, prepare educate yourself on the matter necessary and practice, and I would bet the third time you would do it like a pro. Not saying you must and you should, no, just saying its one of the easy options if you can prepare yourself for it.

seriously, would you rather risk your health or take some extra sh!t to thin your blood rather than self bleed if donating would become not an option?
Things do turnaround some times unexpected and you have to do what you must, man-UP

[TheTaxMan]

if i had to self bleed for life or death i would, what i meant is id rather sit in a comfy chair and the nurse do it while i stare at her titties, rather than sit in my bathroom with blood pissin out everywhere lol

[TheTaxMan]

i know bloodwork will give this a more accurate answer

but how often should i donate on this cycle? ive just registered online and can now book appointments, do i donate weekly? once a month?

[InternalFire]

I see folks that blast and cruise @ ~200mg test a week they would go in 3-4 times a year to donate, I dont know for certain but I think you should follow your bloodwork results and go by that, I would say first few donations and if you keep your cycles constant or B&C you could probably learn how your body works and when donating is due

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