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    Tren E Test E cycle (First Tren Cycle)

    Been a while since posting here on the forums but wanted to share this cycle for anyone interested.

    First I want to say the past 18 months or so was testing and separating Bro Science from Reality. Reality is everyone is different and we are all responsible for our own health. If you are not confident in your own health understanding then why would you want to take a substance that enhances any flaw in said health? Skipping the long path I have taken the results are as follows:

    Ancillaries:
    Alpha Blocker: lisinopril
    Beta Blocker: betaloc
    Blood Thinner
    Glucose Control Agent: metformin
    Join inflammation Control: ibuprofen
    Obvious Reasons: Cialis
    Pain Control: Tramadol
    Hypo gonadal: test E
    Estrogen control: aromasen
    Glucose and Water Retention Control: Lantus

    With these medicines I am rock solid to the point of perfect lab results. This includes lab tests while increased heart rate and physical exertion.

    Next, diet is 90 percent of fitness and maybe more than that important on a cycle. I hate all the names and people credited and crap but the original and most knowledgeable is Dan Duchane RIP. His theory on diet was basic carb deficit followed by loading. Adding this to the basic carbs in minus carbs out equal net results makes diet control more fun. My basic eating is excessively high protein moderate to low fat along with low to excessively low carbs. Normal meal is chicken breast stir fried in pepper juice, baby spinach and black fungus in vinegar with garlic, tomato and lettuce soup with egg and cillantro. Fruit and nuts when craved.
    i do not obsess on metrics. I am smart enough to know when my body needs carb loading. This is typically every 6th day.

    Next to say is workout. GVT is my favorite and keeps me from reaching higher weights too quickly when compared to joint support growth.

    M 10x10 Military Press
    5x4x6 Back and Shoulder Exercises
    W 10x20 Leg Press slash Squat
    3x4x6 Bicep Exercises
    F 10x10 Bench
    3x4x6 Tricep Exercises

    F

    Finally is the cycle.

    Week 1-10
    TrT dose Test E
    500 mg/week Tren E
    Aromasen daily TrT dose

    Week 11-16
    Step Tren +100 per week to test for "sides"

    Recovery
    Maintain TrT doses


    First pin Today

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    Chicagotarsier is offline Senior Member
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    5 week point.

    Heaven and Hell.

    Gains: Heaven

    Just eating enough to avoid light headedness...Hell.

    Never had so much trouble just putting food in my mouth. Having to put 25 percent of calories in as sugars that I wanted to be proteins.

    Drinking enough water is impossible....force 5L and still need more.

    Took hits on blood pressure, existing irregular heart beat and glucose level. Medicine adjustments and all fine.

    Always hot...yes...sweat...yes

    Sleep is good so tired...dreams are better than going to the movies.

    Libido took hit. Cialis was not enough to prevent it.

    Strength is through the roof.

    Weight on cycle is same as day before pin which means a 12-18 kilo weight drop. Muscle gain in shoulders and back evident to everyone. I am getting a bit worn out. I will do what it takes for 5 more weeks but that will be the end.

    Tren is all it is billed to be. I have no doubt a 10-15 kilo muscle gain retained will occur. It is not a cakewalk by a long shot. Third hardest thing I have ever done in my life. Body pain and waiting for tramadol and oxy to kick in is not a fun place to be.

    Does anyone know if Tren has a lower affinity for legs? It works great upper body....legs are not doing much. I would say growing less than before cycle. Possibly need more calories?

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    Now that I am back to HrT levels I want to point out one thing about Tren that seems to be very common but not as much talked about...Digestive Track "Issues"

    1. Stool is water to semisolid and it feels like you were punched in the gut by the Hulk. This did not go away through the cycle until 4 weeks after my last Tren pin.

    2. Acid reflux...burping.....acid belching...

    3. Yellow is the color of Tren Poop

    Researching across many steroid forums it is a consensus this is a normal side of Tren. Most agree that for this...and for acid reflux in general...an anti-acid is worthless. As I understand the small intestine builds pressure due to several mechanisms that Tren forces. I say Tren forces because it reduces stomach acid...which strange enough is the reason for acid reflux. That increased pressure pushes backwards against the low acid stomach.

    No real agreement on the Yellow stool but multiple people referenced that food that spends reduced time in the intestines does not get the dead blood cell percentage waste from the liver leaving it a yellower color. I dont know what to believe becuse the poop was almost florescent.

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    Well tren it's a progestin. Take a look at how progesterone affects bile flow and gut motility...

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1191632/
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11925620

    What you are reporting is steatorrhea. Yellow stool signals lack of bile.

    Reflux is likely due to reduced emptying rate.

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    I can almost guess how are my liver transaminases by the colour.

    All orals will do that to me, not tren or deca .

    I do have asymptomatic gallbladder stone (reaching 1,2 cm by last ultrasound), and prescribed UDCA for it.

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    How well mine have been that way since TRT, but my transaminases are fine.

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