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05-07-2017, 10:25 PM #1New Member
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TEST E 600mg/ew- 2nd CYCLE LOG W/PICS (MOVED FROM Q&A)
STATS:
23 y.o.
195lbs
Bf- 14% (+/- 2%)Calipers
BTW: I have been on this site over the course of the last probably 9 years reading logs and forums, other knowledge came from reading Anabolics 2006e.d. / Encyclopedia of Bodybuilding / Medical Journals on NCBI / my dietitian
Cycle History: 3 years ago ran Test E 500mg/ew week 1-12 w/ Dbol 50mg/ed week 1-4
Hows it going everyone?
Brief History: I got into lifting sophomore yr highschool through sophomore year of college, ran a cycle young which went well, but got too into partying and got way off track around same time PCT was starting and lost pretty much everything. Got real out of shape and barely lifted for 2 years. Last year I got fed up with my body and met with a R.D. I knew to get my diet back on track. Went from starting 220lbs at 25% body fat to 178lbs at 12% bodyfat. I spent this time getting very invested in studying Nutritional Biochemistry, the various steroid compounds and their processes, and bodybuilding. I am nowhere near ready to compete or anything, but in the future, I certainly would consider it. After getting back in shape, I re-fell in love with the sport and now know I am capable of reaching my goals.
I am running another cycle post cut, which I started 4 weeks ago. I should have waited and clean bulked for a bit to get my metabolism/hormones back in check after strict cutting diet and get my lbm up, but I let my impulsive behavior get the best of me. This being said, whats done is done, so I wanted to come here to record my progress and get advice along the way.
* I started too young, I am aware. I am still too young, I am aware. I am not big enough, I am aware. My bf is too high, I am aware. Please keep criticism to positive advice, not redundant bashing. I'm fully informed of the consequences to my actions.
GOALS
So after dropping all that weight and getting lean, I was pretty dissatisfied with my lbm. My goal is to add 15lbs of lean muscle, minimize bodyfat gain. I definitely added too much fat the first 2 weeks of the cycle with my diet off track and not being able to train hard with a neck injury. My LBM was around 158-162. I would like it to be around 175lbs. I prefer the classic physique look, Jeff Seid has a great build IMO. I know I am very far from but got to have a goal lol.
CYCLE:
WEEK 1-14
Test E 600mg/ew (300mg e3/5d)
Adex .25/eod
WEEK 6-16
HcG 250iu e3.5d
WEEK 16-20
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 100/50/50/50
DIET
*this has been modified as I go, macros are current, each meal varies a bit now that I have adjusted.
3050 kcal Meal Plan (2550kcal Off Day)
100g Fat (100g Exercise day) 220g Protein 310g CHO (250g Off Days)
Breakfast: (80g CHO, 50g Protein, 20g Fat)
2 Eggs and 1 cup Egg Whites (38g Protein, 10g Fat)
1 cup (Dry Measure) Oats OR 1.5 cup Potato OR 2 cup Cereal (40g CHO, 5g Protein)
1 cup/piece of Fruit (20g CHO)
¼ cup Avocado OR ¼ cup Cheese OR ½ Tbsp Oil
OR 1.5 scoops Whey with 10oz almond milk, ½ cup oats, 1 cup berries, ½ banana, 2 Tbsp Peanut Butter
Snack: (20g CHO, 35g Protein, 32g Fat)
½ cup Almonds (32g Fat, 16g CHO, 16g Protein) OR 1/4 cup Almond Butter
1 cup/piece of Fruit (20g CHO)
1 sccop whey (20g Pro)
Lunch: (70g CHO, 55g Protein, 20g Fat)
6oz Steak/Salmon/Cod/Flounder/Halibut/Chicken/Turkey/Beef (42g Protein, 10g Fat)
1.5 cup Quinoa/Sweet Potato/Rice/Pasta (63g CHO, 9g Protein)
1-cup cooked Non-Starchy Vegetables (8g CHO)
½ cup Avocado (12g Fat, 9g CHO, 2g Protein) OR 1 Tbsp Oil OR 2 Tbsp Dressing
(Easy Chipotle Meal bowl with guac on the side )
Pre: (30g CHO, 5g Protein, 10g Fat) Pre-workout Meal ** Skip on off days
1 Piece OR 1.5 cup Fruit (30g CHO)
1 Tbsp Almond Butter (8g Fat, 4g CHO, 4g Protein)
OR LaraBar as easy pre-workout snack
Dinner: (70g CHO, 55g Protein, 20g Fat)
6oz Steak/Salmon/Cod/Flounder/Halibut/Chicken/Turkey (42g Protein, 10g Fat)
1.5 cup Quinoa/Sweet Potato/Rice/Pasta (63g CHO, 9g Protein)
*1 cup Extra on training Days (2.5 cups total)
1 cup cooked Non-Starchy Vegetables (8g CHO)
½ cup Avocado (12g Fat, 9g CHO, 2g Protein) OR 1 Tbsp Oil OR 2 Tbsp Dressing
Evening: Option of 1 scoop protein with water/almond milk to curb appetite
I often sub protein bars due to busy work schedule.
WORKOUT
FST-7 REGIMEN
BI/TRI
CHEST/QUADS
OFF
BACK/GLUTES
SHOULDERS/CALVES
OFF
Then Repeat. I do 6 day rotations, I feel on cycle, recovery is quicker so an off day can be removed but thats personal preference.
PRE-MEASUREMENTS/STATS
WEIGHT -180LBS
BF% -12.5%
CHEST -40"
BI -15.2"
THIGH -22"
WAIST -35"
NAVEL -34"
FOREARM -12.5"
CALF -15.2"
SHOULDER WIDTH -50.4"
LIFTS
BENCH - 185X6
DEADLIFT - 285X3
MILITARY - 155X5
SQUAT - 265X5
INCLINE DB PRESS - 55X8
CLOSE GRIP BP - 135X6
NOTES
The very first day I pinned I pulled my neck playing bball lol. Diet was way off and could hardly move for a few days.
Didnt start Adex til a few days ago, started holding a ton of water and weight jumped. Lost a good bit of it now though.
PRECUT-POST CUT PICS
Last edited by WrongRoute; 05-07-2017 at 10:32 PM.
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05-07-2017, 10:27 PM #2New Member
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Day 24
DAY 24
Now that my diet is back in check, and water weight down, I feel much better. Still pissed I put on a decent share of fat being sloppy the first 2 weeks, but I made my bed and gotta sleep in it. I may use the last four weeks of the cycle to cut if I put on enough lean muscle in the remaining 6 weeks. Figured this will preserve a little more muscle rather than doing all the cutting post pct. Stats are below, happy with progress so far aside from waist/navals. I also included my pre caliper measurements and my current caliper measurements. The pre measurements are from a 7 fold from the dietitian, my current was only a 3 fold. Enjoy...
WEIGHT -195LBS
BF% -15%ISH
CHEST -44"
BI -16"
THIGH -23.3"
WAIST -36.2"
NAVEL -35.5"
FOREARM -13.6"
CALF -16"
SHOULDER WIDTH -51.3"
LIFTS
BENCH - 225X5
DEADLIFT - 315X3
MILITARY - 180X5
SQUAT - 295X5
INCLINE DB PRESS - 70X8
CLOSE GRIP BP - 165X6
CALIPERS PRE
CHEST-6
AB-18
THIGH-11
TRI-13
SCAP -9
LLIAC -10
MIDAX-7
CALIPERS CURRENT
CHEST-8
AB-20
THIGH-12
WEEK 1 ON CYCLE VS WEEK 4 ON CYCLE
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05-07-2017, 10:28 PM #3New Member
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DAY 30
BENCH - 235X6
DEADLIFT - 335X5
MILITARY - 185X8
SQUAT - 315X5
INCLINE DB PRESS - 75X10
CLOSE GRIP BP - 185X6
Ill add weight and measurements tomorrow. Feeling strong as hell, energy is good, mood is good, no sides thus far aside from a couple extra pimples here and there. I usually never get acne though so nothing too unusual. Def high libido which is nice, mine is typically on the lower end so its a great perk haha. Not happy with the bodyfat Ive put on though. My diet has been fine last 2 weeks, but there still was some minimal fat gain. If I wouldnt have been so loose the first 2 weeks, and gained fat at the rate I am now, I would be fine but its really bugging me. Highly considering either cutting a few pounds for 2 weeks, or staying on the lean bulk for another 4 weeks, then switching to a cut for the remainder of the cycle. Figure this will prevent muscle loss rather than doing it after pct. Even just 4-8 lbs would be nice. May even run the cycle for 14 weeks, bulk for 2 more, cut for 4, then lean bulk the last 4 weeks before pct. Who knows haha we will see how things go once everything is full force and I start packing on some more size. Ill be posting some more pics tomorrow, as well as more before pictures for comparison.
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05-07-2017, 10:29 PM #4New Member
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DAY 32
MEASUREMENTS
WEIGHT -195LBS
BF% -15%ISH
CHEST -44"
BI -16.3"
THIGH -23.3"
WAIST -36.3"
NAVEL -35.6"
FOREARM -13.8"
CALF -16.2"
SHOULDER WIDTH -53"
CALIPERS
CHEST-8
AB-21
THIGH-12
Here are some better pics for yall.
DAY 1 Somewhere around 195
DAY 32 Around 200
POST-CUT/DAY1/DAY32 180lbs to 195ish to 200ish
A little over 4 weeks now, diet is straightened out, taking in between 2500kcal-3500kcal depending on my workout and what I got going on that day. Weight is still shooting up, may have to cut calories a little bit, or atleast cut back on the the 3500kcal days. All my lifts are up, no sides, continuing .25mg adex ed to control water. Happy thus far but definitely looking forward to cutting. Im thinking Ill continue the bulk for another 4 weeks, then switch to maintenance for 2 weeks, then go at a 500kcal deficit for another 4 weeks before ending my cycle. Id like to trim some fat while still on so I can prevent muscle loss as opposed to trying to cut after pct. If I were to wait til the after, I would want a month continuing to bulk until my natty levels are back, which means Id be packing on even more fat which I want to avoid. I figure if I bulk for another 4 weeks, I should be able to keep 5-10lbs muscle when all is said and done. Ill probably toss winny in for the last 4 weeks as well. I will begin HcG here in another week or two.Last edited by WrongRoute; 05-07-2017 at 10:38 PM.
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05-27-2017, 08:52 PM #5New Member
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I'm not much older then you so I can't comment on age but body wise you should of trained harder without any juice imo. But hey I'm not here to tell you what to do at the end of the day you'll do what you want. Im just saying what I would of done.
Anyway I can see the difference from day 1 and day 32.
Got a bit leaner, traps looking awesome, you can see the shoulder difference and slight bicep difference.
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07-12-2017, 10:33 AM #6New Member
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miring the progress, i'm big fan of jeff seid too
just curious, any side effects during your first cycle?
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