T400 & NPP cycle

**Tacosngains** · 01-20-2018, 05:55 PM

32 years old on my first cycle after 7 weeks of trt doing 140mg of test cyp. The t400 is 150c 150 p and 100 e. Npp 200mg
Im running .6 test and .5 npp on m & f and another .5 npp on Wednesday. Does this seem adequate for results on a first cycle?
Currently at 6'1" 185lbs and not sure on the body fat. I take daily supplements and multivitamins. Pretty good diet, but could use improvement.

**Back In Black** · 01-21-2018, 02:39 AM

Wow. Just wow. You waited a whole 7 weeks of TRT before your started a cycle and included deca in it? Why the delay?

Any HCG ? AI? DA to hand? Your T400 has prop in it so why only run 2 x per week?

Seriously you should have waited til you had your TRT dialled in (that can take up to a year) before you start cycling. Even then the recommendation would be to run test only.

I bet TRT plus a much improved diet would have given you great results.

**Tacosngains** · 01-21-2018, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by Back In Black

Wow. Just wow. You waited a whole 7 weeks of TRT before your started a cycle and included deca in it? Why the delay?

Any HCG ? AI? DA to hand? Your T400 has prop in it so why only run 2 x per week?

Seriously you should have waited til you had your TRT dialled in (that can take up to a year) before you start cycling. Even then the recommendation would be to run test only.

I bet TRT plus a much improved diet would have given you great results.

Trt was through a clinic and was costing a rediculous amount of money. Could not continue to go down that path. So i got my own. I can get my hands on aromasin or arimidex , but from what I have seen npp is less estrogenic than many other choices.
To answer your question on why twice a week with the t400... Your answering my question with another question. I posted this for insight and joined to learn from others and grow. Not to be grilled.

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**Back In Black** · 01-21-2018, 11:40 AM

Ok buddy, sometimes asking questions helps us to help people but there you go.

I’ll answer your only question - after 7 weeks of TRT And and additional however many weeks of increased test and deca you should be seeing more than adequate results already.

Just in case you are interested read this and best of luck

My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

**GearHeaded** · 01-21-2018, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by Tacosngains

32 years old on my first cycle after 7 weeks of trt doing 140mg of test cyp. The t400 is 150c 150 p and 100 e. Npp 200mg
Im running .6 test and .5 npp on m & f and another .5 npp on Wednesday. Does this seem adequate for results on a first cycle?
Currently at 6'1" 185lbs and not sure on the body fat. I take daily supplements and multivitamins. Pretty good diet, but could use improvement.

that would not be the first cycle advise I would have given , 300-500mg of just test e would of been plenty. however you already started and your starting dosages are fine for now (I would switch your dosing to EOD protocol for more consistent blood levels though)..

how long have you been training ?
from your stats I would assume not very long at all, as 185 pounds is pretty light for your 6'1" height, and that would lead me to assume your diet could really use some work as well. you need to put on a good 30 pounds of quality tissue, and you can only do that with proper training and a stellar high calorie diet.

hit the diet section of the forum. you'll get more gains if you optimize your diet and not just depend on drugs

**Tacosngains** · 02-24-2018, 03:46 PM

Update... Cycle has been going great. Good solid gains. Weight has gone up 18lbs, noticeable change in upper body. Waist still at a 34 but pants are tighter in the thighs and glutes. Diet has helped dramatically. Let me know about questions and id be happy answer.

Also working on putting together a cutting cycle after a couple months of cruising just want to get it figured out while i have the extra money laying around. Let me know if you have any experience with this stack.
Test E 300mg
Primo E 100mg
Mast E 200mg

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**GearHeaded** · 02-24-2018, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by Tacosngains

Update... Cycle has been going great. Good solid gains. Weight has gone up 18lbs, noticeable change in upper body. Waist still at a 34 but pants are tighter in the thighs and glutes. Diet has helped dramatically. Let me know about questions and id be happy answer.

Also working on putting together a cutting cycle after a couple months of cruising just want to get it figured out while i have the extra money laying around. Let me know if you have any experience with this stack.
Test E 300mg
Primo E 100mg
Mast E 200mg

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are those dosages per day or per week.. imo, unless your just cruising on primo, it needs to be ran 800-1000mg per week. Mast 600+ per week.
you could probably get by with just one or the other , mast or primo., not both (running both is more for show prep). actually you could probably get by running only Test. however having said that, Primo and Mast are very clean and have little sides and no E conversion.

**Tacosngains** · 02-24-2018, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by GearHeaded

are those dosages per day or per week.. imo, unless your just cruising on primo, it needs to be ran 800-1000mg per week. Mast 600+ per week.
you could probably get by with just one or the other , mast or primo., not both (running both is more for show prep). actually you could probably get by running only Test. however having said that, Primo and Mast are very clean and have little sides and no E conversion.

Thats just the label. I havnt put a regimen to anything yet. Still doing research on it.

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**Tacosngains** · 03-24-2018, 05:28 PM

**Update: I finished this cycle off and im back to cruising for awhile (.75cc cyp a week) As far as gains i gained 28lbs and added 1.25" to my arms. I didnt measure my chest before but its noticibly bigger. I started to see some estro sides along the way and knocked them out with some aromasin . (12.5 eod then e3d) still hitting the gym hard and diet is still in check. Im going to start putting together a cutting cycle early may.

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