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12-27-2001, 09:24 PM #1New Member
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My contest prep info for a major show!! cycles and everything !!
Hello,
My name is project X. I will keep you in suspense and will not reveal my identity untill a week before contest. The contests are NPC National level shows and only the best of the best will be there. My goal is to crack top five in each show which are 4 weeks apart. As of tonight My weight was 225lbs 7.5 % bf at 5'9. 28 years old. I have been clean for a good 5 months. My friend introduced me to pro hormones and suggested i use them to get my body anabolically ready and his theory worked. I started them 4 weeks ago and have gotten alitte more size and alittle bit of strength. I using 4 -nordiol 25 mgs and 4 -androdiol 75 mgs in a cyclodextrin form. I suck on them on the way to the gym for 5 -10 miniutes untill all dissoved
supplements glutemine, creatine, 4-nordiol, 4-androdiol subligular , whey protein isolate , dextrose and maltodextrin, multiviatmen, vitamin C, E Digestive ezyymes, TOTAL EFAS, calmcuim mg zinc
I will be bring you further up dates each week and pics as well of the transformations
Cycle starts in a week and i will post regime
Diet (following massive eating plan) www.t-mag.com
400-420g protein (40g whey isolate before work out , 75g whey isolate post work out )
275-300g carbs (75-100 grams taken post work out grams taken pre workout)
120-150 g fat (over 40% EFAS)
one cheat meal a week usually on off days - saturday
cardio: 5 times a week post workout 15-20 minutes sub maximal
training : 5 days a week
This thread is to proof you don't need large amounts of drugs to be at the top level and I hope it is an inspiration to people to not to substitue large amounts of drugs for lack of nutrition and hard work, and discpline it takes to reach your goals.
Any questions do not hesitate and pm me
We are here to help one another and to learn from each other's mistakes to help each other succed in what ever one's goals may be. Bodybuilding is all about commrodery. Its not about who you beat or how you placed. its all about self improvements you make each year. Only person your competing against is your self and don't any of us forget it
I would like to thank Anthony DeAngelis NGA PRO for all his training and nutrition guidence through out the years.Last edited by Project X; 01-08-2002 at 01:17 PM.
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12-28-2001, 01:08 AM #2
cycles and everything!!
Where's the cycle?
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12-29-2001, 05:20 PM #3
oh yeah...!
shit if you can crack top 5 in your first shot at the npc nationals, i will personally shake your hand. why do i say that....cuz i will be there at both the usa's and nationals here in dallas. i did the nats this year without any help, and yes i did get well up there, but i then again was real in my expectations.
good luck!
-steel
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01-01-2002, 08:49 PM #4New Member
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project x week 1 pics
I have decided to hold off on my cycle for another month. This will give me a chance to tighten up alittle more so when i do start it will make the chemicals much more effective. I'm going to stay on the prohormones and normal supplements for another 4 weeks and change some things around.
weght training the same
back, traps
chest, calves, abs
rest
legs
arms,abs
shoulders, calves
rest
cardio: changes
5 days a week 25 minutes post work out
diet i cut to 4200 caloires instead of 4500
carbs and fats cut slightly
protein still 400-420 g
carbs 275-300 g
fats 110 g
will take pics next week as well
Pics taken this past sunday
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01-01-2002, 09:05 PM #5
steelblazin,
Not that I am disagreeing, but how do you know Nationals are in Dallas? I've looked at a few sites and haven't seen anything.
Lemme know
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01-02-2002, 08:52 PM #6
well.....lemme see
i live here in texas, about an 1 1/2 hours from dallas. also, i compete nationally, so it's in my best interest to know where my shows would be. if you can't find the contest info guestposer, try this site. www.mostmuscular.com, they cover all the national shows, as well as www.ironmanonline.com
dallas should be a texan friendly contest...maybe i can get one up on X!
see ya'll there in november.
-steel
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01-02-2002, 08:54 PM #7
oh yeah...guestposer, no flame or sarcasm intended.
hey X, looks good dude, i got ya on the quads though!
-steel
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01-03-2002, 10:12 PM #8Originally posted by steelblazin
oh yeah...guestposer, no flame or sarcasm intended.
-steel
It is in my best interest to know as well but I had checked a few sites (not recently) and hadn't seen anything. I <i>DID</i> check the NPC newsletter though and confirmed it.
Try to be a little more hospitable to a native Texan though.
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01-04-2002, 10:04 PM #9
hospitable huh!
let me see, i think it was you who cast the first stone on doubting my contest knowledge. anyways, i don't get on this board to start flaming wars. i'd go to elite to do that. i only offer the knowledge that i am for sure on.
besides..your profile says colorado!
laterz
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01-04-2002, 10:44 PM #10
You look great. Huge and pretty lean. Your wheels might need a little beefin up to make them proportional with that huge upper body but Nov. is a long way away. Could be the shorts. Good luck Bro.
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01-04-2002, 11:54 PM #11
First of all, noone was doubting your "knowledge" of anything. I simply asked you a fucking question.
And where I live <I>now</I> has nothing to do with simply answering a question politely.
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01-05-2002, 01:21 AM #12
Chill out bro.. The internet is no place to start a fight. Sometimes we take things the wrong way. I saw nothing in the first few posts for you guys to get so upset about so step back and check your selves.
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01-05-2002, 08:23 AM #13
whatever man.
i would suggest not making jacked up comments to me like that again. if all you had to was start a flaming war then whatever. i've been here long enough to know better.
this is squashed....period.
next....
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01-06-2002, 02:06 PM #14
Bro, you're looking good. Very nice size, and you're already lean. Keep doin what you are doing. If you ever want to cross the line, which I DO NOT reccomend what so ever, hollar at us and we'll write you a doozy.
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01-07-2002, 08:53 PM #15New Member
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week 2
i'm now in week 2 of contest prep. On sunday I weighed exactly the same as last week (224), but i got alittle tighter and fuller, the previous night I went with a few of my friends to an all you can eat sushi bar for my cheat meal. We were there for almost 2.5 hours eating. Sushi made me very vascular and very tight mostly proabably from all the sodium in it. I notice my face is getting leaner and jaw line is getting more pronounced and more seperations in my shoulders, and in my quads. legs are startring to get alittle harder as well as my mid section
diet stayed at
420 g protein
275-300 g carbs
100-120 gram fat
water intake:same
cardio: 5 times a week at 25 minutes post work out
supplements: same as previous week
this week I may add in Tribestan at 4 pills a day (2 with meal one and 2 with pre work out meal)
pic will be posted next week for week three
I would like to thank Sassey69 Female modr from ELite for formating my pics : )
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01-07-2002, 09:01 PM #16
Lookin good bro, whats your cycle gonna look like. Peace, Doc.
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01-11-2002, 12:01 PM #17New Member
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Ok guys here is what I decided on let me know what you think
ad sus 250/ eq
week 1 1 1 sus every 4-5 days cocktailed 200 mgs eq
week 2 1 " "
week 3 1 " "
week 4 1 " "
week 5 1/2 " "
week 6 " '
week 7 " "
week 8 " 50 mgs/winny/ day 75 mgs fini/100mgs eq m,w,f "
week 9 " "
week 10 " "
week 11 " "
week 12 " " 75 mgs finiplex 2 halo/day
week 13 " " "
week 14 clomid 100/ day
week 15 " "
week 16 50 mg/day
clen from week 8 till show time 2 weeks on 2 weeks off with ECA stack on off time
GH: 3 ius a day week 3-10 5 days on 2 off
insuilin 10 us post work out from week 4-8
no t-3
liquidex 1/8 cc every day week 1-5 then 1/8 cc every other day till end of clomid therapy
let me know what you guys think
thanks
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01-13-2002, 07:55 AM #18Associate Member
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hi bro
carnt wait to see the results,get those pics in as soon as posible,keep it up man.is there any prize money in the show ??
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01-14-2002, 09:53 PM #19New Member
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Good luck in the show. You can see the transformation already. My buddy is getting ready for the same show. He is going in as a heavyweight. Right now he is 5'8" and 255.
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01-16-2002, 02:32 AM #20Associate Member
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Super nice upper body. We need to see the legs though! Dont cover em. Im not clear on what show/s you are getting ready for? Or did you say?
The contests are NPC National level showsis there any prize money in the show ??
SB... throw some valium into your stack. I didnt know where Nationals where yet either.
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01-16-2002, 08:17 AM #21ptbyjason Guest
Project X, you look great bro. I should be at Nationals this year since it will be in Dallas (only watching though ). Will look forward to cheering you on.
TO WHOM THIS CONCERNS: Arguing about something in this man's thread is rude. You have no right to do that in his thread and try to take away from it in anyway. If you want to argue, TAKE IT TO PMs. Come on guys you have been here long enough to know the rules. Show a little netiquette.
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01-17-2002, 07:58 AM #22New Member
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Contest I will be doing are the Jr. USA's in Philadelphia April 29 and the junior natinoals in chicago June 16. Hope this helps !
ptbyjason this is an awesome site. information is so much more realistic then other boards I have been in and the people are much nicer and not at each others throat. keep up the good work. If I had time I could be a mod, but unfortunately I don't
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01-17-2002, 03:30 PM #23Associate Member
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Ill be at Jr. N. Ill go around asking everyone if theyre project x, just to say hi. I hope you dont show up on the 16th though cause well all be there on the 15th.
So do we get to see some legs???
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01-17-2002, 04:59 PM #24Female Member
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I will probably be there helping a friend of mine who is competing...then again if i qualify for it in may, i may just do it for the hell of it
haha...right bufchic?What happens here, stays here
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01-17-2002, 07:16 PM #25
hey project x ..everythings coming on jus fine ,,, jus maintain a positive mindframe during the last few weeks!! ....secondly did u do an offseason cycle ?? if yes what was it ?? and how much did u gain ?? thanxs..
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01-17-2002, 10:12 PM #26Associate Member
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then again if i qualify for it in may
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01-18-2002, 09:27 AM #27New Member
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No bro,
No off season cycle. I start 12 weeks out and grow right into show time. Currently I'm weighing 220 and alot leaner and still ahven't started my cycle not till feb 1st thats 12 weeks befoe the show. And I know what my capabiitiies are when I do start my cycles. The longer you have been clean the better you respond to less doasages. Feb 1 I will be clean for 7 months and still holding upto 90% of my gains retained. As stated before I don;t really on drugs to get big, but to hold what you have when you diet down. I have a good freind A. Deangelis who is a natural NGA pro endursored by a major supplement company. With his help of training and nutrition. I am able to gain size while still clean. Hey Primodonna (aka xtc ) Hint Hint LOL, its going to be good to finally get to meet you after all these years. here is my cureent work outs To:
Remember this is being clean for 6 months !!
flat chest
flat bench 135 , 225,315,365,385,405 for 4 -5 reps
flat dumbell presses 130,140,150 for 10 reps each
pec dec 100,110,120 (8-10 reps)
biceps
long bar curls 3 sets of 6-8 reps 165,175,185
incline preacher machine 3 sets of 6-8
aletrnating dumbell curls 2 sets of 8-10 60,70,75
rope hammer curls 2 sets 8 -10 reps
calves
3 sets standing rack, rck plus 45x2, rack plus 45x3
3 sets seated
quads
leg extensions - 3sets of 10 reps
squats 3 sets of 6-8 nicreasing weight 455,500,525
leg presses 3 sets of 6-8 reps 10, plates each side, 12 plates, 14 plates
adductors 2 sets of 15 reps
incline chest
incline benches presses 275,315,335
3 sets of 6-8 reps
hammer strength incline 3 45's 3 45's + 25, 4 plates
3 sets of 6-8 reps
shoulders 3 sets 6-8 reps
miltary press 225,255,275
side lateral 50 ,55,60
frontals raises 25,35,40
triceps 3 sets of 6-8
close grips 315, 365,365
push downs
kick backs 25,35,40
back 3 sets of 6-8 reps
pulldown s to front rack, rack + 45, rack plus 45+25
bent over rows 275,315,365
hammer strngth rows 4 plates, 5, plates, 6 plates both sides
lat pull ups to failure
ham string - 3 sets of 6 -8 reps
lying leg curls
stiff legged dead lifts 405 475, 525
day 1: back, hamstrings, cardio
day 2: flat presses, bicpe, calves, cardio
day 3:rest, cardio
day 4 : quads
day 5:rest
day 6: shoulders, upper chest, triceps,cardio
day 7:rest,cardio
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01-18-2002, 10:45 AM #28Female Member
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Originally posted by Project X
Hey Primodonna (aka xtc ) Hint Hint LOL, its going to be good to finally get to meet you after all these years.
You have made some major improvements...and we'll finally be dieting togetherWhat happens here, stays here
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01-18-2002, 12:13 PM #29New Member
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Buff Chick,
I have wheels, but I like to keep people in suspense. and yes primo i have made some major leaps and bounds since we have first conversed years ago. My stength has really increased from the style of training and my very tight eating habits. People that aren't geared know that eating habit to mbe meticulaous in order to achieve desired results. This year again to hopefully break top 5 at the Jr. Usas and also Top 10 or even top 5 in the junior natinals. My wheels my not appear to be big now but real bodybuilders do not get judged off season, but rather on stage !! plus also remember that I am also clean so one can imagine when i get ready to roll I need to only diet for 8-6 weeks for a show to come in peak condition, Again i hope to make the light heavy weights becuase I can not afford to gain too much weight thatswhy i'm leaning down with out anything so I can just gain lean mass and no bloat !!
PS PRIMO YOU STILL OWE ME PICS BABE
I hope this thread contiunes to grow and people can not only see the transformation, but may learn a little bit as well from it
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01-18-2002, 01:40 PM #30Associate Member
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Hey now, I didnt say you didnt have legs. Some of the best legs Ive seen on guys where being covered by long, loose shorts. Then POW... there they are. I just feel you should show your physique to its full potential.
real bodybuilders do not get judged off season, but rather on stage
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01-18-2002, 02:46 PM #31New Member
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Buff chick,
My philopshy is that I never show goods becuase that takes away all the mystery. The best words to describe me is a
SLEEPER!!!!!
People have always busted on my legs that why I never train in shorts! In high school I was called chicken legs. They aren't really huge, but they do get incredible ripped. Cuts get so deep you can stick quarters in them. Its all about symmtry, I have more then enough size. Women where i'm at hate Bodybuilder's mostly for the fact that are jealous and would never have half the discpline it takes for any feamale or male in excellent shape. One thing Bodybuilding has taught me is commodery and also lots of discpline. No other sport has given me this !
Peace out
project X
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01-18-2002, 03:09 PM #32Associate Member
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I can understand. I show up at pre judging in a warm up suit covered head to toe.
Excuse me.....ahum.....fuck those woman. I have always said that woman that dont like bb guys are jealous and feeling insecure. 90% of them anyhow, the rest Im sure its just not for them. They are exactly the reason I dont have but 1 or 2 female friends.
There is NOTHING like a bb.
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01-18-2002, 05:54 PM #33Originally posted by bufchic
There is NOTHING like a bb.
Its amazing how people just dont understand our culture. Now i must say im only a student in college but i am consumed by the BB lifestyle. I have to explain to my peers why I dont eat too many carbs and why i go to the gym twice, once for cardio the second to lift, and also why im trying to reach a certain amount of protein each day. Its a lifelong commitment that some dont care to understand, of course i dont totally restrict myself, I have fun. I just like the lifestyle and it feels great to have someone(especially a female) show their gratitude. Peace, Doc.
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01-18-2002, 09:39 PM #34New Member
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I agree. It really is increadible how people just dont understand our sport and lifestyle. The stares and comments just get annoying after awhile. Just because we have the dedication to bust our asses in the gym, with our diets and choose to look a certain way we get stereotyped as muscleheads, steroid users, etc. I think it freaks people out when they find out I am a corporate lawyer, although I try to hide it from the people at work. It is amazing what a suit will cover up. People know I work out alot, but thats all. Sometimes when I am on, people at work will make comments but I brush them off. I agree with bufchic. Most people are just jealous of how we look and anyone who says otherwise is bullshitting you.
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01-19-2002, 02:36 AM #35
[QUOTE]Originally posted by hugegunz
I agree. Just because we have the dedication to bust our asses in the gym, with our diets and choose to look a certain way we get stereotyped as muscleheads, steroid users, etc. [/QUOTE
So tru, so tru. I completely agree with you. Because i know how to follow a strict diet, i am considered a steroid user because my diet reflects my gains.
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01-19-2002, 02:54 AM #36
Good Luck bro !
Looking good and good luck in the upcoming shows. Hope you place weel, and I like the confidence you show. That goes a long way in projecting on stage.
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01-26-2002, 08:42 PM #37New Member
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MY FINALLY ANSWER - start this week
Suggestions if any- i tried to plan this the best i can with as little checmicals as possible
calculated its averages out to about 600-800 mgs a week this is my threshold anything more then that i think is a waste for me at least, my receptors are wide open and rearing to go
I got 12 weeks to go till first show !!
Week 1-4
1/2 ad 50 a day
week week 1-8
1 sus 1 cc eq (200 mg)every 4 days
week 4-11
gh 3 ius a day 5 days on 2 days off
week 3-8
insulin 5 ius working up to 10 ius post work out
week 8- contest week 12
75 mgs of tokkoy tren with 100 mgs eq m,w,f
50 mgs winny every day 25mgs split up in am and pm
clen 2 weeks (max 100mcgs a day) on 2 week Eca stack
2 week before contest
20 mgs halotestin a day
liquidex .5 every day through out cycle
current stats
5'9 220-225 at 6% bf ( been drug free since last august) hoping to make the light heavy weights for jr. Usas April 27 and junior nationals june 16
diet as of now spread over 7-8 meals
400-420 protein
300-325 carbs
100-120 fats mostly EFAs, cashews, and other nuts and oils
cardio is at 20-25 minutes 4 days a week post work out
weights heavy and intense 5 days a week
I have new pics coming very soon once sassy 69 gets them edited
and changes have been very noticeable !! alot more symetry
any suggestion would be greatly appreciated
remeber its not what you look like now but what you look like day of the show !! GOD I HOPE I CAN MAKE MY CLASS !!
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01-26-2002, 09:29 PM #38Associate Member
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Your stack doesnt look too bad. At your weight you need more GH. 3 IUs isnt gonna cut it.
If your looking to hit light heavies that may be tough if you are already at 6%. You dont have another 20-25 to lose. And your water will only be 2-3lb. You had better up those carbs! Cause without enough you are going to lose muscle, no matter how much shit your taking. All that protein is totally unnecessary. Do some extra cardio come in in better "condition".
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01-31-2002, 07:48 PM #39New Member
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Sorry guys it took so long to get pics up, but i have been very busy. I just started my first week of my cycle and things are going pretty well. don;t know whether its the prop from the sus kicking in but i noticed alittle kick from some thing. Doing long bar curls with 185 for 8 reps hasn't been a normal for me.
got 13 weeks and counting
Diet is prety much the same
400 grams protein
350 carbs - went up alittle but not bad
120 fat
cardio is at 20-25 minutes 4 times a week not on leg day or day after
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02-06-2002, 04:16 PM #40
Damn, bro. You're getting thick as hell!!! I'm jealous!! LOL
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