5 weeks into enanthate results... feedback please...

**smallchecks** · 07-20-2006, 04:29 AM

Hey guys, i am a little over 5 weeks in on my enan cycle... Feedback on what needs to be improved much appreciated..

ps.. leg shots are on the way.. and back and bi pics are down a ways.. thanks guys!

**Kale** · 07-20-2006, 04:32 AM

What about a before pic, those two are the same pic. Also I wouldn expect any change in five weeks of Test E, it hasnt even started working yet.

**smallchecks** · 07-20-2006, 04:34 AM

I am looking for before right now... I have gained about 5-7 lbs so far, that was with a dbol just start though.. so you think lots of good gains still to come??

**Kale** · 07-20-2006, 04:36 AM

Hell yes if you are eating right and have agood wokout routine in place

**smallchecks** · 07-20-2006, 04:37 AM

check and check!

**Carlos_E** · 07-20-2006, 05:52 AM

Post your diet.

Week 4-5 is when the magic usually happens. If you're eating enough, strength and gains should be kicking in.

**biglouie250** · 07-20-2006, 08:24 AM

eat eat eat eat!!!! your really lean, put some mass on!

**Lavinco** · 07-20-2006, 08:29 AM

Good base. Just bulk up now.

**smallchecks** · 07-20-2006, 09:36 AM

11 am bfast- 4 eggs, 1.5 cut oatmeal with banana and choc whey, protein shake
2pm- steak and pasta, pasta gives me more energy before workout
3pm workout- pwo shake... 70 grams protein, 60 gram dextrose, 5g glutamine

6pm-2 chickens, rice, veggy, mostly brocali

9ish- steak

before bed 4 more boiled eggs, whey protien with water

I want more mass but not at the expense of fat.. any suggestions where or what to add??

**getpumped24** · 07-20-2006, 10:14 AM

eat more. throw some cottage cheese, yogurt, natty p-nut butter, baked potatoes, rice ,olive oil, and fish in there. it is almost impossible to bulk w/o some fat. you are very lean, a little fat won't hurt. you can burn it off after bulking.

**smallchecks** · 07-20-2006, 10:17 AM

Thanks get pumped... what kind of yogurt do you suggest?? I know a lot of it is packed with sugar and no nutritional value?? I live in the CZ so my options my be semi limited.. any ideas??

**dedic8ed1** · 07-20-2006, 11:26 AM

you should match your carbs with your protein after tour workout,carbs are whats gonna make you bigger,you need glycogen for size.

**smallchecks** · 07-20-2006, 11:33 AM

So more carbs in pwo shake... what about throughout the rest of the day.. i eat carbs 4 times a day.. should i add more??

***Alex*** · 07-20-2006, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by smallchecks

11 am bfast- 4 eggs, 1.5 cut oatmeal with banana and choc whey, protein shake
2pm- steak and pasta, pasta gives me more energy before workout
3pm workout- pwo shake... 70 grams protein, 60 gram dextrose, 5g glutamine

6pm-2 chickens, rice, veggy, mostly brocali

9ish- steak

before bed 4 more boiled eggs, whey protien with water

I want more mass but not at the expense of fat.. any suggestions where or what to add??

1. how come your first MEAL is at 11 am?
2. pwo meal is not good, have ashake and 20-30 min later have a solid meal with lots of quick carbs.
3. you only have 3 whole food meals in your diet, you should eat 5-6 whole meals while ON.
4. try eatting every 2 - 2 1/2 hours.

you look very lean, you will look great when your done with this cycle (but only if you eat right/a lot)

**jef** · 07-20-2006, 12:14 PM

look fine to me. probably 8%bf. what are your goals? I'd keep doing what you're doing for summer then put on a little more mass this fall/winter. If it were me, i'd get the diet picture perfect too and try and cut as much as possible

**smallchecks** · 07-20-2006, 12:15 PM

Thanks for the input Alex! Here are some answers to your questions...
1) this is an easy one... that is when i wake up

2).. contents in pwo shake not good?? is that what you are saying?? just want to clarify.. and i take public transportation and it takes an hour to get home.. sucks.. i know! so i eat almost right when i get here..
3)I will def add more solid food in there so thanks for that and i always try to eat every 2-3.... its been keeping me lean.. as i mentioned before, i am weiry of adding fat%

**smallchecks** · 07-20-2006, 12:18 PM

thanks jef.. i appreciate the comments.. as far as goals are concerned... i have been as high as 225 with weight but was very smooth.. when i moved to the EU i dropped to like 195.. so the goal was just to put on some solid mass but to stay lean.. so far so good i think but advice from this board always helps...

***Alex*** · 07-20-2006, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by smallchecks

Thanks for the input Alex! Here are some answers to your questions...
1) this is an easy one... that is when i wake up

2).. contents in pwo shake not good?? is that what you are saying?? just want to clarify.. and i take public transportation and it takes an hour to get home.. sucks.. i know! so i eat almost right when i get here..
3)I will def add more solid food in there so thanks for that and i always try to eat every 2-3.... its been keeping me lean.. as i mentioned before, i am weiry of adding fat%

1. ok......what the hell do you do at night.

2.pwo is great , but you need some whole foods pwo as well. do this bring a shake and 2 silces of white bread or white rice to the gym. and eat it right after the work out. when you ge home eta another solid meal.

3.good luck.

**smallchecks** · 07-20-2006, 01:20 PM

What do I do at night?? Good question Alex

I am in quite a different situation right now to say the least

I do nothing!

Interesting huh??

So from here on out I will def take some solid food with me to the gym... Thanks a ton and I welcome more feedback!!

***Alex*** · 07-20-2006, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by smallchecks

What do I do at night?? Good question Alex

I am in quite a different situation right now to say the least

I do nothing!

Interesting huh??

So from here on out I will def take some solid food with me to the gym... Thanks a ton and I welcome more feedback!!

no problem , you are in a great shape as it is. i would like to see the finished product. good luck.

**smallchecks** · 07-20-2006, 03:11 PM

Thank again for the encouragement, i will definatley repost in 7 weeks..

**ImACrazyJewDaddy** · 07-20-2006, 05:56 PM

im jealous...hope i can get that way naturally in a couple of years
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**chest6** · 07-20-2006, 10:02 PM

Try to prepare a meal before you leave. Eat it as soon as you get home. You really aren't consuming enough food for bulking. You really need more solid food ON cycle or OFF..doesnt matter. Too many shakes isn't the most efficient way to do things. Aim to eat every 2 hours rather than every 3 as you have listed. Try to stay away from bread, there are much better choices like sweet potatoes and oats. Bottom line..thats not nearly enough calories. You will be very disappointed in your cycle without sufficient food intake.

**ROUDA** · 07-20-2006, 10:10 PM

how many mgs of test e you taken

**smallchecks** · 07-21-2006, 03:47 AM

Thanks Chest6, i think i am gonna start boiling a bag of potatoes everyday and carrying them with me to the gym.. From a caloric standpoint, is carbs the best place to get them??

Also Rouda, I am taking 500mg a week.

**chest6** · 07-21-2006, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by smallchecks

Thanks Chest6, i think i am gonna start boiling a bag of potatoes everyday and carrying them with me to the gym.. From a caloric standpoint, is carbs the best place to get them??

Also Rouda, I am taking 500mg a week.

1oz cooked sweet potato is roughly 6 grams of carbs. I would say theyre one of the best carb sources around. I haven't really used brown rice since I read some not so positive info about it..plus I never liked it anyway. I go with sweet potatoes and oats only now..and its been working fine. I would say it is the easiest place to get them..a 14 oz sweet potato provides 82-85g carbs. That would take about 2 1/2 cups of brown rice or 1 1/2 cups of oats. A 14 oz sweet potato isn't even all that big in size either..

**GREENMACHINE** · 07-21-2006, 07:23 AM

Originally Posted by biglouie250

eat eat eat eat!!!! your really lean, put some mass on!

my thoughs exactly

**smallchecks** · 07-21-2006, 03:58 PM

Yeah Chest... i love me some oats.. i eat those everyday.. i actually like potatoes much more than rice anyway so it will be a good switch... should i eat them before and after workout?? or is one preferred?? Also, i prepared food for right after the gym and took with me today and was already prepared when i got home.. great idea!

**Andorious** · 07-22-2006, 04:34 PM

u need to post pictures tht give a better overall impression of wht ur all about. yes, u are lean and ur abs look good, but u probly already knew they were good. so post pics including leg shots, lat spread, double-bi, most muscular, thn u can get some honest critiques. dont just showcase wht u probly already know is pretty decent (ie. abs).

**smallchecks** · 07-22-2006, 06:51 PM

on the way Andorious... Stand by!

**smallchecks** · 07-22-2006, 06:55 PM

ps.. somebody want to help a brotha out on how to edit post and add more pics?

Help much appreciated..

**smallchecks** · 07-22-2006, 07:13 PM

Here is the back, lat and a bicep shot... this pic taking sh*t is harder than i thought

**helium3** · 07-23-2006, 03:11 AM

you are gonna look great with a little more size,i like the bf,id love to get down to that %.

**smallchecks** · 07-23-2006, 03:40 AM

Thanks for the encouragement helium!... hopefully i can continue to add the size and keep the bf that low!

**valcon** · 07-23-2006, 08:32 AM

looking lean bro

**Andorious** · 07-24-2006, 01:48 PM

pics are small, but i can still definitely tell u look good man. i agree w/ helium tht w/ more size u'd look amazing. in terms of improvement i'd hit the chest hard, but w/ tht low bf%, its hard to get tht full look tht we all aspire to.

I'd throw a lil bit of carbs in to your 9pm meal, like a yam for example, and like chest suggested get used to eating more often.
good work so far, and g/l !

**smallchecks** · 07-24-2006, 02:28 PM

Thanks for the feedback Andorious! Any recommendations for the bottom part of my chest.. i seem to have the hardest time growning that area.. and you are right.. my chest just has that very flat look.. I lift that sh*t heavy as hell, never gets any deeper! Also, from a carb standpoint.. i have been eating my face off this week and lovin it.. more energy and fullness already.. Thanks for the continued feedback and keep it coming.. I've got lots to learn!

**rake922** · 07-24-2006, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by smallchecks

Thanks for the feedback Andorious! Any recommendations for the bottom part of my chest.. i seem to have the hardest time growning that area.. and you are right.. my chest just has that very flat look..

go with weighted dips