bf% estimate

[stevexcitement]

This is me 4 days after injection of Testosterone enanthate . Do I have a good body to start with??

[stevexcitement]

I dont think I have a piece of fat on me is there such thing as 0% bf I am so skinny hehe

[hardgainer12]

I dont think I have a piece of fat on me is there such thing as 0% bf I am so skinny hehe

u do or u would die....


anyways i think u look pretty good. maybe u coulda waited longer for test but so could everybody else

[1buffsob]

I dont think I have a piece of fat on me is there such thing as 0% bf I am so skinny hehe

No. From what I can tell in the pics, you're running around 9%bf, give or take a percent.

This is me 4 days after injection of Testosterone enanthate. Do I have a good body to start with??

To start working out and dieting, yes. To start taking steroids , not even close.

1buffsob

[SMAN12b]

No. From what I can tell in the pics, you're running around 9%bf, give or take a percent.



To start working out and dieting, yes. To start taking steroids , not even close.

1buffsob

SORRY, i would disagree. without seeing his legs, he looks a little higher BF than 9% I woudl guess closer to 12-15 range but JMHO

[1buffsob]

SORRY, i would disagree. without seeing his legs, he looks a little higher BF than 9% I woudl guess closer to 12-15 range but JMHO

You think? I don't know, he hardly has any muscle, it's hard to tell what's fat and what's skin. I tried uploading the second pic, but I didn't have the patience for 3600kb with a modem connection. So I'll take your word for it.

Either way, he hit the sauce way too early.

1buffsob

[SMAN12b]

You think? I don't know, he hardly has any muscle, it's hard to tell what's fat and what's skin. I tried uploading the second pic, but I didn't have the patience for 3600kb with a modem connection. So I'll take your word for it.

Either way, he hit the sauce way too early.

1buffsob

I just see NO definiton enough to say he is under 10% no veins, no muscle, so that is why I think 12


But definetly right, NO WAY should he be using AAS yet

[timtim]

how long have you been training? whats your weight? height? etc...

there is no reason that you should even be thinking about aas.

[Hellmaskbanned]

Bro if your 6'5'' 193lbs You shouldn't even say steroid let alone take them.

WORKOUT & EAT.

[SMAN12b]

Bro if your 6'5'' 193lbs You shouldn't even say steroid let alone take them.

WORKOUT & EAT.

LOLOL And dont' forget 3%

Sorry to burst your bubble steve, but if you want to see what a TRUE 3% looks like, click this link and start crying....

Natural

at your height/weight, you should be about 220 before you even look at a steroid

EAT EAT EAT get your butt in the diet forum and learn how to bulk...steroids wil not do you any good if you don't know how to eat !!!!

[stevexcitement]

yes i am 21 6'5" 193lbs. been working out for 5 years training hard for the past year almost. I don't understand I eat as much as I can 3 protien shakes a day, oatmeal , peanut butter sandwhiches. work out every other day. Im just not raly gaining anything thats why I looked in to aas. All I hear is diet eat eat eat, and I am doing that with no dramatic results. What the hell is wrong here.

[SMAN12b]

yes i am 21 6'5" 193lbs. been working out for 5 years training hard for the past year almost. I don't understand I eat as much as I can 3 protien shakes a day, oatmeal , peanut butter sandwhiches. work out every other day. Im just not raly gaining anything thats why I looked in to aas. All I hear is diet eat eat eat, and I am doing that with no dramatic results. What the hell is wrong here.

What the hell is wrong here is that you are NOT eating properly to grow....it isn't just a matter of drinking protein, and eating peanut butter....If you are not doing it RIGHT, then you will NOT grow...NO MAGIC HERE !!!

If it aint working you aints doing it right, maybe that is why everyone is telling you to EAT and diet.... You want dramatic results, then you have to do DRAMATIC WORK !!! all the aas in the world will not MAKE you grow, YOU have to do that

For example this is a typical day for me

meal 1 2 whole eggs
12 egg whites
4 oz. breakfast steak
8 oz oatmeal
1/2 grapefruit

meal 2 16 oz lean steak
16 oz brown rice

mea 3 16 oz chicken breast
12 oz plain sweet potato

meal 4 two cans tuna fish
salsa
8 oz brown rice

meal 5 meal replacement shake
20g protein pudding

meal 6 8 oz chicken breast
8 oz brown rice


Now unless your eating looks something like that, that is why you are NOT growing!!!!! And that is my CUTTING diet

[timtim]

head over to the diet forum, post up your daily meal plan - be as meticulous as possible - and people will guide you in the right direction. right now, if you are eating everything you say and not gaining the aas will be a waste. perfect diet first then add the aas.

[stevexcitement]

do you fully recover after a single compound cycle like test e, and gain naturaly again as you would before steroids ?

[stevexcitement]

holy shit that is a lot of food to eat I would explode.

[stevexcitement]

Im going to cook steak tonight.

[SMAN12b]

do you fully recover after a single compound cycle like test e, and gain naturaly again as you would before steroids?

Do you have the proper PCT compounds to help you recover??

If you have only taken one shot so far, just quit now and save it, click on the banner in the upper right hand corner and order the nolva/clomid combo and get it quick and start using it 14 days after your last shot of Test E

Take some time to gain naturally and get your food inline... seriously, AAS does NOT do the work by itself if it does not have the calories to synthesis the protein, it will be a total waste

and you got to train heavy to grow

[SMAN12b]

Im going to cook steak tonight.

Do you understand, I eat lean steak EVERYDAY
at least 12 oz if not more!!! and that is just ONE meal

I am 5' 10-11" and 220# trained natural until i was 35

[SMAN12b]

holy shit that is a lot of food to eat I would explode.

NO, you would GROW !!!! DUH that is the point

Eat a meal like that every 2.5 -3 hours minimum of 6 meals a day more meals are better

When I bulk, I eat all that and still get up in the middle of the night to drink another meal shake!! It is a lifestyle not a hobby, especially when you add AAS to the mix !!!

[stevexcitement]

ok well the only thing i have is 20 tabs of 25mg proviron I ordered nolva a while ago and hasnt come yet Im thinking it got siezed I dont know what the hell is going on. I geus I will save the restt after I gane 20 pounds any thoughts damnit this sucks.

[stevexcitement]

I have done 3 1/2 weeks of naposim allready too.

[SMAN12b]

If you click on the upper right banner, or the words in blue like nolva or clomid, it will take you to the sponsor sight and he can ship you the clomid nolva combo in like 3 days, very fast.

All my thoughts are above, stop now, learn to eat, stick around here and learn from the best, then in a year or two, you will be ready for a REAL growth cycle

[DSM4Life]

This is me 4 days after injection of Testosterone enanthate. Do I have a good body to start with??

Do you really have to even answer the question since he already started the cycle !

He is looking for approval.

[stevexcitement]

ok I have started the cycle ony one injection. I mean I would stop right now and thinking about saving my gear for another year or two. but would it hurt to go through with the cycle now you guys have me worried. I wont finish the cycle if it will hurt my chances of being a body builder.

[DSM4Life]

Stats seem ok but you might want to look into the diet section. Its up to you if you want to start early or not. Some start way too early and build muscle they could have built naturally and could have saved a lot of money at the same time. Good luck

[Johny-too-small]

Bro, you are being flamed for your own good. I know you are very excited, however, you have no idea what a real pct is and that is very scary. You should have your pct on hand and dictated before you start any aas. Your pct should be your first priority, its more important than the cycle itself.

We are all here to help you. You need to do some major research. That is the bottom line. Everyone here is telling you to do what you're not. Read carefully, and in two or three months you can be on the right track.

Good luck, stay humble, and learn....but most of all: EAT!

[DSM4Life]

I didn't even notice he didn't have a PCT down either because i didn't read the entire thread. These threads tend to all me the same if you know what i mean.

Let me restate what i said before, you are NOT ready for a cycle.

[stevexcitement]

Ok I hate being a f-ing ectomorph I have been taking wieght lifting serious for a while now and I lost friends doing it because I wouldnt hang out with anyone because going to the gym is more important to me. I will try to eat more but there is only so much I can eat untill I get full which doesnt take much! I am going to cook a lot of steak tonight and stock up with lots of steak/chicken. I allready eat like 8 eggs everymorning and oatmeal. It is just realy hard for me to gain weight because I can lose it all in a day if I dont eat. I do have proviron 25mg 20 tabs so thats 20 days. will order some nolva hopefully tonight. I want to go through with the cycle but just wondering if I will gain anything and be able to gain more after the cycle is over. I dont care if i get flamed I am just here to learn why im not gaining anything well I have been getting a lot more mscular these ppast couple of months! I can finally see my abs. I am starting to get why im not growing maybe I should ad in some junk food with my diet like mc donalds burgers lol lots of caleries and protien.

[Johny-too-small]

Ok I hate being a f-ing ectomorph I have been taking wieght lifting serious for a while now and I lost friends doing it because I wouldnt hang out with anyone because going to the gym is more important to me. I will try to eat more but there is only so much I can eat untill I get full which doesnt take much! I am going to cook a lot of steak tonight and stock up with lots of steak/chicken. I allready eat like 8 eggs everymorning and oatmeal. It is just realy hard for me to gain weight because I can lose it all in a day if I dont eat. I do have proviron 25mg 20 tabs so thats 20 days. will order some nolva hopefully tonight. I want to go through with the cycle but just wondering if I will gain anything and be able to gain more after the cycle is over. I dont care if i get flamed I am just here to learn why im not gaining anything well I have been getting a lot more mscular these ppast couple of months! I can finally see my abs. I am starting to get why im not growing maybe I should ad in some junk food with my diet like mc donalds burgers lol lots of caleries and protien.

Dude, your lost. WTF! WRONG!

Im out.

[chest6]

ppl start aas before learning how to eat? Baffles me.

[stevexcitement]

ok that was suppost to be a joke wtf I don't even eat fast food.

[C_Bino]

You say you dont wanna ruin your chances of being a bodybuilder. From that, I take it you want to do bodybuilding as a profession...You REALLY desperately need to get serious about diet than. That is THEE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT aspect of bodybuilding imo. You cant be eating peanut butter sandwiches like you say you do. I mean do you think thats what pro bodybuilders eat?

Im not even CLOSE to pro size and I am eating 8 meals a day (even 10 lately because I am eating every 1.5 hours...insane hunger). Not a single meal EVER would have a peanut butter sandwich in it. It is all lean protein usually 8-10oz serving and about the same amount of carbs, with some EFA's later in the day.

This sport takes 24 hours a day my friend and it means dedicating your life to it. Not just eating a bit more than the average person and goin to the gym...Its a lifestyle not a pass time.

[C_Bino]

Oh and btw I am completely with SMAN on the bodyfat. I would say around 12%...no muscle seperation or striation at all that you would have at 0%...which pretty much isnt possible anyways.

[SMAN12b]

Sounds like you are gonna do this cycle whether or not all the advice given to you by ALL the many YEARS of experienced members here tell you that it is a TOTAL waste.
I can almost guarentee that 99.9% of whatever gains you may make from this Poorly planned, poorly executed cycle of yours will be lost, and you will blame everything except the true reason which is you have NO clue yet, nor do you have the dedication it takes to use AAS

Have fun, be careful, don't expect much, come back when you really want to learn how to do things right!!

[stevexcitement]

Ok I do want to do things right. I am having a hard time understanding the diet aspect of it all. My mom is a personal trainer and she says peanutbutter is good... I don't know I realy am trying and now I feel like shit and discouraged to even try. I just ate 3 steaks. I work out eod hard as I can I curl 50-60 pound dumbells I have 15 1/2" biceps. I am seeing results. I just don't understand how you are getting this thick. Also how do you force yourself to eat that much. I would puke . I had no prob eating like 3, 9 ounce fillets just now though. Maybe I should invest in a personal trainer other than my mom she knows nothing about steroids . Maybe someone can help me with a diet, I dont know. I am serious about this though I don't drink achohol or smoke so i know I have potential I just need to eat right but it is confusing to me. Also with a fast metabolism things are even harder.

[DSM4Life]

Ok I do want to do things right. I am having a hard time understanding the diet aspect of it all. My mom is a personal trainer and she says peanutbutter is good... I don't know I realy am trying and now I feel like shit and discouraged to even try. I just ate 3 steaks. I work out eod hard as I can I curl 50-60 pound dumbells I have 15 1/2" biceps. I am seeing results. I just don't understand how you are getting this thick. Also how do you force yourself to eat that much. I would puke . I had no prob eating like 3, 9 ounce fillets just now though. Maybe I should invest in a personal trainer other than my mom she knows nothing about steroids. Maybe someone can help me with a diet, I dont know. I am serious about this though I don't drink achohol or smoke so i know I have potential I just need to eat right but it is confusing to me. Also with a fast metabolism things are even harder.

Eating 3 steaks will do nothing for you. Go to the Diet section and read for about a month then come back.

[stevexcitement]

ah this sucks im going to the gym peace.

[SMAN12b]

What is so hard about going to the diet forum and reading?????

If you clicked the link I gave you, that was ME at 33 all natural, NO STEROIDS and eating 6 meals a day !!!!

you have to eat the right amounts of the right foods at the right times....has nothing to do with your fast metabolism....that is the goal of all Bodybuilders, in increase our metabolism to burn more fat...so don't use that as an excuse for your lack of discipline to make the adjustments like WE ALL have done to reach our goals...

Your body will adjust to the 6-8 meals, you will actually get hungry every 2-3 hours once you get to doing it right!!!
I think you have prooved to yoruself that you are not ready to commit to AAS and if you can't do it right, it really is just a waste.
Dedicate yourself to LEARNING and doing it right

[Hellmaskbanned]

You gotta eat around 6 meals a day. Go to the diet forum and study up and read other ppls diet and make your own diet plan. Once you put some effort/time making your own post it in the diet forum for critique.
YOUR NOT EATING ENOUGH, thats why your not gaining muscle. You don't have to eat a ton starting out. If you keep eating & eating your body/stomach will get use to those amounts. Then your muscles will be supplied with whats needed to grow.

Also I'm guessing your workout routine is off. You need to be doing compound lifts like bench press, dead lifts, squats, barbell curls , etc.....With a bar and heavy weight. Dumbell concentration curls and other exercises like that wont benefit you at all. PLZ don't cycle until you are atleast 215lbs for you own health.

[stevexcitement]

Well I know my diet is off well not off I just don't eat enouph for sure. But I am going to try the 6 meal a day. My workout routine is not off. I work out everything dumbells, bench. leg press. barbell curls. lots of deadlifts and rows. lots of back excersises and so on. just started to work my calves a month ago though.