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    Lookin for some opinions

    What's up everybody, I'm thinking about doing a cycle but not really sure if I want to right now. I am going to work on dieting a little better first and see how far that takes me, I not really trying to get ripped just alittle better lookin. Here are some pics, sorry about the quality my camera sucks. Right now I am 5'10 240 workout 4-5days a week and do atleast 30min of cardio a day. Just lookin for some opinions on what I should do. Thanks


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    you look real solid bro. i would cut some fat off b4 i did anything. and what is that tat of on your inner right bi?

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    Thanks man, It's the emblem from a Louisville Slugger baseball bat with a few changes.

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    I'd get ready for summer and start to drop some bodyfat....you'll actually look larger as well.

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    Bro, with your weight and build, you'd look like a monster once you get ripped... You look damn solid....

    cheers

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    I agree, dont cycle till you get leaner, You look pretty solid and even with your bf% its obvious you'll have some awesome shoulder/chest development.

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    Looks like you have the same problem I do. The fat is a pain to lose but diet and cardio will help. Just keep at it bro.

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    Thanks guys, maybe I should be asking this in a different forum, but what should I be eating to lean up. Right now I pretty much eat what ever I want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawse
    Thanks guys, maybe I should be asking this in a different forum, but what should I be eating to lean up. Right now I pretty much eat what ever I want.
    you look pretty solid & if you never used any PH's in the past good job bro....... Anyway, I agree with everybody esle just loose some fat & you'll be fine... as far as eating what works for me is
    not eating pass 7pm don't comsume to many carbs & take a protein shake with not so much carbs....
    Eat fish, steak, veggies, salads, my favorite for quick & easy when on the run Tuna etc...

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    By the way I have never done any kind of steriods yet, I just want to make sure that if I do decide to my body will be were it needs to be to get the most out of them. Thanks again

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    I would say wait and drop your BF% and then run a Test/ Winny cycle. You will be massive!

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    Alright guys, I spoke with a friend of mine that runs her own personal training business and we set out a diet plan. Here it is tell me what you think,

    Meal 1- Protein shake 3 scoops
    1cup quick oats
    6 strawberrys
    skim milk
    12 almonds

    Meal 2- 8oz tuna, chicken, or meat
    12 almonds
    green apple

    meal 3- 8oz tuna, chicken, or meat
    2 cups green salad
    1 sweet potato
    1 cup broccoli
    1 orange
    6 almonds

    meal 4-Protein shake 3 scoops
    1cup quick oats
    6 strawberrys
    6 almonds

    meal 5-8oz protein
    3 cups veggies
    6 almonds

    meal 6- optional
    shake or 6 egg white omelete
    I throw egg whites in all of my tuna and chicken salads, I am drinking water, fresca and crystal light. Thanks again guys.

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    Wow ur huge! Nice job Post some pic's of ur quad's n calve's.....

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    I would cut back on the carbs some if your really looking to lean up.

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    I would, but my camera sucks as you can tell in the first pictures, When I get a new one this week I will post some.

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    There isn't very many carbs in that diet.

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    i BET YOUR WELL OVER 200+

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    Alright thanks for the opinion bro.

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    how many cals you eating a day?
    lookin thick bro...nice natural base..if you cut down then decided to hop on the sauce, you would be a monster, no doubt.

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    Thats pretty much what I want to do as far as getting my body right before the juice.

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    a body responds much better w/lower bf to aas, get it down to12% or lower and juice up u will be a monster!

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    Hey Grudge Keeper you are right my carbs are at about 250 a day. I don't think that is really bad considering that before I was taking in almost 2000 a day. I can't beleive that I'm not 300lbs and just fat nasty. Thanks for the comments everybody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawse
    Hey Grudge Keeper you are right my carbs are at about 250 a day. I don't think that is really bad considering that before I was taking in almost 2000 a day. I can't beleive that I'm not 300lbs and just fat nasty. Thanks for the comments everybody.
    WOW 2000 is a lot if that was the case 250 isnt anything I had only said it was a bit much cause when I cut my low carb days are about 100. best of luck with your goals.

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    Yea we sat down and figured it up. At an average meal for me before, I was taking in about 400-600 carbs a meal. I had really bad eating habits.

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    ^^ totally off subject, but wouldnt you agree that he shouldnt cut the oatmeal and sweet potatoe but cut out some of the fruit, as this ***osits in the liver..

    if anything keep his current diet as a "High Carb day" and then cycle onto something like you do, grudge, at like 100 for 2-3 days.

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    yeah i would agree with that if leaning up is a primary goal

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    although these bums say u should get leaner b4 cycling at ur weight right now if u get ur diet in check i think cycling something that isnt a quick weight gainer like dbol but instead like test e w/ a good diet and discipline to do cardio ED a cycle is just what u need to start cutting while keeping ur muscle b/c u got a solid base

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    Yea, I was thinking about starting one now, because I really don't want to lose my size. I also don't want to have any problems, because of to much fat on me still. I'm just not sure, I want to do it right. Thanks for all the opinions guys I really do value them. I'm thinking about a test/winny cycle, maybe 9wks
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    Yea man you look solid....seems you have a good physique to be unleashed

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteyK
    although these bums say u should get leaner b4 cycling at ur weight right now if u get ur diet in check i think cycling something that isnt a quick weight gainer like dbol but instead like test e w/ a good diet and discipline to do cardio ED a cycle is just what u need to start cutting while keeping ur muscle b/c u got a solid base
    maybee these "bums" are giving advice they feel is best.i did a test only cycle at about 18%bf and i was so estrogenic i got gyno and it beat the hellout of me i felt like shit the whole time.if i could do it again id wait till i got my bf down.im currently at 10%-11% bf and will start my next cycle when i hit 9% bf.oh and my diet was spot on as well, i lost bf through vthe entire cycle but i still felt like hell

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    keep doing what you are doing, just step the cardio to 45 or an hour. but looking great man

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    It's been two weeks on my diet, i've lost 11pounds. The day after I started the diet I sprained my ankle pretty bad and have not been able to do cardio. I am going to stick with the diet for a little longer until my money gets right for my cycle.

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    Whats up guys? I have been fairly good about my diet and I am now down to 220. I am thing about starting a cycle in about a month, I should be down around 215 when I start, do you think that the test/winny cycle is good for me. I plan on a 8wk cycle with the first 6wks being test twice a week and starting the winny (also twice a week) on the 7th week and finishing out with just the winny for 8weeks. Any suggestions, I'll try to get some pics up sometime later. Thanks guys

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    My opinion is this, in the above relatively junky photos, LOL, you look bigger than a lot of the people I see on here already cycling. Now it's about 2 months later though right? And you dropped 20 or so pounds? Good. Hopefully you didn't drop any muscle because you had a super base, super. IMO opinion, it's a hell of a lot harder to gain the muscle than it is to drop the fat, that's why I said I hope you didn't lose any muscle. Good luck. You definately have a lot of potential.

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    Thanks, I am still just as strong as I was before I started dieting, so no I don't feel that I have lost any muscle. I have actually had people tell me I am getting bigger. My camera is messed up, it won't focus. I will get some pics up shortly. How about the cycle? sound good?

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    Looks good just lean down about 20lb and you will look very good.

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    Bro post some new pics after the weight loss you have already had.

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    if ur gonna do an 8 wk ccycle id hit the winny start of wk 3 and run it to the end of wk 8 for a total of 6 wks.u deff need to frontload the test and winny needs to be injected every day, some say u can get away with eod but most agree ed is best, what doses/mg of each are u looking at running? and yea lets see some pics

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawse
    Yea we sat down and figured it up. At an average meal for me before, I was taking in about 400-600 carbs a meal. I had really bad eating habits.
    Are you talking 400-600 calories from carbs per meal or 400-600g of carbs per meal?

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    carbs per a meal

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