Tough situation

[Garbanzo Dude]

Ok.....here are some pic's of my older cousin....

I told him I think he has gyno....what do you all think

he wants to get on a cycle.... I told him not goood idea at this point

Backround

'36 years old 6'1 185
'married
'just lost his job

I TOLD HIM TO GO SEE MY DOC FIRST AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS GEAR...BUT HE IS CRAZY....HE THINKS IT'S JUST FAT....AND WANT TO START ASAP
He has done a good job losing about 25 lbs in the last 4 months....( diet and cardio) I still think he needs to go all natty for a few more months.

[FREAK]

may be just high bf

[MuscleScience]

Is that Bob from fight club????

[FREAK]

its hard to tell with all that furrrrr

[Garbanzo Dude]

lol....I was chasing with my clippers before the shot

[GT2]

It looks like a combination of adipose tissue (fat) and gyno

[FROST]

props to him for losing weight, but he is no where near the point of touching gear..... As much as he is going to hurt his body with the compounds of his choice is it really worth it in the end? will he stick with it after he loses everything when he comes off? because its obvious he does not have the base, knowlage, or mind muscle connection to retain his gains for any lengthy period of time.

it is very RARE to hear me be so blunt but steroids are not like pot, its not ok for everyone to take a hit. I apoligize if i'm coming off rude, but the idea is a bad one. A perfect diet and a nailed training routine would work better than steroids at this point in your freinds life. Lets not even touch the fact that getting depressed is unavoidable at this point considering he lost his job etc.

i'd be more than happy to help with diet and a routine, just let me know. i hope i was clear enough to get my point across :-)

[Garbanzo Dude]

Thanks fFROST I'm gonna make him sit down and read this later tonight......what about the gyno...he thinks its fat.....I felt him and no lumops.....but there seems to be a lot tissue there.

[smokethedays]

It looks like a combination of adipose tissue (fat) and gyno

Ditto, natural.

[FullMoonHowlingWolf]

Looks more like fat, but hard to tell b/c of his chest hair. I'm inclined to agree with FROST!

[CanthookitLs6]

The fatty tissue seems too symmetrical to be gyno, but I could be wrong. I think he is just suffering from a case of 'man boobs', just a genetic predisposition of putting on fat in that area.

Roids at this point is ludicrous, tell him to diet / excersise for at least a couple years consistently before even considering AAS if he wants long-lasting results, (as Frost explained above).

[FireGuy]

If it wasnt for all that hair I would guess he was ready to lactate. That is a wierd shaped set of pecs.

[redz]

I think thats gotta be gyno with some extra fat.

[Garbanzo Dude]

Thanks for all input guys.....he hasn't come over yet by I will show him this thread when he does......my girl thinks he should start on HGH cycle in a few months.....for the skin thighting effects and since his already in his mid 30's......I just know this SOB.....is gonna try to get gear on his own......I just want to lead him in the right direction.....and I agree with all you he should wait.....I think losing that weight recently has gotten to him.....but I keep telling him wait till the skin can tighten a bit more on its own and you can build some muscle.....anyhow I still think he needs lipo or something to the chest area cause there just seems to be a lot tissue there....

[outaurleague]

Is that Bob from fight club????

[thecivilizedanimal]

6'1" 185lb and half you guys are saying thats natural and not gyno ?


have you seen overweight people before ? have you yourself been overweight ?



bitch tits like that ARE NOT NORMAL.


he's obviously predetermined to carry excess fat on his chest, but roids are going to aggravate that


your buddy needs to lose a good amount of body fat first.

[inky-e]

Nice tits there...jk..nice hairy tits!!hahaha

[DSM4Life]

[B.E.N.]

Is that Bob from fight club????

lol...post em in the cleavage thread.

[rhino1]

hahahahahah

[Timm1704]

im one who stores fat at the lower chest area, nowhere near that extent, but even so, it isnt necessarily gyno. Still, looks downright nasty and even if it is just fat, he may really struggle to get rid of that from that area

[redz]

im one who stores fat at the lower chest area, nowhere near that extent, but even so, it isnt necessarily gyno. Still, looks downright nasty and even if it is just fat, he may really struggle to get rid of that from that area

I really doubt its not gyno that is exactly what gyno looks like in my head those are tits.

[lovbyts]

Tell him to shave his chest so you can play with his boobs. LOL, No man those are boobs on the move. Get him fixed up but if he wont believe you just back away and buy him a new bra for Christmas.

[NewJuice]

Bro thats not gyno... Obviously you guy never had real gyno before. If he doesnt feel hard tissue behind the nipple.. He has a better natural chest the 75% of the guys I see in these pictures on this board. Im guessing the real reason you want to derail him from doing a cycle is cause he will more then likely look alot better then you.

[Timm1704]

Bro thats not gyno... Obviously you guy never had real gyno before. If he doesnt feel hard tissue behind the nipple.. He has a better natural chest the 75% of the guys I see in these pictures on this board. Im guessing the real reason you want to derail him from doing a cycle is cause he will more then likely look alot better then you.

are you serious? I dont know if its gyno or not (the fact that there are no hard lumps suggests it may just be fat), but that is not a well developed or good looking chest

[WARMachine]

its hard to tell with all that furrrrr

Seriously though, it looks like gyno...

[lovbyts]

No doesnt look like gyno but it looks like a lot of estrogen build up, he is developing Boobs, not muscle.

[NewJuice]

you never even seen real gyno. It looks like someone has a golfball right behind their nipple. And its never even from side to side.. This dude just has a fatty nipples. Has to do with BF% not estrogen. This guy losses more BF he will have a great chest under there.

[NewJuice]

He is right it is just fat and he should start right away

[canadian meat]

Aside from the odd looking lower chest,there is no development at all of the upper chest which makes the lower stand out even that much more.lose BF and work on uper chest might help the look some IMO

[lovbyts]

you never even seen real gyno. It looks like someone has a golfball right behind their nipple. And its never even from side to side.. This dude just has a fatty nipples. Has to do with BF% not estrogen. This guy losses more BF he will have a great chest under there.

WTF? I have never seen gyno? OK obviulsly you are a doctor because you are telling this guy he is fine, dont worry, he doenst need to go see a profesional and you are a mystic since you know what I have seen and havent. LOL

Hmmm #1 you are wrong, there is more types of Gyno than just a lump.
http://www.plasticsurgery4u.com/proc...ybuilding.html
Read and learn FOOL
#2 I have seen gyno and not only on Google (you should try it) I have a friend who had to go under the knife a few years ago due to gyno.

So, for your 2 points

My opinion is still he needs to go see the doctor. My statements above where for his cousin to give him some crap if needed to get him to see a doctor.

You really think he has well formed chest under the fat????? whatever. I lost 40 lbs less than a year ago due to diet; how come I didn't automatically look like a body builder. LOL

Sorry if I hit a sensitive spot for you (you'd better check for gyno) or maybe it is really your girlfriends picture but either way take a chill and dont be so quick to assume or try to flame someone. Remember, if you play with fire you will get burned.

[NewJuice]

Lovbyts You have lost your mind. You told the guy he needs a bra and his boobs are on the move. and your trying to make me out to be the asshole. You just feel dump cause you posted your weak little physique in the next thread. your a low class newbie at best. I have first have knowledge of gyno and you always think you know what it is, until you really have it... ask around.

[NewJuice]

Check out my nipples... Thats gyno... and I earned it Son

[lovbyts]

Lovbyts You have lost your mind. You told the guy he needs a bra and his boobs are on the move. and your trying to make me out to be the asshole. You just feel dump cause you posted your weak little physique in the next thread. your a low class newbie at best. I have first have knowledge of gyno and you always think you know what it is, until you really have it... ask around.

Obviously your to much of a puss to admit you are WRONG or just to much juice. Read the post, it says "Get him fixed up but if he wont believe you" in other words give him some shit about it.
Since you earned your gyno you are now the boards resident expert, no more like moron, thanks for proving it.
Newbie? LOL Ive been reading steroid board LONG before you I'm sure just not participating but either way it does not make either one of us an expert.

You sure do seem to be able to tell a lot about this guy "This guy losses more BF he will have a great chest under there. " just by looking at his chest; Maybe on a more personal level than we all know??? Either way you sure seem to be taking it VERY personal, maybe you should let the OP handle it since it his friend?

Obviously you are going to read my post as you want and will not listen to any reason so in the future please just ignore any post by me and we can avoid these little flame wars and temper tantrums of yours.

BTW, I know how to photo shop also. hahahaha

[NewJuice]

LOV.,.. you could never photo shop my picture to look like your little vagina ass...lol Im sorry if I hurt your feelings.. My issue is it was hard for this guy to put this picture up and this is what you posted "Tell him to shave his chest so you can play with his boobs. LOL, No man those are boobs on the move. Get him fixed up but if he wont believe you just back away and buy him a new bra for Christmas." Its not right... especially since you dont know shit. Also making a statement like " Ive been reading steroid board LONG before you I'm sure" I been on this board for a month short of 6years so suck it..

[lovbyts]

hahahaha god you are so much fun...... Dude, I'm almost 20 years older than you, I have been reading them for a LONG time but never joined this one until I decided to cycle. I have been a member of another one for many years and have been around people doing it while you where in diapers. Ohh that was maybe only last week. LOL

Why are you so worked up over this? Is it really a picture of your girlfriend or something?

They guy was refusing to go see a doctor, he needs a push, motivation insults whatever so he will go even if YOU dont think so because it does not look like your bitch tits, I mean gyno. Get off your soap box and back to reality. Insults will hurt a lot less than him not getting checked out if he does have a problem.

[NewJuice]

What ever makes you feel better..

[NewJuice]

so Lovbt .... you said "I'm almost 20 years older than you, I have been reading them for a LONG time but never joined this one until I decided to cycle. I have been a member of another one for many years and have been around " well hom come it looks like you spent none of those years in the gym

[lovbyts]

What ever makes you feel better..

Sorry must have responded to fast for you. I will give you some time to think of a comeback. Obviously you are running out of things to say. You can try Google, that might help you find something to say??? Type in childish insults... that would be up your alley.

Thanks, it's a slow night and I needed some entertainment.

[lovbyts]

so Lovbt .... you said "I'm almost 20 years older than you, I have been reading them for a LONG time but never joined this one until I decided to cycle. I have been a member of another one for many years and have been around " well hom come it looks like you spent none of those years in the gym

If you really want to know try reading some of my history, most of it is on here but for a quick synopses lets see, I did spend several years working out 6 days a week until being a good Samaritan I got Hepatitis B in 1991 donating blood and went from 170 lbs to 120 in about a week and bottomed out around 115. That sort of screwed me up for a few years. Then herniated L3 & L4 and about a year ago herniated L5.
I decided I was tired of being tired all the time, no energy, feeling like crap so I took matters into my own hands and started HGH about 9 months ago and got back into the gym shorty after since I finally started getting some energy back. I also started some HRT and now doing a little better.
Let see I had a few other little distractions along the way, First wife died in 1996 when my daughter was 2. 2nd wife died 1 1/2 years ago.

Anything else you would like to know? There is a lot more excuses but they are in the past and I said I would keep it short.