Ready for first cycle?

**nonotone** · 01-10-2009, 10:46 PM

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**beatango2008** · 01-11-2009, 12:42 AM

Your pictures are not working, but by reading your stats, and training background I would suggest not running a cycle at this point. Your young and still have alot of natural test in you, just by improving the diet you will see great changes.
and if you want to lose some fat, clean up your diet and hit the cardio for 1 hour a day.
Good luck

**j4ever41** · 01-11-2009, 01:04 AM

Originally Posted by beatango2008

Your pictures are not working, but by reading your stats, and training background I would suggest not running a cycle at this point. Your young and still have alot of natural test in you, just by improving the diet you will see great changes.
and if you want to lose some fat, clean up your diet and hit the cardio for 1 hour a day.
Good luck

I have to bump beatango, even though you are probably licking your chops for a cycle if you don't have your routine in check and more important your diet it will be a waste of time,i would say wait awhile even a couple of years,grow and use up more of your genetic potential.

**nonotone** · 01-11-2009, 01:15 AM

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**nonotone** · 01-11-2009, 01:15 AM

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**nonotone** · 01-11-2009, 01:20 AM

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**Big** · 01-11-2009, 01:34 AM

no offense, but no, you are no where near ready for a cycle in my opinion.

**nonotone** · 01-11-2009, 01:51 AM

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**welshmaster** · 01-11-2009, 02:01 PM

How tall are you? I can't see 90kg in all honesty.

**Big** · 01-11-2009, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by konateh

This is also why my testosterone levels are rediculously low.. I have been to an endocrinologist and according to the blood tests i have a testosterone level that is just above what is considered "normal"...

this to me makes no sense^

**seriousmass** · 01-11-2009, 02:19 PM

You must be like 6'3 or taller, if you're JUST below 200 pounds..

***FireGuy*** · 01-11-2009, 02:21 PM

What about being "ridiculously low" and "above normal" at the same time doesnt make sense? JK

Is it just me or is there something borderline disturbing about those pictures?

**beatango2008** · 01-11-2009, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by Big

this to me makes no sense^

yeah, something is'nt adding up here.

**beatango2008** · 01-11-2009, 05:35 PM

Bottom line is, you don't need AAS just eat a heck of alot more food, eat till you feel like your going to puke than eat some more. trust me you'll grow.

***RAGE*** · 01-11-2009, 08:46 PM

^^^^eat and eat and eat somemore and after you put on some more muscle then post your pic's and try again...

**j4ever41** · 01-12-2009, 02:52 AM

yep after seeing your pics, you for sure need to wait on aas and eat a hell of alot of food.

**Kale** · 01-12-2009, 02:58 AM

Originally Posted by welshmaster

How tall are you? I can't see 90kg in all honesty.

Excellent question !!!!

**nonotone** · 01-12-2009, 05:31 AM

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**Big** · 01-12-2009, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by konateh

as i was much heavier before (130 kg at most) my gonad and thyroid hormones are very low whenever my fat% is low, as it is for most people that have lost such a large amount of weight, and they will only get back to normal if i go back to being 130kg again because the body is striving towards that weight..

Now as for my height, im 192 cm tall, and also my legs are packing some weight

My weight at the moment is 85-90 kg (varies a bit), but i am aiming at 90-95 kg with a low fat% (under 10% preferably).

Now as for the AAS usage.. The muscle hypertrophy is only one of the reasons why i want to start taking testosterone enanthate , 125 mg/week is for replacing my own body's own production to get an higher level of testosterone in the serum permanently, i have been diagnosed with both hypogonadism and hypothyrodism when i was at 8% fat, because my body's own production shuts completely down. So the reason why i want to use test e and t3 in small dosages is to replace my own body's production permanently to achieve normal levels while still being able to have a low percentage of fat and being able to build muscle without 80% of the gains (even on a 250kcal extra/day superclean 40/40/20 diet) being fat, and being able to keep the muscle on me always.

Understandable?

Maybe it's just me, but it seems like you are giving us the reasons why you have such rediculously low test levels, yet your bloodtest says you're normal. Obviously you can do as you wish, but I see no reason for you to do what you propose, and I don't think I'm the only one who feels this way. Good luck.

**nonotone** · 01-12-2009, 07:57 AM

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**Axehand** · 01-12-2009, 10:17 PM

Mate.

First of all, you don't need AAS what you need is an understanding on how to diet and how to train by mixing it up and keeping it short and sharp.

I'd have a stab and say your testosterone and thyroid problems are closely related to your eating habits, by looking at the photo's you seem to be underweight / boney.

Fats are very important mate, they give you energy and keep your brain focused and switched on. Having no fat is pretty far fetched and unrealistic, whats wrong with 8-10%?

Eat like a ****ing horse, eat everything and anything, train hard, stay focused and don't expect to be huge in a couple of days, enjoy training keep it consistent and you will be rewarded.

Just a quick question, the average male produces about 70mg of testosterone a week?

**Big** · 01-12-2009, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by Axehand

Just a quick question, the average male produces about 70mg of testosterone a week?

actually the average adult male produces the equivalent of approximately 7mg/day of testosterone .

**chitownhoker** · 01-12-2009, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by konateh

as i was much heavier before (130 kg at most) my gonad and thyroid hormones are very low whenever my fat% is low, as it is for most people that have lost such a large amount of weight, and they will only get back to normal if i go back to being 130kg again because the body is striving towards that weight..

Now as for my height, im 192 cm tall, and also my legs are packing some weight

My weight at the moment is 85-90 kg (varies a bit), but i am aiming at 90-95 kg with a low fat% (under 10% preferably).

Now as for the AAS usage.. The muscle hypertrophy is only one of the reasons why i want to start taking testosterone enanthate , 125 mg/week is for replacing my own body's own production to get an higher level of testosterone in the serum permanently, i have been diagnosed with both hypogonadism and hypothyrodism when i was at 8% fat, because my body's own production shuts completely down. So the reason why i want to use test e and t3 in small dosages is to replace my own body's production permanently to achieve normal levels while still being able to have a low percentage of fat and being able to build muscle without 80% of the gains (even on a 250kcal extra/day superclean 40/40/20 diet) being fat, and being able to keep the muscle on me always.

Understandable?

how can your weight be fluxuating over 10 pounds? that alone shows an inconsistentincy in eating or drinking water, idk man, you sound like you have some issues you need to figure out