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    Thumbs up At 46 years of age, BF % ?

    Just wondering if this is still to much BF to start a First cycle ?
    by the looks im thinking 16%. my legs are solid and really toned,
    its the waist area of my concern.
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    by the looks of it, I think you would be OK

    what cycle are you proposing to do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-MOS View Post
    by the looks of it, I think you would be OK

    what cycle are you proposing to do?
    Im thinking, 150 twice a week test cyp or e for 6 weeks maybe even 5 depends how much i can do with one bottle .
    4 weeks 20 dbol
    nolva if needed

    or
    Oral
    dbol and var for 6 weeks max

    I do wanne cut quite a bit more bf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4fitness View Post
    Im thinking, 150 twice a week test cyp or e for 6 weeks maybe even 5 depends how much i can do with one bottle .
    4 weeks 20 dbol
    nolva if needed

    or
    Oral
    dbol and var for 6 weeks max

    I do wanne cut quite a bit more bf.
    OK well skip the whole dbol var crap

    DO the test cyp, but honestly you need to run it for 10-12 weeks as the Cypionate is a very long ester and will not even fully kick in for 4-6 weeks, so you would be stopping the cycle before it ever even kicked in.

    300/mgs/week is a bit light, but you can try that for a first cycle I would still get more then one bottle though as you always lose a bit in the needle, and in filling.

    I would have an AI on hand for during the cycle in case of water or gyno signs

    and I would use clomid AND nolva for your PCT, PCT would start 18 days after last test C injection

    if you want a shorter cycle , you can go with Test Prop, but then you need to inject ED or EOD

    hope this helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-MOS View Post
    OK well skip the whole dbol var crap

    DO the test cyp, but honestly you need to run it for 10-12 weeks as the Cypionate is a very long ester and will not even fully kick in for 4-6 weeks, so you would be stopping the cycle before it ever even kicked in.

    300/mgs/week is a bit light, but you can try that for a first cycle I would still get more then one bottle though as you always lose a bit in the needle, and in filling.

    I would have an AI on hand for during the cycle in case of water or gyno signs

    and I would use clomid AND nolva for your PCT, PCT would start 18 days after last test C injection

    if you want a shorter cycle , you can go with Test Prop, but then you need to inject ED or EOD

    hope this helps
    I agree with T-mos, you have to extend your cycle... if it's Cyp go for 12 weeks. You'll see much better results, if you ran it for 6 weeks you would literally see 1 week of gains. lol.

    However, I disagree about T-mos about the dosage. He's 46 years old and this is his first cycle, his body is going to react like crazy at that age from that sudden surge of test. I'd say run it at 350mg for 12 weeks. You won't need more, and won't be disappointed with the gains imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seriousmass View Post
    I agree with T-mos, you have to extend your cycle... if it's Cyp go for 12 weeks. You'll see much better results, if you ran it for 6 weeks you would literally see 1 week of gains. lol.

    However, I disagree about T-mos about the dosage. He's 46 years old and this is his first cycle, his body is going to react like crazy at that age from that sudden surge of test. I'd say run it at 350mg for 12 weeks. You won't need more, and won't be disappointed with the gains imo.
    now now , i just said a BIT light......not like I am telling him he needs 750/week....lolol

    I just want him to know that 300 is on the light side, so not to expect SUPER gains, but I actually think 300 is FINE for him for his first cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-MOS View Post
    OK well skip the whole dbol var crap

    DO the test cyp, but honestly you need to run it for 10-12 weeks as the Cypionate is a very long ester and will not even fully kick in for 4-6 weeks, so you would be stopping the cycle before it ever even kicked in.

    300/mgs/week is a bit light, but you can try that for a first cycle I would still get more then one bottle though as you always lose a bit in the needle, and in filling.

    I would have an AI on hand for during the cycle in case of water or gyno signs

    and I would use clomid AND nolva for your PCT, PCT would start 18 days after last test C injection

    if you want a shorter cycle , you can go with Test Prop, but then you need to inject ED or EOD

    hope this helps
    Thanks for the quick responce

    Awsom I did started a post on my cycle thoughts and got a few nice replies.
    guess ill stick to just a test cycle.
    So if i did Test E will that be better for a shorter cycle, i just wanted to make sure my bf was not to high and looking to cut more while on a cycle

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    test E and C and about the same thing
    They are both long esters and need to be ran around 12 weeks for optimal gains. If you diet is in check while on a cycle you will lean out while putting on lean mass. Good luck to ya

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4fitness View Post
    Thanks for the quick responce

    Awsom I did started a post on my cycle thoughts and got a few nice replies.
    guess ill stick to just a test cycle.
    So if i did Test E will that be better for a shorter cycle, i just wanted to make sure my bf was not to high and looking to cut more while on a cycle
    no... test e and cyp are virtually the same. cyps ester is like 18 days, but enan's is 14 days.

    if you are going to run either one of those esters make sure the cycle is ~ 12 weeks.

    if you want to go for a short cycle, then invest in test-prop... you only have to run it for ~8 weeks.. but be prepared for injections every 2 days, and some mega sore injection sites (it hurts like hell!)

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    Ok... maybe it's just me..... but look closer at that pic...

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    I'd bulk first. The fat will come off easier when you have more muscle (higher bsm).

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-MOS View Post
    OK well skip the whole dbol var crap

    DO the test cyp, but honestly you need to run it for 10-12 weeks as the Cypionate is a very long ester and will not even fully kick in for 4-6 weeks, so you would be stopping the cycle before it ever even kicked in.

    300/mgs/week is a bit light, but you can try that for a first cycle I would still get more then one bottle though as you always lose a bit in the needle, and in filling.

    I would have an AI on hand for during the cycle in case of water or gyno signs

    and I would use clomid AND nolva for your PCT, PCT would start 18 days after last test C injection

    if you want a shorter cycle , you can go with Test Prop, but then you need to inject ED or EOD

    hope this helps
    42 here and saying ditto,.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpmaster View Post
    Ok... maybe it's just me..... but look closer at that pic...
    Whats wrong with my picture, i took it in a mirror with my camera sitting on towels lol then just cropped it resize it for the forum

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    Haha, the picture looks hilariously fake. There's no way that's the original, look at the texture of your skin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpmaster View Post
    Haha, the picture looks hilariously fake. There's no way that's the original, look at the texture of your skin.
    Yes I used a cheap ps camera and cs4 I also used despecle filter to get some of the noise out of the pictue
    I can post a original one if neede. You can use an exif reader to view the properties of a picture lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpmaster View Post
    Haha, the picture looks hilariously fake. There's no way that's the original, look at the texture of your skin.
    What exactly is he trying to fake?

    Seems like a wierd picture to fake. I think you are probably wrong.

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