5 month clean bulk progess (155-180lbs)

[PecBounce]

Here goes, this is my aprox 5 month bulk progess. Started at 155lbs and currently am 180lbs. My height is 6ft. Ive put about 1.5 inches on my arms. My bulk is clean cals and everything was recorded. The lighting in the pics/positions arnt the best but I did the best I could. Still nowhere close to my goal. Thinking I should continue to bulkm maybe to 210lbs? Opinions? My chest is my major weakpoint I believe. All the pictures are non pump/non post workout.

[PecBounce]

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[shutup]

Goodwork! Doesn't look like uve put on much fat either, what's ur gym workout and nutrition look like?

[PecBounce]

Goodwork! Doesn't look like uve put on much fat either, what's ur gym workout and nutrition look like?

Thanks buddy. Currently my diet is 4000 cals, 360g protein, 360-400g carbs, 125g fat(or less). My split normally goes M-Chest/Tris T-Back/Bis/Calves Wed-Off Thurs-Shoulders Fri-Legs Sat-Chest/traps

[xelnaga]

Whats with guys posting pics of their pubic region? The uterus lines really ruin my night. JMO

[TheNuttz02]

Whats with guys posting pics of their pubic region? The uterus lines really ruin my night. JMO

What i was thinking, far too low down lol.

[paulzane]

DSm will like it though!!

[PecBounce]

You guys think I should continue to bulk?

[soulstealer]

I Vote for a slow diet over the next 4 months... about a 1lb a week or so....

[oatmeal69]

Whats with guys posting pics of their pubic region? The uterus lines really ruin my night. JMO

Yoinks, me too, did you shave that sh*t?
Having started out as a skinny/fat hard-gain guy myself, I'd say lean mass building. The fat content in your diet is too high, I'd drop your total calories, and you didn't say you were doing cardio. Those should change. You may put on "size" more slowly, but it will be quality stuff.

[PecBounce]

Yoinks, me too, did you shave that sh*t?
Having started out as a skinny/fat hard-gain guy myself, I'd say lean mass building. The fat content in your diet is too high, I'd drop your total calories, and you didn't say you were doing cardio. Those should change. You may put on "size" more slowly, but it will be quality stuff.

Thanks for the advice. I do not do cardio because from what I had read its counter productive when bulking. Is this not true? Also, I dont have any cheat meals and have calculated my BMR with the forumula in the how to clean bulk thread. I dont see how I could cut fat any less without getting the proper macros/cals? Any advice on that?

APROX AVERAGE DAY-(all macros are recorded through fitday and I have logged custom foods that are not in the fiday system)
Meal 1:
4 packets oatmeal
1 banana
whey protein
4 egg whites
4 whole eggs

Gym

Post workout shake (whey protein/dextrose)

Meal 2:
8oz lean cut steak(fat removed if any)
2 cup brown rice

Meal 3:
8oz chicken
1 sweet poatoe

Meal 4:
4 pieces ezekiel bread
2 tbs natty PB
1 banana

Meal 5:
2 cup lean turkey chili


Meal 6:
1 cup cottage cheese
Whey protein
5 Egg whites


Supplements

Fish oil 6xdaily
3 multi daily
1 vitamin D

[PecBounce]

I Vote for a slow diet over the next 4 months... about a 1lb a week or so....

As in a cut or a slow bulk?

[oatmeal69]

No expert, but here's what I've learned here...
if you just want to add "bulk" then eat whatever you want. I'm assuming your ultimate goal is to add LEAN mass while shedding fat. That's a whole lot more difficult. All that said, cardio will not cause you to lose much if any muscle if you are dieting correctly.

Lose the banannas, peanut-butter, whole eggs, (egg whites only) ezikiel bread, and definitely lose the dextrose. use non-fat cottage cheese, and only lean meats - Skinless chicken breast only, steak only once in a while.
Calc. out what exactly is in your shakes - a lot of sugar and fat exist in lesser quality ones. You don't need that much fish oil - it is good fat, but fat nonetheless.

Post this in the diet forum with your stats and goals. People WAY more knowledgeable than me will help you.

[PecBounce]

No expert, but here's what I've learned here...
if you just want to add "bulk" then eat whatever you want. I'm assuming your ultimate goal is to add LEAN mass while shedding fat. That's a whole lot more difficult. All that said, cardio will not cause you to lose much if any muscle if you are dieting correctly.

Lose the banannas, peanut-butter, whole eggs, (egg whites only) ezikiel bread, and definitely lose the dextrose. use non-fat cottage cheese, and only lean meats - Skinless chicken breast only, steak only once in a while.
Calc. out what exactly is in your shakes - a lot of sugar and fat exist in lesser quality ones. You don't need that much fish oil - it is good fat, but fat nonetheless.

Post this in the diet forum with your stats and goals. People WAY more knowledgeable than me will help you.

I appreciate the advice once again but some of the stuff you said makes me scratch my head. I have posted my diet before in that section and got positive responses. So no dextrose for glycogen repairs? Steak is a complete protein source that contains proteins(aminos) that others dont but I should limit myself on a bulk to chicken only? I have read that without the change between protein sources one can develop a food alergy and lack some of the proteins the others have to offer? Without the help of anabolics how am I going to "gain muscle and lose fat"? Cardio burns calories which means I will have to eat even more to fullfill my caloric needs. I expected to gain fat along with muscle since I am bulking. My protein is a high quality (Optimium). Whats wrong with ezikiel whole grain/wheat bread? Complex carb just like oatmeal, correct? I understand using non fat cottage cheese and skinless chicken breast. Once again, not trying to disagree or argue with you, just trying to understand where your coming from and hopefully further my knowledge. Thanks for any insight.

[binsser]

looks good to me m8!

[oatmeal69]

So no dextrose for glycogen repairs?

No, this is old science, disproven long ago.

Steak is a complete protein source that contains proteins(aminos) that others dont but I should limit myself on a bulk to chicken only?

Steak is okay, if you account for all the excess trans-fat in it.

I have read that without the change between protein sources one can develop a food alergy and lack some of the proteins the others have to offer?

Not that I'm aware of.

Without the help of anabolics how am I going to "gain muscle and lose fat"?

Proper diet and training.

Cardio burns calories which means I will have to eat even more to fullfill my caloric needs.

You need to figure your TDEE, and your macro ratio, and go from there with high nutrient food.

I expected to gain fat along with muscle since I am bulking.

You don't have to, but it's up to you.

My protein is a high quality (Optimium).

It's okay, but I wouldn't say it's "high quality." There is better out there.

Whats wrong with ezikiel whole grain/wheat bread? Complex carb just like oatmeal, correct?

No, it's been broken down and processed. Whole oats are better.