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    Me at 160lbs 06/11/11


    Ill update my gh thread.
    I really starting to get strong again, when I stated t4 it hampered my strength for about 4 weeks but I got it back now.


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    Finally getting somewhere, traps and arms have exploded, feeling a lot more solid as well. my biceps are rock hard, very different than usual.
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    You can do it bro, shit naturally I started out at 215 and sat at 245 for the longest...

    Eat right and push hard you will get there...

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    looking good mate, to be honest the first one which is same as 1 you posted the other day at 190 dosnt do you justice but the last 2 look good, big difference between the pics, amazing what difference lighting and angles can make isnt it, what b/f are you hoping for at 220?

    and who is the girl with her arm around you in pic no.2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanB View Post
    looking good mate, to be honest the first one which is same as 1 you posted the other day at 190 dosnt do you justice but the last 2 look good, big difference between the pics, amazing what difference lighting and angles can make isnt it, what b/f are you hoping for at 220?

    and who is the girl with her arm around you in pic no.2?



    Those pics I posted the other day was me at 160, I think I confused a lot of people. Sorry bout that
    The girl is this chick I met in Puerto Vallarta 2 years ago, she was a dead fish in bed, but slamming body.
    I tried to get my legs the best way I could for the pics.
    Well I think Im back up to 12% cause I ate like shit the last two weeks, but Im back on the diet again. Need to trim down b4 starting cycle.
    At 225 I wanna be 12% and hold that for a while till I get used to the weight and my body, then try to cut down to 9%.
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    no the top one there when your lying by the bed and then the two below it, big difference and its same weight just different lighting angles and flexed

    hahahaha ah i had a few of them, its such a disappointment isnt it, over here we say ''she lay there like a sack of potatoes''

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    Quote Originally Posted by FONZY007 View Post
    You can do it bro, shit naturally I started out at 215 and sat at 245 for the longest...

    Eat right and push hard you will get there...
    Thanks man, Im still getting used to this weight, and my strength has just started to go way up, Im seeing a 5lb a week in weights on everything

    These are all in repping range of weights btw 6-12 reps 4 sets
    Bench Press 225-240
    Incline 225-240
    Front Squat 225
    Squat 315
    Lat Pulldowns 225-235
    One Arm Rows 100lb db's
    Weighted Pullups BW+45lbs
    Military Press 145 (does not match the rest of my lifts cause just started doing these cause my shoulder got better, weight has gone up 10lbs in a week)
    Deadlift 225-250
    Bicep Curls 55lbs
    Overhead Tri Extension 85lbs-90lbs
    Shrugs 90lbs 15reps 4 sets
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanB View Post
    no the top one there when your lying by the bed and then the two below it, big difference and its same weight just different lighting angles and flexed

    hahahaha ah i had a few of them, its such a disappointment isnt it, over here we say ''she lay there like a sack of potatoes''

    How you think the legs are coming along?

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    I used to love weighted dips, I would add 3 45lbs and pound out 10-15 dips. Now my ass has bad shoulders ....

    Look good, I would love to see how much they shoot up once your on your AAS

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    I too have a tricky left shoulder that I have to watch out for

    Cycle will be dbol test and gh, I too am wonder what they are gonna turn into once I hit the needle again
    I'm completely platued out right now as far as weight gaining. I cannot gain a lbs.
    Hoping that since I am getting stronger this will result in denser fibers and the gains will start again b4 I get on the gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razr. View Post
    How you think the legs are coming along?
    yeah they coming on nicely, thr teardrop is starting to show now

    keep hammering them, when you going to start the test?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanB View Post
    yeah they coming on nicely, thr teardrop is starting to show now

    keep hammering them, when you going to start the test?
    Im starting the GH on April 1st will run that for a month 4iu then on through the cycle starting in May then 6-8iu on cycle
    I still waiting on my dbol to come and amp breaker's for my hcg ...and my clen ...but got my test, nova, adex and hcg so far.
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    Not to knock you Razr but I would say you are closer to 16-17% b/f ... You are quite smooth and no abs showing through. You have made good gains though!!

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    I take it this is a LONG term goal (225@12%BF)

    At 195 and 16% (estimate)... Do you realise that to hit your goal you would need to loose 4.2 lbs of fat while gaining 34.2 lbs of LBM?
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulzane
    Not to knock you Razr but I would say you are closer to 16-17% b/f ... You are quite smooth and no abs showing through. You have made good gains though!!
    Damn you really think I'm that high in bf%? If so I got work too do, back too 2 cardio sessions a day. I need to trim down a bit b4 starting cycle I think
    @baseline..yea 225 is long term goal, 2-4 years. Maybe you could help me with a few things. Ill post up my diet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razr. View Post
    Damn you really think I'm that high in bf%? If so I got work too do, back too 2 cardio sessions a day. I need to trim down a bit b4 starting cycle I think
    no more pb& jelly sambos either bro

    jelly haha we call that jam over here

    the beer fvcks macros right up aswell, a couple is ok but i know myself how hard it is to only have a couple . . . .

    oh yeah i'd give you mabey 14-15%, wouldnt say as high as the others but defo not 12% either

    do you ever do fasted am cardio bro? you dont have much to lose at all, it wouldnt take long . . . .
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    I don't think the way those pics were taken are doing you any favors as far as estimating BF, I'd put it 15% or less.

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    Few problems...one I take two medications that cause weight gain...seroquel and epitol. I was really on the horse a few weeks ago and got burnt out on the cardio..so I stopped and then I gained some fat. That medication does not do me any favors...ill try to get a bf composition this week..I'm really disappointed in myself right now..I was drinking beer and I ate pizza and pb&j.. got me now were but fatter
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanB

    no more pb& jelly sambos either bro

    jelly haha we call that jam over here

    the beer fvcks macros right up aswell, a couple is ok but i know myself how hard it is to only have a couple . . . .

    oh yeah i'd give you mabey 14-15%, wouldnt say as high as the others but defo not 12% either

    do you ever do fasted am cardio bro? you dont have much to lose at all, it wouldnt take long . . . .
    If I start doing he cardio 2 times a day again how long will it take to get to 12%? I done fasted cardio b4 but not in a while. Can u only do it in the morning?

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    yeah seroquel is a bitch for wayer retention aswell, no experience with epitol

    here mate you dont need be disappointed you made massive improvements over your pics at 160lbs

    seriously try stick to a diet do some fasted am cardio, then 30-45 mins p.w.o or even hiit if you have the energy and the fat will fall off, you can still have your few beers just try to keep to to weekends or 2x's per week, go low carb on the day you plan to have a few beers and drink plenty water

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razr. View Post
    If I start doing he cardio 2 times a day again how long will it take to get to 12%? I done fasted cardio b4 but not in a while. Can u only do it in the morning?
    for me mate fasted cardio is king, at moment you could say im doing cardio 2x's a day because im sparring in the pm but i dont recommend cardio twice per day, its very taxing on the body and sometimes causes me to play serious mind games with myself

    45mins cardio first thing in the morning, empty stomach, take some bcaa's if you have them but nothing else, medium intensity, for me i like a jog at between 6-7.5mph and try pick a route that incoporates a few hills, the fat will fall off,

    I reckon if you do this now until end of april and put your cycle off until then you will be very happy with the results

    this will also serve to ''prime'' your body as marcus speaks about to maximise gains from cycle, your prob already familar with it but heres a link anyway

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.T2Iv_HktmSo

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    Yea I take 600mg of seroquel and 400mg of epitol ..its a pretty high dose. Its hard for me to do fasted cardio..reason being my lifting buddies and I start cardio @11:15am..with all those meds in my system I don't get outs bed till 10-10:30am. So I'm eating eggs and and oatmeal as soon as I get up..then I'm off to the gym at 11..I don't know how to get a fasted cardio session cause I need that food to get through the workout..maybe ill do another cardio session like you said after the workout

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    yeah that is high, 300 is the norm isnt it, you getting any sides from that?

    yeah that could work aswell but is there no way you could workout later in the evening?

    personally i need to be up for min 3-4 hours before i lift and at least 2 meals otherwise i lack energy

    the fasted am is fine for me because i can just roll out of bed, take some bcaa and run up the road half asleep, half it is done in a daze and its over before you know it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razr.

    Damn you really think I'm that high in bf%? If so I got work too do, back too 2 cardio sessions a day. I need to trim down a bit b4 starting cycle I think
    @baseline..yea 225 is long term goal, 2-4 years. Maybe you could help me with a few things. Ill post up my diet.
    I think it can be done in a year and a half...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanB
    yeah that is high, 300 is the norm isnt it, you getting any sides from that?

    yeah that could work aswell but is there no way you could workout later in the evening?

    personally i need to be up for min 3-4 hours before i lift and at least 2 meals otherwise i lack energy

    the fasted am is fine for me because i can just roll out of bed, take some bcaa and run up the road half asleep, half it is done in a daze and its over before you know it
    I could workout later in the evening..but not with my lifting buddies..I guess I need to make some sacrifices..other than this water retention no sides

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    either way will work, what hartman said or what i said

    why dont you try his way for a while and see how you get on, if you arent happy for whatever reason then try my way

    starting a thread with your diet would do no harm either, you know yourself that the guys in there know their stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanB View Post
    either way will work, what hartman said or what i said

    why dont you try his way for a while and see how you get on, if you arent happy for whatever reason then try my way

    starting a thread with your diet would do no harm either, you know yourself that the guys in there know their stuff
    I am going to see if I can wean my way off the meds or at least get to a lower dose. Ill put up my diet now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanB View Post
    for me mate fasted cardio is king, at moment you could say im doing cardio 2x's a day because im sparring in the pm but i dont recommend cardio twice per day, its very taxing on the body and sometimes causes me to play serious mind games with myself

    45mins cardio first thing in the morning, empty stomach, take some bcaa's if you have them but nothing else, medium intensity, for me i like a jog at between 6-7.5mph and try pick a route that incoporates a few hills, the fat will fall off,

    I reckon if you do this now until end of april and put your cycle off until then you will be very happy with the results

    this will also serve to ''prime'' your body as marcus speaks about to maximise gains from cycle, your prob already familar with it but heres a link anyway

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.T2Iv_HktmSo
    ok ill put it off and prime for a while till I get the bf lower, I cant gain anymore bf otherwise its going to get outa control
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    Well I got my first clean meal in in a while. Chicken and a yam, feel better already..

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    This is typical of a bulk phase though right? You cant put on 100% muscle and go from 160 to 195? I feel I was already around 14-15% b4 I started to put on weight, my plan was not to cut but to bulk so maybe I did it right, I gained the muscle but kept the same fat% now I just need to trim it down a bit
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    Don't beat yourself up about bodyfat levels just eat cleaner for longer and cut out most of the shyte! If you are going to go for a competition then you can get serious about your diet. A reasonable b/f estimate site is:

    http://thisiswhyyourejacked.com/a-bo...-picture-guide

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    Im getting my bf% measure tomorrow. Will post it up!

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    Aight just got done with bf% I'm 12.22%..

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    Very nice forearms and chest. I'm jealous. Keep up the good work.

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    Looking good bro...keep up the hard work you will get to 225lbs

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    great thread razr. prop to you. huge improvement from 160 and you look great...

    how was the bf measured?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanB View Post
    for me mate fasted cardio is king, at moment you could say im doing cardio 2x's a day because im sparring in the pm but i dont recommend cardio twice per day, its very taxing on the body and sometimes causes me to play serious mind games with myself

    45mins cardio first thing in the morning, empty stomach, take some bcaa's if you have them but nothing else, medium intensity, for me i like a jog at between 6-7.5mph and try pick a route that incoporates a few hills, the fat will fall off,

    I reckon if you do this now until end of april and put your cycle off until then you will be very happy with the results

    this will also serve to ''prime'' your body as marcus speaks about to maximise gains from cycle, your prob already familar with it but heres a link anyway

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.T2Iv_HktmSo
    MIND GAMES are right.... If I do too much cardio I start getting paranoid and shit.... at like 2+ hours a day my body is like WTF?!!?! This mother****er had to have out ran whatever the **** was chasing him... then it starts ****in with me trying to get me to hide... instead of run away lol

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    ha I always thought your avatar was you (especially since you can't see the face in your avatar). But regardless keep up the progress, its always harder to start gaining when your starting point is naturally pretty light.

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    i thought the avatar was him too!! i was almost disappointed

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    Quote Originally Posted by pikenat View Post
    ha I always thought your avatar was you (especially since you can't see the face in your avatar). But regardless keep up the progress, its always harder to start gaining when your starting point is naturally pretty light.
    Quote Originally Posted by havehotasianwife View Post
    i thought the avatar was him too!! i was almost disappointed
    lol, yeah if that was him in his avy I don't think he would need our help...hell, I would be asking him for advice!

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