My Summer 2012

hello everybody, My name is Andrea, I'm from Italy.

here march 2011 after 2 months diet
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here september 2011 after cardio and diet
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here exactly after 1 year
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this is my evolution until now more or less natural, but I want more, and I'm looking forward for a cycle.
I just did an Hdrol cycle, I went up 6kg, but lost 5kg.

My friends are all doing test propionate, tren ace and someone boldenone.

There are someone whose first cycle, and someone whose not.
for me it would be something new, I read much about tren and I saw results on my friends, It seems to be incredible, but some say its evil for first cycle.
Under hdrol, i did not have any sides, i ran PCT and everything.
But I hated the wáter retention, i want to grow clean this time.
this is why propionate and tren.
what do you think?

my age: 27

Amazing what was your diet and workout routine like your cardio

Test only for first cycle.

welcome to the board mate!
---Roman

Hi, ok my diet, was a little strange, anyways, very strict, and 2 times a week spinning.
At the end of my diet, towards end of september, I started to loose muscle severely, but in october I began bulking.

how many kg / libs could I bulk with a test propionate only cycle? I'm 1.85m on 76kg. It sounds wery little but I'm extreme lightweight, i think my bones are made of carbon haha.
My natural weight is between 65-68kg.

My goal is to bulk lean. I did hdrol and i was shocked of the water retention, so i want go lean.
Do you think 5-6kg could be possible?
Thanks!!!

I would run a standard test e for 12 weeks at 500 mg. get an ai and have nolva and clomid for pct

wow nice work mate.

simple test cycle as mentioned. no one can say what u will gain on a cycle but what more important is how u recover to keep those gains.

ur true gains will be after pct to see what u have maintained

GL

Ok, thanks man. Test propionate is shure, i'm looking to add some boldenone, but i fear water retention. Now its summer, and i've to be lean as much as possible. If you want give me some hints, i'll post my results weekly. Thanks!!!

If you want to stay lean then do not run bold or any other oral. Well winny is good for the hard look but this is your first cycle you need to keep it simple so you can learn your body.
Keep diet in check! Head over to diet section and look around

Ok, my idea was to run 75mg propio eod and tren 75mg eod x 6 weeks.
Since i quit tren, i'll have to rise the propionate, maybe 100mg or more? How many weeks, 8?
Thanks

Use Test E or Test C for your first cycle.

hi to all, after all Reading and hearing to my friends, I started a week ago this cycle:

-250mg onmadren EW (someting like sustanon)
-25mg eod Trenbolone acetate
-20mg Proviron ED
-10mg Tamoxifen ED

so, tren is working good right now, no severe sides, only some insomnia. I was thinking to rise a Little bit the dose, maybe 50mg eod.
I know the mínimum dosage is around 75mg, but I rather play it safe, and anyway, I'm burning fat very fast right now, probably its the tren.
I made this cycle, because Test Propionate is imposible to find here in spain, and its extremely expensive, but with tren eod I'm shooting like a fool, and my delts are still aching after 3-4 days.

Here some fotos, take in mind the quality of the camera is very por, and I'm on strict diet until next week, then i'll start bulking
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Dude are u doing leg exercises?No offense but legs seem a bit "Out of shape"...maybe it's just me donno..

yeah, you're right Green, my legs sucks, I never trained legs because my upper part was a bigger mess tan my legs, so immagine...
but I'm training onece/twice a week since 3-4 months ago, now I have a lot of definition and veins on my legs, but still no mass.
I hope later this weeks with trenbolone and a "fuller" diet, they will grow a bit.

You seem to have a damn good foundation. Just eat and a lot, try to keep it lean. . . But, I guess it also depends on how big you wanna get.

Hi all, I put on in my first week, 3kg!!!!! Thats amazing, I was shocked. and from yesterday, to today, 500g!!!! Now I'm scared, thats too much, and anyway I don't think its muscle, I rather think its water-retention or fat.
I'm running my cicle with aid of tamoxifen and proviron, to avoid estrogen, but Its kickin my ass anyway.
Is it normal such retention after a week of sustanon and trenbolone???
What can I do to brake this stuff???At the beginning of the cicle I had good abs, now they're going away very fast, should I lower the dose of sust? or raise the dose of tamox??
My diet is hyperproteic, the same diet before the cycle, where I lost 2kg in 3 weeks. and I do everyday 25min cardio.
thanks!!

hi all. I had a lots of problems with my accout, and couldn't write. so, I'm starting a new cycle in a couple of weeks, mu idea is
week:
1-8: 500mg/EW sustanon
1-2: 50mg/ED tren Ace
3-8: 75mg/ED tren Ace
1-8: 0,5mg/EW Cabergoline
1-8: 10mg/ED Aromasin
1-8: saw palmetto or finasteride for my prostate

My Tren is Prochem. seems to be legit, but I gave a try and with only 0,3ml I got a bad PIP in my shoulder. not that bad as with the prevous tren, that was a complete bunk, Optimum pharma.
But I'm a Little bit scared about Prochem, they cant even spell right Trenbolone (they write trenbelone instead). plus, it expires in 2013... I mean, how can someone trust in a Lab that can't even write the proper name of its products???? Anyway, Reading fórums, it seems that Prochem is one of the best labs out there.
Is my cycle ok? should I trust in Prochem? thanks!!!