8 months progress

[tice1212]

Hey boys it's been a little while. Hope ur making so fvcking good gains and turning heads.
This is what I have been doing the last 8 months.

April-june
400mg test c
400mg deca
40mg dbol
6ui of hgh (godt)

Training:
3 days on 1 day off

Later in cycle switched it to

Matt Jansen custom program
(A lot like dogcrap training and muscle rounder workouts) 4on 1off

Diet
Est. Macros
Carbs 500g, 350g, 75g

July-sep (didn't grow as much as first cycle maybe 10lbs but made my gains solid)
Test c 400mg
Eq 600mg
6 ui hgh (godt)

Training
Matt Jansen custom program
(A lot like dogcrap training and muscle rounder workouts) 4on 1off

Diet
Est. Macros
Carbs 300g, 350g, 100g

Oct-now
Test c 250mg
Test p 400mg
Tren a 400mg
Winny 50mg
Proviron 50mg

Training
My own custom program 5on 2off
30mins cardiovascular post wo
Muscle rounders/pause reps/pyramid reps

Diet
I came to realize I do very bad with high fats. So what I did was cut them down a lot and started to cut up fast!!
Est. Macros
Carbs 350-400g, 350g, 25g

[TheTaxMan]

Long time no see tice

Massive difference there buddy, well done, ive only viewed the pics and quickly proof read your post, looks like a successful recomp?

[DHew]

Legs in second pic look way bigger, nice job for sure looking good

[TheTaxMan]

I see the most difference in delts/arms areas

Either way looking great!

[tice1212]

Thanks gentlemen. It was hard bulking during the summer. But right now.im trying to get my bf% in the single digests to make my body more sensitive to food. Have u guys heard of that method before?

[DHew]

No I havent, will you enlighten me?

[tice1212]

No I havent, will you enlighten me?

Have u ever done a show before? If not let me explain. When ur show ready ur body is a sponge. It's looking soak up nutrition for put ur body back into a normal bf%. When ur bf is more than 12% ur body doesn't utilize all the nutrition because ur body isn't in starvation mode so it will use most (60-70%) of it but not all of it. When on gear this ups the ratio (yes my ratios can be off but the idea is still the same). When ur body is in the single digest the body is fighting u to loss any more weight do to starvation mode. Let's say u are 12% and drop down to 8% and blast a heavy cycle (dosage depending on experience) and up ur food uptake. The body is likely going to utilize most of the food if not all of it. Most people will call this method (priming) Marcos has a huge article on priming ur body for short burst cycling. I personally don't like short blasts because my body never seems to stick the weight I put on with gear so what I do is this

14% drop it to 8%
Cardio: fasted or post workout
Diet: 500 calories deficit 45/45/10
Training: power movements then bodybuilding movements
Gearing: mid dosages

Once primed in 8%
Blast a heavy cycle (4 weeks)
Calories 500 over maintenance
Training: power movements then bodybuilding movements
But then lower my dosages just a little so I can run this cycle for 10 weeks.

[DHew]

Very interesting. I have not done a show before, but i am prepping to do one this spring. Check out my new competitor log in the comp. subforum please, this is great info.

[MuscleScience]

Have u ever done a show before? If not let me explain. When ur show ready ur body is a sponge. It's looking soak up nutrition for put ur body back into a normal bf%. When ur bf is more than 12% ur body doesn't utilize all the nutrition because ur body isn't in starvation mode so it will use most (60-70%) of it but not all of it. When on gear this ups the ratio (yes my ratios can be off but the idea is still the same). When ur body is in the single digest the body is fighting u to loss any more weight do to starvation mode. Let's say u are 12% and drop down to 8% and blast a heavy cycle (dosage depending on experience) and up ur food uptake. The body is likely going to utilize most of the food if not all of it. Most people will call this method (priming) Marcos has a huge article on priming ur body for short burst cycling. I personally don't like short blasts because my body never seems to stick the weight I put on with gear so what I do is this

14% drop it to 8%
Cardio: fasted or post workout
Diet: 500 calories deficit 45/45/10
Training: power movements then bodybuilding movements
Gearing: mid dosages

Once primed in 8%
Blast a heavy cycle (4 weeks)
Calories 500 over maintenance
Training: power movements then bodybuilding movements
But then lower my dosages just a little so I can run this cycle for 10 weeks.

Looking good Bro, and thanks for the info!

[kelkel]

Any updated pics you can post? Or pm?

[tice1212]

Very interesting. I have not done a show before, but i am prepping to do one this spring. Check out my new competitor log in the comp. subforum please, this is great info.

I'll for sure check it out brother. Best of luck.

Looking good Bro, and thanks for the info!

I really appreciate brother. This system seem to work for me. So I figured I'd share.

[tice1212]

Any updated pics you can post? Or pm?

Here are a couple more. 215- 218lbs morning weight, 5'8

[kelkel]

Looking Great! Vascularity already there and cross striations coming in on quads!

Awesome Tice!

[oldnsedentary]

Not much juice, a lot of food, and very solid results. Good job!

[tice1212]

First picture 232lbs, middle 215, last 197.
What do u guys think?
5'7 197. What bf% do u guys think I am now?

[< <Samson> >]

Damn

Like 8%, I'd say

[tice1212]

Damn

Like 8%, I'd say

Wow really that low. Fvck I'm proud of myself lol 35lbs in 8wks isn't to shabby. Does it look like i lose a lot of muscle? 2100 calories as of this week.

[NACH3]

Your low... easy sub 10 and I'd say 8ish myself! And look a lot bigger than 197!!!

You look great Tice!

[tice1212]

Your low... easy sub 10 and I'd say 8ish myself! And look a lot bigger than 197!!!

You look great Tice!

I have a fvcked up left leg from 2 back surgeries so I cant build the glute or hamstring in that leg. So I'm going to say I'm missing a out 10lbs out of that leg so my body would probably be 210ish if that muscle was there.
I tell people my weight and they never believe me but they don't see the leg so it makes sense.
But thank you brother. I do want to try and compete again this year

[AR's King Silabolin]

nice work...almost as good as the avatardude:-)

[jaysath]

You put on a nice amount of lean hard muscle, hell yeah brother, and on very little juice to boot. It looks like the gh went a long way.The size difference in your legs is barely noticeable man!

[kelkel]

Impressive Tice!

[Strongblood]

Great job Tice! No doubt about it brother. You nailed that recomp. I'm very impressed! Congratulations!

[tice1212]

Great job Tice! No doubt about it brother. You nailed that recomp. I'm very impressed! Congratulations!

Impressive Tice!

You put on a nice amount of lean hard muscle, hell yeah brother, and on very little juice to boot. It looks like the gh went a long way.The size difference in your legs is barely noticeable man!

nice work...almost as good as the avatardude:-)

Thanks boys. Yeah this mini cut has been pretty manageable. I'm strict mon-thru 2100 calories (300p/130c/50f)
Friday I de-carb no carbs until my cheat meal at 7pm. Cheat meal Saturday and Sunday night too.

I just started this trenavar (old school pro hormone)

So current cycle
650 test
400mg tren a (100mg eod)
80mg trenavar ed

So I'm excited to see where this brings me

Cardio is 30mins post workout or 30mins fasted.
Friday and Saturday 60 mins fasted cardio

[tice1212]

Thought this was pretty cool
Left picture April 22 2016 iifym type diet
Right picture Jan 22 2016 bro science type diet

[kelkel]

Much thicker Jan 2016 pic.

[Capebuffalo]

Son you are kicking ass and taking names. Keep up the good work.

[NACH3]

Thought this was pretty cool
Left picture April 22 2016 iifym type diet
Right picture Jan 22 2016 bro science type diet

See it's all what works for you... and clearly your broscience worked well

[NACH3]

I have a fvcked up left leg from 2 back surgeries so I cant build the glute or hamstring in that leg. So I'm going to say I'm missing a out 10lbs out of that leg so my body would probably be 210ish if that muscle was there.
I tell people my weight and they never believe me but they don't see the leg so it makes sense.
But thank you brother. I do want to try and compete again this year

Hey brother I know about those muscle imbalances - only thing is trying to work it a lil more with some extra reps(unilaterally)?!

Tice I wish you the best on competing again as I know your in much better shape this time around! Your looking killer man

[tice1212]

I was speaking to my buddy that is a well known bb in the area and a coach. He asked me how much I was eating, training and cardio. He told me that I should be much more head for how much work I'm putting out.
Do you guys think I'm putting out to much work for the way my body looks after 8 weeks???

I told him that my calories had dropped from
Nov 22, 232lbs 3500 cal
Dec 10, 215lbs 3000 cal
Jan 1, 203lbs 2600 cal
Jan 13, 195lbs Now 2100 cal macros 290p/105c/45f

Cardio (low intensity)
Elliptical 30mins either fasted or pwo
Friday cheat meal & Rest day 60min

Training
M: Back bi 90mins
T: chest tri 90mins
W: legs 90mins
Thu: shoulder abs 70min
F: arms 60mins
Sat: 60mins cardio
Sun: rest

Cycle
Wks i have been on
1-9 650 test EW
1-91400mg tren a (100mg EOD)
8-9 80mg trenavar (20MG E4hr)
3 days ago 50mcg t3 (25mcg AM/25mcg PM)

[tice1212]

Here is from last saturday morning after a carb load (cheat meal on Friday)
Did 4 days no carbs (40 or less) then on Friday had 6 garlic knots and a huge stromboli (light cheese)
Friday morning weight 191
Saturday morning weight 196


191

[kelkel]

Looking good Tice!

[tice1212]

Looking good Tice!

Thanks brother. What do u think my bf% is in ur opinion

[kelkel]

Hard to tell as the pictures aren't crisp. I'd guess 9, but I'm not good at guessing.

[Richard Cabeza]

Here is from last saturday morning after a carb load (cheat meal on Friday)
Did 4 days no carbs (40 or less) then on Friday had 6 garlic knots and a huge stromboli (light cheese)
Friday morning weight 191
Saturday morning weight 196


191

Goals!!! Looking good man

[tice1212]

Goals!!! Looking good man

Thanks brother. Trying.

[solit1ea]

Tice! Looking good brotha! Def got big improvements from the beginning. I think you are on to something with you diet. Few questions though for the group though:

1) Do all of you go so low in fats? Tice, if I looked at it right, you are sitting around 10% for total daily fats? I know fats are essential for natural hormonal balance, but does it make any difference being on gear vs. natural?

2) I see you do cardio, I'm assuming its LIT cardio (low intensity)? Are HIT cardio sessions not recommended due to BP issues or something like that? May be a silly question, but I'm slowly trying to learn.

I just ask these questions because I'm just trying to piece a few things together for my first cycle and wanted to make sure I'm doing it right. First I need to find a doctor who will help get my insurance to cover my gyno I've had since I was 13/14....

Thanks!

[Marsoc]

I mean..I see the difference..def lower body fat, and some mass..my dilemma is that it just doesn't seem like all that much considering all the compunds you ran. Then again I never cycled so I don't have any idea what to expect. I guess I had in my head that maybe double that mass in gains would be achieved in all areas from 8months of hardcore disciplined training and dieting. I know one wouldn't be able to get them gains along with losing that body fat naturaly in 8months at the same time ..maybe one or the other I guess.
I do notice the delts are noticibly bigger and the chest is More chiseled though and all in all more lean ...looking good that's for sure

[Marsoc]

Here is from last saturday morning after a carb load (cheat meal on Friday)
Did 4 days no carbs (40 or less) then on Friday had 6 garlic knots and a huge stromboli (light cheese)
Friday morning weight 191
Saturday morning weight 196


191

Then again after seeing some other pics. You are looking great brother..maybe them first ones I seen didn't do you justice.
I can't wait to start my first cycle

[Mr. Small]

Great condition.....

Just wondering what would happen if the OP quit taking roids permanently?
Could he hold on to his gains through training and strict diet?