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    31 year old - lifting on/off for 8 years; 5'11, 170 lbs - Andropen

    Hi all,

    31 year old male here. I've been weight lifting for around 6-8 years, few years on, few years off. As I get older, I notice my testosterone level drop, and I need some supplements. I've always flirted with shooting some test, and I think I'm ready to bite the bullet. One of my best friends has been shooting for years, and got me 10ml of Andropen (20mgs of Testosterone Acetate, 75mgs of Testosterone Cypionate , 90mgs of Testosterone Decanoate, and 40mgs each of Testosterone Propionate and Phenylpropionate)

    I'm thinking of running this for my first cycle. I still have some weight to lose midsection, but have been dieting hard for over a year, and recently coming off a 6 week keto cycle.



    I'm looking for recommendations, diet recommendations, etc. I have no friends, no girlfriend, dont really party that much anymore, so I should be able to stick to whatever. I mean I havnt had but 15 carbs for the last 6 weeks.

    Thanks guys!

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    Hi guys. at the recommendations of some friends and others on here, I decided to get some blood work done. and I must say, I was quite surprised at the result. It turns out I have hypothyroidism - which makes sense given the last 8 or so years of my life. I've ALWAYS struggled with weight (used to be 220+lb) and daily gym with a perfect diet and running has hardly got me beyond slightly better than average. I guess this all makes sense of it.

    My TSH was 4.55 - so above borderline hypothroidism.

    WBC & RBC both low - not exactly sure why. tsh 4.55. t4 total 6.4

    So far I have the andropen - I plan on pinning after my 2dn verify blood test next week. I am currently ordering t-3 50mcg for cutting. arimidex 1mg, & clomid 50mg. ripper blend for next cycle I think. Still need to find Nolvadex , HCGenerate, Cardarine, and the rest for a good price.

    MY PCT looks as follows:

    Week 1-3

    Clomid 50mgs/ED
    Nolvadex 60mgs/ED
    HCGenerate ES 5 caps/ED
    Cardarine 20mgs/ED
    Aromasin 12.5mgs EOD
    Ostabolic (osta) 12.5mgs/ED
    N2Guard 7 caps/ED

    Week 4-6

    Clomid 25mgs/ED
    Nolvadex 40mgs/ED
    HCGenerate ES 4 caps/ED
    Cardarine 20mgs/ED
    Aromasin 12.5mgs E3D
    Ostabolic (osta) 12.5mgs/EOD
    N2Guard 5 caps/ED


    Any other suggestions, recommendations, comments? Thanks guys.

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    Alright guys thanks for all the info and recommendations. after some more research, my cycle looks like this.

    andropen - im thinking of .5ml every 3 days. HGC - 250 to 500 iu's every 3rd day. 12 week cycle.

    for AI on ccle, use arimidex at 0.5mg EOD? or should I do or 12.5 armosin? for the 12 week cycle.

    Then after 12 weeks, 4 weeks of PCT, Clomid 50/50/25/25 and Nolva 40/20/20/20?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cts-v View Post
    Alright guys thanks for all the info and recommendations. after some more research, my cycle looks like this.

    andropen - im thinking of .5ml every 3 days. HGC - 250 to 500 iu's every 3rd day. 12 week cycle.

    for AI on ccle, use arimidex at 0.5mg EOD? or should I do or 12.5 armosin? for the 12 week cycle.

    Then after 12 weeks, 4 weeks of PCT, Clomid 50/50/25/25 and Nolva 40/20/20/20?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    What year CTS-V? I had and 05 and 09. The 09 was pullied, intercooler, ID1000's headers, exhaust, zl1 lid, ported blower and riding on 20" Niche 810's
    You know what we euros say of murricans owning big cars? It's to compensate for small dick, lol

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    Any idea why I cant make a new thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    You know what we euros say of murricans owning big cars? It's to compensate for small dick, lol
    It may be small but at least I use it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cts-v View Post
    Any idea why I cant make a new thread?
    No, which forum you trying to post in?
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    any really. any time i try to make a post, I get hit with the spam filter, even though im not using any prohibited words....

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