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    TO roid or not to roid!

    Hi people, I have just signed up to this AR after using it for several months for FAQ about steroids and pct ect...

    Im a 21yr old student and have been trainining seriously coming up for 3 years now, im 5"6 bout 182 with bf bout 15 but am on a bulking cycle at the moment. I have tried different supplements along the way including the usual creatine, glutamine, zma.... the general newb hype stuff like no explode and v12 turbo. all i have found have helped along the way. I use instant whey 2 - 3 times a day to get my protein intake around 120g minimum aim for 180g but usual bout 150g depending on how and when i can eat. My body seems to react quite alot to high protein, calorie diet in terms of i seem to get bigger but bf seem to come on really easily and when i try to lose the bf its hard.

    i have been looking at AS for a good 3/4 months and have read lots of threads on this forum pluss many more which have been helpful but alot seem to contradict them selves so i thought i would post my own thread hopefully sorting out any questions i have left at 1st i was thinking of doing dbol but after reading up on tbol is seems like a much better choice for what i want which is jst lean mass to help complete an overall fuller look...for my 1s cycle im thinking of doing some oral tbol about 5 week cycle...

    40mg ed week1
    40mg ed week2
    50mg ed week 3
    50mg ed week 4
    50mg ed week 5
    then for pct i was thiking nolvadex tamoxifen
    1st day 60mg then 6 days of 40mg then 10 days at 20mg

    now i dont want to put on huge amounts of muscle mass being quite short but from what i have read 10lbs is usual with this..? After this i was thinking of doing clenbuterol to lose the bodyfat.. which i havent looked into as much yet but would be about an 8 week cycle pluss i heard it firms you up after a bulking cycle and keeps strength high but was not sure if to start after pct or jst run as well as pct to keep gains... pluss would you still run the same weight training routine with this supplemement? all your help and comments are appreciated..

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    looks good to me...

    as for the clen.
    im on it right now... nice stuff actually...

    if i was going to do a cycle, i would do the clen first. then do the roids. but thats just me...

    why ? cuz you want to keep as much muscle as possible after the cycle. and when cutting you will probebly loose some...
    also its probebly easyer to gain back the muscle you lost, during the cycle....

    or do clen before, and after...

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    welcome bro!!!

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    yo markus cheers for your opinion what have u found with your cycle then as im am very curious about it what changes so far?, i have heard basicly your strength increases, your muscles harden and it uses your body fat as energy..? so as i mentioned do u carry on with a bulking training low reps and heavy or more higher reps with light weight? pluss i heard it stop your muscles from canabilising themself after training so your can lower your calorie intake without worry of muscle loss? pluss have u got yourelf tourine supps?

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    hello fellow members... what do u think to my post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markus_d
    looks good to me...

    as for the clen.
    im on it right now... nice stuff actually...

    if i was going to do a cycle, i would do the clen first. then do the roids. but thats just me...

    why ? cuz you want to keep as much muscle as possible after the cycle. and when cutting you will probebly loose some...
    also its probebly easyer to gain back the muscle you lost, during the cycle....

    or do clen before, and after...
    Welcome bro. BTW if you decide your doing this run the clen PCT to help with cortisol levels instead of b4. Good luck.

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    so both at the same time yea?

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    Bump that protein up 2grams per lb of bodyweight.

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    welcome

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    Welcome to AR!
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    jing jai

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    welcome to the dark siddee

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