Noob from Pittsburgh

[PTown]

well i'm from the Pittsburgh area, and i have been contemplating steroids/heavier substances than in gnc, vitamin store, etc. a bit nervous/scared of the reprussions. i am 6'0, 165 lbs, good shape, lean, but i have been trying to get to 180 for the past 2-3 years with no succest (i was about 160-165 for the past 2-3 years. not goin for the easy way out right away. also, i'm 22. any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Big]

Welcome. Take a look at the bulking diets in the diet section and compare it to what you've been eating.

[PTown]

that meal plan there seems pretty good. sucks i have tried eating every way under the sun the past 2-3 years. heaviest i got is 170 which is only 5 lbs over what i was 2-3 years ago, but now i'm at 165 again. i've tried eating healthy and right, i've tried fast food/unhealthy, etc etc. nothing has worked as of yet. the biggest complaint about my body is my legs. they are VERY undersized. they are long and skinny (chicken legs, etc.) my upper body is so so, shoulders are decent sized, chest is slowly but surely developing, arms are a bit small, etc.

[PTown]

not the best picture, but the only one i have right now *just imagine my legs as being extremely skinny* this was taken about 4-5 months ago, i haven't got much bigger if at all

[Big]

When you say you have tried eating healthy, what would be an example? What did you eat, how many grams protein per day, etc. and for how long did you try it before you decided it wasn't working for you?

[Big]

Also, what does your leg day routine look like?

[PTown]

When you say you have tried eating healthy, what would be an example? What did you eat, how many grams protein per day, etc. and for how long did you try it before you decided it wasn't working for you?

basically with money tight, i eat 3 meals a day......certainly nothing like what is stated on the diet page. i have ate, ate, ate, just to put on weight then worry about leaning out, etc. but it didn't work. i train mixed martial arts and fight amatuer so it's hard to keep weight on when burning so many calories, etc.

[PTown]

Also, what does your leg day routine look like?

4 sets of squats 8-12 reps, two normal then two with the bar on my chest/front of me (don't know the name)
use 135-150lbs.
3 sets of deadlifs 8-12 reps, use 135-150 lbs.
2-3 sets of the sled with, 360-4??
2 or 3 sets of hamstring curls, leg curls with 80-100 for hamstrings and 130-150 of front

[Big]

I know it's not what you want to hear, but if you want to put on some serious size you have to eat like you see on the bulking forums. Gear would be a total waste of money, it sounds like you aren't eating enough to support your current size, much less to grow. At your age your natural testosterone levels would be plenty to get big, but you have to give your body the fuel it needs or you'll never make it to your goals.

[PTown]

i don't wanna be HUGE, i just wanna be around 180-185 and look decent sized. i wouldn't say i'm undersized, my legs certainly are, but when i see guys in the gym *some are noticably on supplements other than creatine/protein, etc* a certain jealousy factor/self image problem comes up

[PTown]

I know it's not what you want to hear, but if you want to put on some serious size you have to eat like you see on the bulking forums. Gear would be a total waste of money, it sounds like you aren't eating enough to support your current size, much less to grow. At your age your natural testosterone levels would be plenty to get big, but you have to give your body the fuel it needs or you'll never make it to your goals.

yea, i've heard that, it sucks when money is tight. i'm in college right now, so getting tons of groceries and plowing through them is tough to do. do you have any links, etc. that you think would be good, diet/food wise to put on about 10-15 lbs

[Big]

I just did a quick search and most of the returns were from other boards so I don't know if it's cool to post them here, so just go to Yahoo or Google and enter "budget bulking diet" and browse through the matches. I found one right off the bat that was how to bulk on a college students budget. Good luck bro.

[PTown]

thanks for the help.

[Big]

thanks for the help.

No problem man, keep us posted on your progress and don't get discouraged, you can do it.

[PTown]

i'm gonna go to the store tomorrow, get some fruit/veggies, brown rice, oatmeal, tuna, anything else i should pick up? if funds allow

[Big]

i'm gonna go to the store tomorrow, get some fruit/veggies, brown rice, oatmeal, tuna, anything else i should pick up? if funds allow

look for chicken on sale, good source of protein, eggs too.

[PTown]

indeed, will do tomorrow and start that up tuesday, followed by hardcore weight training. give it another 8 weeks before i post updated pics, unless i see a change in the scale prior

[Big]

Try to eat something every couple hours, condition yourself to stick to that. It's not easy but it's worth the results. Never wait till you're hungry to eat, just keep shoveling it in. I actually set my alarm to remind me to eat, the people at work think I'm a little obsessive (maybe I am) but it's worth it.

[S.P.G]

welcome to AR bro!!

[nyjetsfan86]

welcome aboard hit me with a PM i can help you out i was in the exact same boat as you

[PTown]

i can't send you a pm, i don't have enough posts/or the authority to do so......

[PTown]

here's three pics i just took, all basically the same, all upperbody/chest.....




another problem i have, is when i eat, eat, eat. it all goes straight to my gut. then i get discouraged because i start looking fat and lay off as much

[burghsteel]

welcome bro im from da burgh 2....eat eat eat

[PTown]

i went out and got 6 cans of tuna, bag of brown rice, wheat bread, plain oatmeal, 5 or 6 cans of veggies, protein powder, and i think that's almost it. all i can afford right now. i just got done eating three tuna and cheese sandwhiches, and a protein shake. will probably boil some of the rice in a couple hours. burghsteel, who is that in your av?

[Big]

Sounds like you're on the right track.

[PTown]

if after a few months i still wanna juice, what would be suggested based on my bodytype? 6'0, 170lbs, the pics, etc. asked a guy i know what he would suggest for what i want, he said that dianabol/winstrol

[Big]

if after a few months i still wanna juice, what would be suggested based on my bodytype? 6'0, 170lbs, the pics, etc. asked a guy i know what he would suggest for what i want, he said that dianabol/winstrol

For starters I wouldn't ask that guy anything else
Give it a few months to see how you progress then ask us, the answer will depend on what gains you've made in that time.

[PTown]

For starters I wouldn't ask that guy anything else
Give it a few months to see how you progress then ask us, the answer will depend on what gains you've made in that time.

indeed, thanks much for all advice

[PTown]

i'm used to teh boil in a bag/minute rice. i put brown rice on boil for a while, took it off and forgot that it has to be cooked for 45 minutes, needless to say i am eating hard rice and tuna right now

[Big]

i'm used to teh boil in a bag/minute rice. i put brown rice on boil for a while, took it off and forgot that it has to be cooked for 45 minutes, needless to say i am eating hard rice and tuna right now

hehe I've done the same thing, kind of nutty the way it crunches

[PTown]

what are some good exercises for the lower back? i've been having pain for months. i have flat feet with bone contusions and what not *i have custom fitted orthodics, but they only help minorly* well my back has been a bother since march or april.

[Big]

dead lifts

[PTown]

indeed, i did some yesterday but my back felt horrible so i only did one set.

[pittstud78]

what gym you guys use?

I've been reading a lot lately, and in the same boat as PTOWN. Started lifting 2 years ago when I was 135lb (5-9) and now Im 160. Been trying to eat right, proteins, and all that. No tuna, but lots of eggs, turkey, and chicken. I also try to pig out after workouts.
A buddy I work out with at the gym started on dbol 2 weeks ago, and he's probably put on a good 10lb already. (water and fat.. maybe?) but, I told him to hook me up, and the gear is in the mail. However, now after reading so much, not sure if I should start my first cycle on just dbol. He's about 5-10, 180 doing 50mg/day for 12 weeks... and thats what I ordered.

Yes, I'm eating right (yes, I know I could be eating more) but want to give this a try... 420 10mg tabs ...



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[shifty_git]

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[G4R]

belated welcome aboard