HI Im going to start my first cycle

[BoxerTricks07]

Hi Everyone would just like to say hello to everyone and tell you abit about my self and ask a few questions to see if anyone can give me some suggestions

I come from england and iv been boxing for about 7 years now and although im a regular at the gym iv never done a cycle before and to be honest i was always against it. i suppose being single minded at the time. Anyway iv purchased some methandrostolone as iv heard these are quite successful with begginer cycles and im probably going to do a 12 week cycle with me reaching a maximum of 20g per day but i havent really thought about using anything else with them yet, because iv only bought 100 to start off my cycle im going to need to source more, iv got a good supplier but im not sure what methanol is, is it the same as methadrostenol(dianabol??
and has anyone got a good cycle to offer me maximum gains in muscle mass, also any suggestions of what to use with my dianabol?

thanks alot guys much appreciated
cheers

[mastertech]

welcome

[Big]

Welcome.
dbol should not be taken for 12 weeks, in my opinion it should not be taken for more than 4 or 5, and is not good to take by itself. This is actually the introduction section, ask your questions in the "questions and answers" section for more replies.

[BoxerTricks07]

cheers mate i dont know where that is? lol yeah i heard i shouldnt take it for more than 4 weeks, do you rekon i should use something like deca with it? i think 3ml a week and then maybe 4 for the last 4 weeks of the 12 and then something like cumide as a pct at the end of my cycle?? do you reckon that would work well? thanks

[IRONBULL05]

Brother,you have no clue as to what a cycle is and are going to hurt yourself.12wks on dbol is very foolish!!

Test only is best for a first cycle.

Do more research brother.Learn the proper way to cycle and then consider it.

Whats your stats by the way?

[BoxerTricks07]

yeah your rght i dont know completely how to do my cycle but thats why im asking for your help mate, i know iv been told that i shouldnt use dbol for more than 4 weeks but i was unsure as to what to go with, so basically i should just go with test e injection at 500mg per week 3.5 mg every 3-4 days? what about starting off my cycle with 4 weeks of d-bol? and how long should i use cumide for after my cycle has finished and in what dosage, cheers mate any help would e respected

[BoxerTricks07]

im 5.11 17st 25yrs old and iv got about 20% body fat

[BoxerTricks07]

maybe 16st its christmas lol

[IRONBULL05]

Wks 1-12 Test E 50Mmg ew(250mg Monday,250mg Thurs.)
Wks 1-4 dbol 30-40mg ed
Wks 14-18 PCT--Nolva 30mg ed,Clomid 150mg ed 1st wk,100mg ed 2nd wk, 50mg ed remainder.

Now pct can run take longer or shorter for everyone to work to its full potential so you will have to see if you need more after the 4 wks.

[BoxerTricks07]

cheers iron bull thats well useful mate, i was wondering how long i should use my pct for aswell so now iv got my cycle, diet and workout in place im going to do a few weeks downthe gym natural to burn abit of christmas off then ill be going on my first cycle in feb so by begining of may ill be able to show you guys the progress iv made and maybe you could give me some suggestions on what i might be doing wrong and what might need to be improved, cheers

[BoxerTricks07]

because iv got excess weight do you reckon if i stick to a good diet and build up i should trim down anyway and not bloat up?

[IRONBULL05]

The pct you should run at least 4 wks.If you feel you need more,than run it longer.This is a personal thing that is different for everyone.

I would definitely get and keep your diet in check above anything else.

For bloat,you can run adex @.5mg ed throughout the cycle.

[Big]

because iv got excess weight do you reckon if i stick to a good diet and build up i should trim down anyway and not bloat up?

Mate, you asked this exact question in at least 3 different threads that I just read. I appreciate your enthusiasm, but you can consolidate your questions into one thread to make them easier to follow once answered.
In any event, yes, diet will be the determining factor in what type of weight you put on.

[BoxerTricks07]

Yeah true your right, its just i want to get as much advice as i can seen as though its my first cycle and i cant ask anybody first hand

[BoxerTricks07]

i was unsure whether excessive cardio would hinder my muscle develpment

[importeater91]

i was unsure whether excessive cardio would hinder my muscle develpment

it will if your trying to bulk

[BoxerTricks07]

because of my metabolic rate? so basically as long as i stick to my 1.5-2gms of protein and 100grms+carbs along with *****3 and the normal saturated fats out of my meats and do 30-40 mins split before and after my workout of cardio i should lose excess and keep optimum muscle gains from my cycle? cheers

[rodgerj]

Welcome to the board man. Where you from? I am from LDN myself. Miss England....... there ain't no boxing clubs where I am anymore :-(

[BoxerTricks07]

im from notts im sure i could teach you a few moves

[BoxerTricks07]

you want to get a bag yourself with a speedball no1 can teach you better than yourself..FACT

[bigdog123]

i wouldnt do anything ur too young.... IMO
wait a few years 20- 21 and get all the info u can for now...
its been 2years i'm on this board and i'm starting to feel confident about starting a cycle... i consider myself young at 22 ...


A few pointers... never orals for more than 4 weeks...
never take deca alone it kills ur test....
PCT is the most important of ur cycle aside of eating,sleeping and training properly.

I don't want to tell you what to do but alot of ppl suggest doing a test only cycle to see how ur body will react... keep that in mind and make a smart decision, this stuff is very dangerous.

My 0.02 cents, good luck with ur decision

[darr]

IF your dead set on cycleing aas your best bet test enth 1-12 wks 500mg 250mg twice week then start PCT week 14 thats my op!Thats what i would tell all newbes!

[dovedescent]

welcome

[charbelc1978]

welcome i have learned good stuff from this board