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  1. 02-13-2009, 04:23 PM #1
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    New Member figuring out first cycle

    Greetings everyone,
    I'm 23 years old and have finally joined this thread after being a spectator for a while.
    I'm 5'11'' and roughly 230 lbs.
    I have been training for 5.5 years since the age of 18.
    Some inspirations for me include Pumping Iron and Bigger Stronger Faster.
    I have some questions I hope to eventually get answered.
    Cheers
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    I hope to eventually answer some of your questions.
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    ask away

    what is your bodyfat%

    Look into a single ester Test for a first cycle preferable Enanthate, or cypionate

    Read the PCT section as that is the most important part of any cycle
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    I have abs at about 200 so I'd imagine I'm 20% bf?
    I am in the process of cutting down to 210 or 215 before I commence cycling via cardio (stationary bike stair master)
    I eat plenty of tuna and chicken breast.
    My max bench is 385 which is what I focus on.

    For a first cycle I was thinking:
    1-12 week test e 400mg
    1-4 week dbol 20mg ed

    14 days after last test e injection a 2 week regiment of Clomiphene citrate.
    Also would I need to take LiquiDex or Tamoxifen Citrate during weeks 1-12 and if so what amounts would you recommend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NumeroUno View Post
    I have abs at about 200 so I'd imagine I'm 20% bf?
    I am in the process of cutting down to 210 or 215 before I commence cycling via cardio (stationary bike stair master)
    I eat plenty of tuna and chicken breast.
    My max bench is 385 which is what I focus on.

    For a first cycle I was thinking:
    1-12 week test e 400mg
    1-4 week dbol 20mg ed

    14 days after last test e injection a 2 week regiment of Clomiphene citrate.
    Also would I need to take LiquiDex or Tamoxifen Citrate during weeks 1-12 and if so what amounts would you recommend.

    looks like a decent cycle

    I would extend your PCT to a minimum of 4 weeks and have enough to go longer if you have any problems

    some use clomid/nolva during PCT i would suggest both

    Liquidex can be used during cycle if you feel you are gyno sensitive or see signs of it during cycle save the nolva and run it with the clomid for PCT
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  7. 02-13-2009, 06:19 PM #7
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    So 75mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva used in conjuction ed for 4 weeks would be sufficient for pct?

    Also how do I know if I am ready to com off of pct?
    Is it when my nuts return to full size?
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    PCT is tricky and there are a million ways to run it. best for you to have a general understanding of it. click the link below and spend some time researching it and getting comfortable with it OK?

    http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=77
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