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    new Aussie member 1st cycle help

    Hey im a new member from Australia. ive used the forums here for a while and deceided it was time i joined up.. im gunna run my 1st cycle in about 6 weeks(lean mass cycle) im thinking test prop beacause of the less water retention and im not too worried about pinning EOD, this is what im thinking ..

    my stats are
    height: 6 foot
    weight: 79 kgs
    bodyfat: 9-10%
    years training: 4years 18 months seriously
    cycle experience: none


    test prop 10 weeks - 150 mg EOD (mon,wed,fri,sun,tues etc...)
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    Clomid 40/40/20 Nolva 40/20/20
    but when should i start this ? 7-10 days after last pin ?
    also ive read that its a good idea to take HCG the whole way through a cycle 8 weeks or longer to prevent testicular shrinkage and help with retaining gains after, is this worth it ? and also what would my dosage look like ?

    becasue im looking to gain lean mass im thinking for diet id look at 6 meals 2x fat/pro and 4x carb pro.. how much over maintainence calories should i go to get the most out of this cycle while not putting on fat, and what macro split? 45pro/35carb/20fat

    any help or feedback would be great
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    Quote Originally Posted by BustaDime99 View Post
    Hey im a new member from Australia. ive used the forums here for a while and deceided it was time i joined up.. im gunna run my 1st cycle in about 6 weeks(lean mass cycle) im thinking test prop beacause of the less water retention and im not too worried about pinning EOD, this is what im thinking ..

    my stats are
    height: 6 foot
    weight: 79 kgs
    bodyfat: 9-10%
    years training: 4years 18 months seriously
    cycle experience: none


    test prop 10 weeks - 150 mg EOD (mon,wed,fri,sun,tues etc...) It really is a lot of pins, Sure you don't want to use Test E?
    PCT -

    Clomid 40/40/20 Nolva 40/20/20
    but when should i start this ? 7-10 days after last pin ? If taking prop you could start immediately or about 3 days.
    also ive read that its a good idea to take HCG the whole way throughIt helps not to lose fertility and I start it in week 3 and run it throughout until PCT starts a cycle 8 weeks or longer to prevent testicular shrinkage and help with retaining gains after, is this worth it ?I think so and also what would my dosage look like ?about 250iu 2x weekly shoud be fine

    becasue im looking to gain lean mass im thinking for diet id look at 6 meals 2x fat/pro and 4x carb pro.. how much over maintainence calories should i go to get the most out of this cycle while not putting on fat, and what macro split? 45pro/35carb/20fatHighly dependent on individual. post a diet for others to see. I like about 200-300 cals over maintenance. Carbs and pro up to workout in early evening. Then pro and unsat fats for rest of night.

    any help or feedback would be great
    post a diet to be looked at
    good luck

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    thanks for the input mate! well basically my diets looking like this

    meal 1: 45g pro 70g carb
    4 egg whites (13.5g pro) 1 cup oatmeal (48g carb) 1 whey scoop (24g pro) blueberries (8g carb)
    fishoil+ milti (3gfat)

    meal 2: 45g pro 26g fat
    Tuna 3/4 large tin (45 g pro) 30 almonds (20g fat) green vegies

    meal 3: 45g pro 70 carb 26g fat
    200g brown rice, (65g carb) 4 hard boiled eggs (15g fat) (23g pro)

    post workout:25g pro whey 50g carb destrose

    meal 4 post post workout: 45g pro 90g carb
    200g brown rice (65g carb) kangaroo steak 200g (45 g pro) 1 banana ( 25 g carb)

    meal 5: 45g pro 26g fat
    200g chicken breast (62g pro) (7g fat) + green vegies,1.5 tablespoon flax (27g fat)

    meal 6: 45g pro 26g fat
    250g cottage cheese (10g carb) (35g pro) (5g fat), 2 tablespoons natty peanut butter (25g fat)

    pro -271.5 , 1086 cals
    carb- 246 , 984 cals
    fat- 110 , 990 cals

    i need to tweek it a bit beacuse its a little high in fats but thats basically how its looking at the moment .

    also considering using clen while priming for this cycle for the anti catabolic effect as well as the fat loss what do you think of that idea ?

    once again all help and advise is greatly welcomed

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    thanks guys! anyone else got any criticism or help with my cycle/ diet ??

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    post diet in the diet section, the diet pros hang out there

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    Welcome, diet looks good, dont forget to adjust as your cycle goes on. Run the HCG , if you can get it. How old are you?

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    Thanks guys all feedback in much appreciated. im going to run the hcg ! Ive read/heard that running an AI throughout a cycle(suggested for hcg) will negativly effect gains, i have also read that this is untrue.. any thoughts on that guys .. should i just run the hcg from week 3 and if any signs of gyno or estrogen related sides showing up start running armidex at say .25mg eod untill sides are gone ? or would nolva be enough , if so what dosage .?

    thanks all

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    can anyone shed some light in responce to my latest question ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BustaDime99 View Post
    can anyone shed some light in responce to my latest question ?
    Welcome aboard. This is the welcome section, post your thread in the diet section and you'll get all the help you need.

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