New to Forum. Need Advice on first cycle.

**bmarshall** · 05-09-2012, 05:35 AM

hey,

im 24 and have been working out since i was 18 without sounding too cocky i am already in pretty good shape. As an 18yr old i weighed 66kg (im 6feet tall) 1 million protein shakes and gym workouts later i weigh 85kg but im looking to push over into the 90's and have decided 1 cycle of the good stuff should help me get there and also re ignite my recent lack of motivation. I have done a fair bit of research but would really appreciate some advice tailored to my desire

I was given a 10ml bottle of propionate and 10ml decanoate (eurochem laboratories) about a 18 months ago and they have sat in my draw since than. I only want to use the 10ml of propionate and than be done with it.

Is a cycle of 200mg per week for 5 weeks ok? i read propionate needs to be injected more often so im thinking 2x 100mg per week, or is this simply not enough? bear in mind im not looking to complete a big massive cycle, i dont want people at work thinking im on the juice.
Will i need estrogen blockers?
will i need to complete a PCT? if so what should it be?
is there anything else i should know?
the steriods expired in January? they should still be ok right?

thanks in advance for advice.

**bmarshall** · 05-09-2012, 05:48 AM

oops just read the rules not suppose to ask questions in here. i will re post in another section of forum.

sorry dont mean to piss anyone off. we all know we try our new toys before reading the instruction manual!!

**AuSSie SpuDD** · 05-09-2012, 06:26 AM

G'day mate.

Haha we do luv to play with our news toys before reading the manual. Cheers for the chuckle buddy

**brazey** · 05-09-2012, 10:40 AM

Welcome...

**stpete** · 05-09-2012, 03:09 PM

Welcome...You don't have enough to begin a proper cycle. I suggest you hit the PCT & Steroid Q&A and Nutrition Forum. Emphasis on the Nutrition Section. Do all your research and then ask your questions in the appropriate forum.

Good Luck

**bmarshall** · 05-10-2012, 04:52 AM

hey thanks for the advice have done a fair bit of reading in last 24 hours and learnt a hell of a lot. ill keep reading up for a few days but i think im ready for my first and only cycle. my diet is pretty good i eat healthy and consume the right amount of calories and i train solidly.

i am struggling to find information on cycles. i have found plenty of beginner cycles but i cant find out why i cant just do this small 10ml over 5 - 6 week cycle that i want to do? the problem is that i dont have access to any more and im told by the only person i know there is a 2 month waiting list. plus its $300 aussie for a 10ml vial.

i will finish studying up and post another thread in coming days. would love to hear from anyone interesting in helping me out.

**Back In Black** · 05-10-2012, 05:14 AM

Prop needs to be shot 100-150mg every other day. So, your bottle is 100mg per ml? That would mean your 10 ml bottle will actually last 19 days only.

**bmarshall** · 05-10-2012, 05:32 AM

thanks stem but why cant i stretch it out? yes it is 100mg per ml

i have posted same questions in a new thread in the questions area. i cant copy the link because im a newbie. i would love if you could have a look

**bmarshall** · 05-10-2012, 05:34 AM

i mean, will it not have any effect if i only have this small amount? surely it would??

someone please explain every other day.. is that like every 3 days or something?

**Back In Black** · 05-10-2012, 05:52 AM

Originally Posted by bmarshall

i mean, will it not have any effect if i only have this small amount? surely it would??

someone please explain every other day.. is that like every 3 days or something?

Eg injections on a Monday Wednesday Friday Sunday Tuesday etc.

Of I ran prop it would be for 8weeks. Less than 3 weeks will be pointless, yes.

**bmarshall** · 05-10-2012, 06:33 AM

damn what if i stack with the deca ?? and inject every other day + 1 lol e.g monday, thursday, saturday

sorry if im becoming annoying. i really want to run a cycle with what i have. i actually have about 12 ml of each i have 2 other vials but they both have only about 2ml left. i was going to toss them there about 4 months past expiry.

help me out man, surely i can run a cycle with what i got.

**Back In Black** · 05-10-2012, 07:02 AM

It's your first cycle you need to stick to test only. And you need a lot more test. Full stop. Wait until you can get enough before you start, as I said, what you have is pointless as it stands

**Tigershark** · 05-10-2012, 07:06 AM

Welcome.

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