My first cycle

[bigfish89]

Hi all, great site and great info, I'm 23, 6 foot 1, 207 pounds, been training about 4 years now, I have recently bought some test cyp, I'm doing 1.5 mil a week injecting into my glute with nolvadex as a pct, is there any other advice you can offer me or tell me if I'm going wrong anywhere, my diet is good and I train 4 times a week, thanks in advance!

[kronik420]

an AI is needed, and more than just nolva for PCT is needed , might wanna add clomid. also i think you would be better off waiting a couple more years before starting. good luck

[bigfish89]

I appreciate the advice, so 2 weeks after my last jab start take nolva and chlomid?

[kronik420]

ya , and get an AI.

[bigfish89]

Any preference?

[kronik420]

there all good, id go with arimidex only bcoz its cheaper and does basically the same thing.

[Bloodhoun116]

Dont listen to what kronik says, hes a big old asshole. He ****ed me over and didnt help me with anything.

[bigfish89]

So I'm to carry on with the test cyp get some armidex, then nolva and chlomid as my pct, thanks for the advice I appreciate it

[bigfish89]

His advice was right to you, your 19 and your muscles are not developed you have enough testosterone in you to gain at a decent rate, read the rules about abuse and swearing

[Bloodhoun116]

Oh sorry, i just get upset sometimes. And why should i wait for my test levels to start decreasing? The avg male produces 6mg of test a day and somewhere around 40-60 mg per week. Why would i settle for that when i can easily get 400mg per week or more?

[kronik420]

lol.

[bigfish89]

Happily do as you please I don't know you so the affects won't affect me, if you ask for advice you should probably accept it

[kronik420]

at 19 your body hasnt finished growing yet, but at the end of the day, its up to you, if you want to fk yourself up for the rest of your life bcoz of a stupid decision that you made when you wew 19, then byall means go ahead, dont let me stop you.

[kronik420]

thanks big fish, post some before and after pics would like to see the results. good luck

[Bloodhoun116]

Dont sit here and talk down to me just because you guys are older than me. And dont say that at 19 my body isnt dont growing yet. Arnold started doping when he was like 17 and look at howhe turned out. Hes perfectly healthy at 60+ years of age. And by you telling me that im gonna regret making this decision and im gonna fk myself up and then telling me to go ahead is a d-bag move on your part. You're not gonna reversepsychology me into not achieving my dream body.

[bigfish89]

Good luck

[kronik420]

oh so you know arnold , how is he?

[Bloodhoun116]

Hes doing pretty good actually, he just had a major role in a movie called the expendables 2. Im not sure if youve heard of it, but hes alive and kicking, after all those years of steroids. So dont belittle me please.

[kronik420]

lol just bcoz your alive doesnt mean you dont have health issues.

[Bloodhoun116]

And youre saying he does? Because from the looks of his physical activity, all seems to be going well

[kronik420]

no im saying theres no way of knowing his current health issues, if any, unless you are him or his doctor .

[bigfish89]

Bloodhound can you go and ruin someone's else thread please (maybe your own) I'm here for genuine advice not immature arguments

[Bloodhoun116]

So this is the response i get for trying to get some help.. Pfft typical

[bigfish89]

You got your advice and chose to ignore it getting your dream body with or with steroids is gonna take years so why not wait a few years when your fully developed and less health risks which is obviously the most important factor

[Bloodhoun116]

Because man! I dont have a few years, i want it now. I want to be big while im still in my early twenties. I dont wanna be some jacked old man, how many chicks can i get like that? None thats how many. Im trying to take advantage of my youth and you guys are criticizing me and trying to break me down any opportunity you guys get

[lestat85]

No one is trying to break you done. There are serious health risks to consider. Just because some did steroids young and turned out fine does not mean everyone will. Ultimately, it is your decision to make. Personally, I don't think it's worth it just to impress girls, but the choice is yours.

[Bloodhoun116]

Isnt this a steroid forum website?! Why the hell are you guys giving me crap for wanting to use roids?! Jesus christ if i wanted all this negative feedbakc, i wouldve just asked this question on a youtube video for christs sake.

[fit2bOld]

Bloodhoun116:But you choose to ask those with some experience, had you been 26 worked out for 7 years 215 lbs. with 10% body fat the answers would have been much different.


Bigfish:Sorry bigfish that this guy hijacked your thread. At 23 you should also consider waiting. I personally made by best gains between 23-26(naturally) once I got my diet straight and stopped going out late having a good time.

You'll get back what your willing to put into it.

[Bloodhoun116]

I didnt hijack his thread man, ****.. Im sorry if it comes off that way, but i just wanted some answers. Fit, can you take a look at my thread and tell me which of those cycles would be best for me?

[fit2bOld]

no bro

[Bloodhoun116]

Omg man please dude, give me something other than eat! I wanna get huge and shredded man, just tell me the cycles man thats all i really need. Dont worry about my health or well-being man, just tell me what ineed to take man im begging you.

[lestat85]

No one here will give you advice on a cycle. It's your choice what you wish to do and it sounds like you will do this regardless of the advice given, but you will be on your own for figuring it out. Good luck man.

[Bloodhoun116]

Dude are u freaking kidding me? Screw all of you, i hope you rot in hell for this

[Bloodhoun116]

This is ridiculous. I come here for freaking help and you guys all bash me. Fk off

[JWP806]

This is ridiculous. I come here for freaking help and you guys all bash me. Fk off

You seem like you are pretty mature. The point isnt to wait until you "muscles stop growing," as someone stated above. It's so that you dont wreck your endocrine system and be stuck on HRT your entire life.

[brazey]

To the op; welcome to the board. Questions should be directed to the Q&A section for responses. I'll just say here that everyone is different but the common advice is to wait until age 25 to cycle. Prior to that your endocrine system could still be developing and the introduction of exogenous hormones could possibly cause a lifetime of issues including low testosterone and erectile dysfunction. If you choose to cycle before age 25 all the info one would need is located on the Board.

[stevet68]

Welcome BigFish, the maturity difference between 19 and 23 is evident in this thread!

[lestat85]

Welcome BigFish, the maturity difference between 19 and 23 is evident in this thread!

Very evident lol. I read some of these young guys posts, usually mad at not being told what they want to hear and can only hope I wasn't that bad when I was their age.

[stevet68]

I'm sure we were all just as headstong at that age

[lestat85]

Yeah. Takes a while to realize we don't know everything and should listen to those with more experience.