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  1. 10-01-2012, 07:30 PM #1
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    Trying to fine tune my 1st cycle (test tbol) can anyone help out

    Hey guys. I'm a newbe here and looking for a little guidance from any veterans out there who may be willing to help offer advice on my 1st time. I posted a thread before but for some reason dont have permission to get into my profile yet so i cant find it.
    Stats- 38 y.o. , 178lbs, 5'8" about 14-16% bf (yeah, i know, thats bad..lol)

    The plan is test E 250mg 2x wk. for 12 weeks
    then i have approx. a seven or eight week supply of tbol (depending on what dose i go with)

    question is do i run the tbol for the first 7 or 8 weeks (as a kickstart) or do i run it for the last 7 to 8 weeks??? someone please help with that. also should i go with 40 or 50 mg ed? is 50mg ed for 7 wk safe?? considering its my first cycle?

    2.) how many grams of protien intake should i be aiming for eveyday while on cycle?
    3.)do i start pct right away, day after my last test dose or do i wait two weeks before starting pct?

    My pct plan is nolva 40/40/20/20....am i leaving something out that i should be using for pct along with the nolva?
    and other than milk thistle should i be running any other suppliments while on cycle?

    Any help/feedback/suggestions and critisisms are welcome. thanks guys
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    Welcome...Just stick wyour test for now. 1.5-2.0gms protein per lb of body weight. 14 days after last injection is when you should start your clomid 100/50/25/25 and Nolva cycle. Need to hit PCT Section. Also need to check out an AI and HCG to use during your cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stpete View Post
    Welcome...Just stick wyour test for now. 1.5-2.0gms protein per lb of body weight. 14 days after last injection is when you should start your clomid 100/50/25/25 and Nolva cycle. Need to hit PCT Section. Also need to check out an AI and HCG to use during your cycle.

    You can also post this in the Steroid Q&A for more views/thoughts.

    This ^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by stpete View Post
    Welcome...Just stick wyour test for now. 1.5-2.0gms protein per lb of body weight. 14 days after last injection is when you should start your clomid 100/50/25/25 and Nolva cycle. Need to hit PCT Section. Also need to check out an AI and HCG to use during your cycle.

    You can also post this in the Steroid Q&A for more views/thoughts.
    Awsome man! thanks for the help with the protien intake and for the proper time to begin pct. Just one more thing though. It may seem like a dumb question but what is "AI" and "HCG"....Can you help me out with proper usage for the hcg, and what it is and what does, what its used for. I would really appriciate it bro.

    Also are you saying that i should be running both nolva and clomid for pct, or just one or the other?
    Im curios why you say to o with the test only, i really been psyched with looking forward to the tbol, but your not the 1st person whp has told me to leave it out. is it because in a beginner, is it danerous for a 1st timmer? just wondering what the reason is
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    Quote Originally Posted by newguy33 View Post
    Awsome man! thanks for the help with the protien intake and for the proper time to begin pct. Just one more thing though. It may seem like a dumb question but what is "AI" and "HCG"....Can you help me out with proper usage for the hcg, and what it is and what does, what its used for. I would really appriciate it bro.

    Also are you saying that i should be running both nolva and clomid for pct, or just one or the other?
    Im curios why you say to o with the test only, i really been psyched with looking forward to the tbol, but your not the 1st person whp has told me to leave it out. is it because in a beginner, is it danerous for a 1st timmer? just wondering what the reason is
    Welcome!

    AI is an aromatase inhibitor like arimidex - http://www.steroid.com/Arimidex.php
    HCG is Human Chorionic Gonadotropin - http://www.steroid.com/HCG.php

    It is usually recommended to take both nolva and clomid for pct
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