18 years old set on using test

[fizzif]

Hi everbody, i know theres gonna be alot of flame towards this and im not even sure if this is the right forum to be posting this on.

Im currently 18 and my friend and I are doing a competition just before and after pictures, winner takes 5grand. When we told my family friend about this and asked for any advice or any supplements to take to help out with the competition he suggested test. I trust him, he's in his mid 20s uses gear and seems to know what he's doing. He wants to put us on an extremely low dose (ill have to get back on what type it is and how much the dose is.) He's aware of the dangers of steroid use at a young age and says that on the dose he's giving us we'll be able to see great gains but wont suffer from the side effects.

However, after reading tons of forums on this subject im having second thoughts about whether or not he really knows what he's talking about. I know there is safe steroid use of course, but is that possible at my age? Im currently 6'2" 190lbs, we wanted to take an 8 week cycle he said we wouldn't need pct on the dose he's giving us but im not taking any chances if we do go through with this so im going to take test boosters and some estrogen blockers (please excuse me for not knowing the names of these products).

We get the test next monday and are going to start taking it on the 6th of january, both of us are set on using it, but im honestly terrified of stunting my test production for the rest of my life, is this a guaranteed side effect? any temporary side effects are fine and worth it, its just the permanent effects that worry me.

I would really appreciate it if i didn't get any replies like "youre an idiot" even though i probably will, i just need more knowledge from people who have actually used. I understand the seriousness of this and need urgent help.

and i know how close to impossible this is, but if i got bw done and my body had hit its peak of test production would it be safe then?

[kronik420]

Hi everbody, i know theres gonna be alot of flame towards this and im not even sure if this is the right forum to be posting this on.

Im currently 18 and my friend and I are doing a competition just before and after pictures, winner takes 5grand. When we told my family friend about this and asked for any advice or any supplements to take to help out with the competition he suggested test. I trust him, he's in his mid 20s uses gear and seems to know what he's doing. He wants to put us on an extremely low dose (ill have to get back on what type it is and how much the dose is.) He's aware of the dangers of steroid use at a young age and says that on the dose he's giving us we'll be able to see great gains but wont suffer from the side effects.

However, after reading tons of forums on this subject im having second thoughts about whether or not he really knows what he's talking about. I know there is safe steroid use of course, but is that possible at my age? Im currently 6'2" 190lbs, we wanted to take an 8 week cycle he said we wouldn't need pct on the dose he's giving us but im not taking any chances if we do go through with this so im going to take test boosters and some estrogen blockers (please excuse me for not knowing the names of these products).

We get the test next monday and are going to start taking it on the 6th of january, both of us are set on using it, but im honestly terrified of stunting my test production for the rest of my life, is this a guaranteed side effect? any temporary side effects are fine and worth it, its just the permanent effects that worry me.

I would really appreciate it if i didn't get any replies like "youre an idiot" even though i probably will, i just need more knowledge from people who have actually used. I understand the seriousness of this and need urgent help.

you said it....

[fizzif]

that doesnt help me

[Alinjr]

Welcome. You are too young to start my man. Wait it out.

[kronik420]

your doing this for 5 grand.. if you win... any idea on how much it will cost you if you fk your body up??

alot more than 5k i guarantee you...

[Alinjr]

^^^this

[fizzif]

even off of one cycle? all i really need to know is will it **** up my hormone production in the long run

[kronik420]

even off of one cycle? all i really need to know is will it **** up my hormone production in the long run

there is a good chance it will, and yes even off of one cycle

read this:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...r-the-young***

it is a compilation of threads in which people alot like your self have fked their bodies up, please read

[fizzif]

thanks i appreciate the hasty feedback, however disappointing the news is

[kronik420]

and btw, don't listen to your 'friend' that says you don't need PCT etc.. btw how low? what's the point in shutting down your natural test production for a low dose?? your test is already very high, a low dose would do basically jack sh!t except shut you down...

[Wes201]

This "family friend", you need to kick him in his nuts. Hes a 100% moron. He is about to ruin your life. This guy obviously has no idea what the hell he's doing and certainly has no business giving aas to 18 year old kids. And theres no such thing as not neededing pct, most stupidest thing i heard. And as far as you saying your aware of the dangers of steroid use, well buddy, actually you havent got a clue!!! because if you were really aware, you would not even be considering this obsurd idea.....Do yourseld a favor and stay on here and look up all there is to find on ai's, serms, pct, hpta, system, endocrine system, sealing of growth plates

[kronik420]

This "family friend", you need to kick him in his nuts. Hes a 100% moron. He is about to ruin your life. This guy obviously has no idea what the hell he's doing and certainly has no business giving aas to 18 year old kids. And theres no such thing as not neededing pct, most stupidest thing i heard. And as far as you saying your aware of the dangers of steroid use, well buddy, actually you havent got a clue!!! because if you were really aware, you would not even be considering this obsurd idea.....Do yourseld a favor and stay on here and look up all there is to find on ai's, serms, pct, hpta, system, endocrine system, sealing of growth plates

or better yet, forget about steroids, go outside drink, party, and fk as many girls as you can... act your age lol but seriously, is you want to improve your body, hit the nutrition, supplement, and lifting techniques sections.

[fizzif]

thanks again, most dissapointing thing is the fact that my bud and i threw away our money, its $150 (us) btw if you wanted to know how much we were gonna take, idk if that gives you any idea or not

[kronik420]

thanks again, most dissapointing thing is the fact that my bud and i threw away our money, its $150 (us) btw if you wanted to know how much we were gonna take, idk if that gives you any idea or not

was just curious.. doesn't matter, doesn't make any difference..

150$.. you got off cheap, just imagine the doctor bills and sh!t if you or him or both ended up screwing your selves up.. and between the 2 of you, id be willing to bet that at least one of you would have had long term problems....

so you decided against it yea?

[brazey]

Welcome to the Board. Hope you take the advice already given. Any amount of testosterone you take no matter how low will shut you down. And at 18 your testosterone should be at its peak so taking a low dose will do nothing positive but ruin what you already have. Everyone is different but the common advice is to wait until age 25 to cycle. Prior to that your endocrine system could still be developing and the introduction of exogenous hormones could possibly cause a lifetime of issues including low testosterone and erectile dysfunction. The risk is just not worth it.

[fizzif]

yeah i have, just gotta tell my buddy, its 6 in the morning here ive been researching since 10pm, too many red flags

[kronik420]

yeah i have, just gotta tell my buddy, its 6 in the morning here ive been researching since 10pm, too many red flags

good call bro, good luck for the future.

[diesel101]

Use what mother nature gave you first bro!You have youre whole life to think about going to the next step.
I was 41 years old before I did my first cycle.

[stpete]

Welcome...^^^^All great advice. And remember, no matter how low the dose, you are still shutting yourself down. Not good.

[DigitalGorilla]

You want help right? what your missing is there is no help. You are doing a horrible thing to your body right now. And as someone said --- if you are using it now - when you can do it natty - what are you gonna do at 35? when shits aint working like it used to?? EVERYONE in here is right wether You like it or not....you knew it already before you posted - this was a bad idea.....so as far as that goes --- yea your right --- its a bad idea!

[DigitalGorilla]

At your age - you can do it natural....trust me!!!!

[Bigshotvictoria]

Let your friend do the gear and win the $5k. While he's doing it you get your training and diet absolutely perfect. Tell him double or nothing for the most lean muscle gain at the end of the year.

[Edwin23q]

Mate you'll get more gains without aas than with a low dose at your age.

[fizzif]

so im set on not doing it, and my friend agrees with me, but he reminded me that we took test boosters in the past. Ive only done it once, and it they just increased the amount of test your body produced naturally. It wasnt a smart idea and we were pretty stupid when we did it, just impatient like most teens. Do you know whether or not weve already ****ed ourselves up by using test boosters? we used one i think its called a50, and then i used half a cycle of 1xd, stopped cause he started getting stomach problems with it and we like to be using the same things at the same time. Also, just so i dont have to open up a new post, how can i increase my daily appetite? I see people like furious pete on youtube eating a ****ing shitload and i know diet is key, my problem is eating enough, i try to force feed myself too, but id like to not get as full as fast and delay the force feeding.
And also preworkout kills my appetite

[fizzif]

like ive said before were both not going to do it. And this answer wont make a difference in that decision. But can we actually gain like 15 lbs of muscle with proper diet and training over 3 months? It just seems insane without help

[sixfootseven]

don't do it man, wait until youre older. You will regret it your whole life and you may not even get the money

[kronik420]

so im set on not doing it, and my friend agrees with me, but he reminded me that we took test boosters in the past. Ive only done it once, and it they just increased the amount of test your body produced naturally. It wasnt a smart idea and we were pretty stupid when we did it, just impatient like most teens. Do you know whether or not weve already ****ed ourselves up by using test boosters? we used one i think its called a50, and then i used half a cycle of 1xd, stopped cause he started getting stomach problems with it and we like to be using the same things at the same time. Also, just so i dont have to open up a new post, how can i increase my daily appetite? I see people like furious pete on youtube eating a ****ing shitload and i know diet is key, my problem is eating enough, i try to force feed myself too, but id like to not get as full as fast and delay the force feeding.
And also preworkout kills my appetite

eat smaller meals more often, test boosters are a waste of money, better off spending that $$ on food and stay away from pro hormones. i wouldn't worry too much about the test boosters, you should be fine.

like ive said before were both not going to do it. And this answer wont make a difference in that decision. But can we actually gain like 15 lbs of muscle with proper diet and training over 3 months? It just seems insane without help

maybe 10-12 (say 1 lb per week) but that won't be all muscle, you will gain some fat, but it depends on how 'clean' your diet is....

[kronik420]

lean bulking:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...*#.UNbTouTqlas

[kronik420]

another thing you can try, is to drink your food, it shouldn't fill you up as much, eat as many meals as you can in a day then add a couple of these in:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...e#.UNbVuuTqlas

[Far from massive]

On top of everything else, if you are having a contest for 5 gs and both taking test from the same guy....whats the point? Neither of you will have an advantage, so even if it was for 5 million it would not make sense.

Sorry its early....and I just saw your last post. Congrats on making a decision you will be happy about for the rest of your life!

[BIGGUNSWANTED]

welcome and good luck...............agree with everyone too young

[A.T.T.G.]

welcome