First cycle not liking the feeling

[beergut75]

I have been taking supplements from GNC, Complete Nutrition and a number of other places for several years with no noticeable results.

I decided to try a stack of PGH, Winn, Test600, Var10, Clen, with milk thistle for liver. I started with the recommended dosage from the bottle around 12:15 it's now 2:21 and I am tweeked. I don't like this feeling but I seem to be settling down???

Obviously I need to start out much slower and with smaller dosage.

What do you guys recommend?

Right now I feel like I have severe AD/HD and I go from sweating to feeling like throwing up.

[clarky.]

welcome have a read at this

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

[brazey]

Welcome to the board.

[beergut75]

Welcome to the board.

Thank you. I will be glad when this ride is over. It's been 4 hrs and I am still jacked up. I called a buddy who is a Dr. and he acted like it wasn't that big of a deal. Basically told me that I should have started with small doses and worked my way up. He recommended lots of water and possibly benedryl if it got worse. He said it's been 4hrs the worst is over that i should start turning the corner soon. He also said if i were having a reaction that it would have happened by now.

[bdos]

welcome

[GSXRvi6]

So you decided to just mix a bunch of crap? When you say bottle, I assume these are all orals? Are these those "legal steroids" ?

I have been taking supplements from GNC, Complete Nutrition and a number of other places for several years with no noticeable results.

I decided to try a stack of PGH, Winn, Test600, Var10, Clen, with milk thistle for liver. I started with the recommended dosage from the bottle around 12:15 it's now 2:21 and I am tweeked. I don't like this feeling but I seem to be settling down???

Obviously I need to start out much slower and with smaller dosage.

What do you guys recommend?

Right now I feel like I have severe AD/HD and I go from sweating to feeling like throwing up.

[beergut75]

So you decided to just mix a bunch of crap? When you say bottle, I assume these are all orals? Are these those "legal steroids" ?

not exactly mixing a bunch of crap. It is a stack that several of my gym buddies swear by. They are obviously more tolerant than I am though. I really feel that the Clen dosage was the culprit. I feel much better now but still more alert than I typically am at this time of night. I am 6' and weigh 190# and all of the weight is in my gut. I was able to get down to 178 last winter through diet exercise and supplements. Summer has been tough with travel, cookouts and generally a poor diet and work out routine. I am trying to get rid of the gut then pack on some muscle.

Obviously I made some poor choices today.

[GSXRvi6]

All the guys on here say start with 1 thing, you threw in 5 things all at once, no blood work, no AI, I see nothing for PCT, no doses etc. When I googled your stuff it shows up as that "legal stuff", aka Var10 is not Anavar and TEST600 is not testosterone. Is that the stuff your talking about?

not exactly mixing a bunch of crap. It is a stack that several of my gym buddies swear by. They are obviously more tolerant than I am though. I really feel that the Clen dosage was the culprit. I feel much better now but still more alert than I typically am at this time of night. I am 6' and weigh 190# and all of the weight is in my gut. I was able to get down to 178 last winter through diet exercise and supplements. Summer has been tough with travel, cookouts and generally a poor diet and work out routine. I am trying to get rid of the gut then pack on some muscle.

Obviously I made some poor choices today.

[crazy mike]

Here's the problem 1. don't listen to gym talk & bro-science. You don't know anything about what you are doing. You took a bunch of crap and too much. With all this crap why Clen?? big mistake.

Now I won't get on you on that just FYI . Please read everything on here I won't go into all but get yourself educated and begin again.
Good luck ...crazy mike

[probuild42]

welcome

[>Good Luck<]

I have been taking supplements from GNC, Complete Nutrition and a number of other places for several years with no noticeable results.

I decided to try a stack of PGH, Winn, Test600, Var10, Clen, with milk thistle for liver. I started with the recommended dosage from the bottle around 12:15 it's now 2:21 and I am tweeked. I don't like this feeling but I seem to be settling down???

Obviously I need to start out much slower and with smaller dosage.

What do you guys recommend?

Right now I feel like I have severe AD/HD and I go from sweating to feeling like throwing up.

Take all of what you have and probably bought off the attached site and toss it all in the trash. You have some nasty wannabe type gear and its good for the trash. Sorry about your cash. Buy local and say no to oral only cycles. TEST IS BEST

[beergut75]

Take all of what you have and probably bought off the attached site and toss it all in the trash. You have some nasty wannabe type gear and its good for the trash. Sorry about your cash. Buy local and say no to oral only cycles. TEST IS BEST

I feel like this is probably the answer. This stuff I bought was supposed to be legit and I don't think it was. As for the Test 600 I think it is no different than any of that other crap from the supplement stores.

I don't know anyone local to talk to or that sells stuff.

I want a good cutting stack or just one thing would be fine. I am over the oral thing also I think an injection would be better.

I feel like an idiot but whatever you have to start somewhere.

[austinite]

Welcome to the board!

[beergut75]

Here's the problem 1. don't listen to gym talk & bro-science. You don't know anything about what you are doing. You took a bunch of crap and too much. With all this crap why Clen?? big mistake.

Now I won't get on you on that just FYI . Please read everything on here I won't go into all but get yourself educated and begin again.
Good luck ...crazy mike

So what would you recommend for a guy that is 6'0 190# with probably 25% body fat. I don't really have any muscle to lose just a gut. I'm not really focused on gaining mass at this point. My goal is to restore my libido, and get flat abs. After that I will be focused on gaining some muscle mass.

[Back In Black]

So what would you recommend for a guy that is 6'0 190# with probably 25% body fat. I don't really have any muscle to lose just a gut. I'm not really focused on gaining mass at this point. My goal is to restore my libido, and get flat abs. After that I will be focused on gaining some muscle mass.

Diet and cardio. There is no substitute.

Please visit, and spend some time in, our nutrition forum. It will yield far greater results then any magic pill. (They don't exist btw but most of us are a sucker for a marketing man at some stage)

[JWP806]

So what would you recommend for a guy that is 6'0 190# with probably 25% body fat. I don't really have any muscle to lose just a gut. I'm not really focused on gaining mass at this point. My goal is to restore my libido, and get flat abs. After that I will be focused on gaining some muscle mass.

Cardio and cardio. And having a meal plan to follow that puts you at a caloric deficit.

No need to fvck with any other stuff until you can prove you can stick with a plan for a good amount of time. It's relatively easy to drop 30 pounds with a good diet and steady cardio plan.

[Euroholic]

Hey!!!!!!

[MRNJ1992]

If I not mistaken, aren't they all the designer so called steroids? Never taken them but probably garbage. Expensive and useless. even though its not the real deal, a lot of things to take at once. Just my opinion.

[>Good Luck<]

I feel like this is probably the answer. This stuff I bought was supposed to be legit and I don't think it was. As for the Test 600 I think it is no different than any of that other crap from the supplement stores.

I don't know anyone local to talk to or that sells stuff.

I want a good cutting stack or just one thing would be fine. I am over the oral thing also I think an injection would be better.

I feel like an idiot but whatever you have to start somewhere.

Dont worry you have much to learn and a long road to travel. Diet and cardio is your best bet because with such a high bf% any and all steroids will have some adverse effects on your health. Anyone "can" use steroids but not everyone should. No doubt, steroids seem to make things easier but if along the way you lose your libido, develope breasts and acne, and possibly cardiovascular damage- what's the point?

If you insist on using gear, start with test only @ 500mg injected weekly maximum. Test is capable to promote fat loss as well as muscle growth aka cutting or bulking. You will need to get farmilliar with hcg and Ai. They will both be very very important on cycle. You will also need to learn about pct using nolvadex and clomid. Also very very important after you cycle.

Fyi our sponsor sells ai's and pct stuff but not hcg. The products are safe and legit. The hcg and teat you'll need to find. Should be easy in states, europe and canada to say the least

[beergut75]

Which test should I take? Where do I get it? what should I cycle with it?

I used to have a script for testim then my insurance ran out. I have almost no libido and too much belly fat I believe test will help.

[>Good Luck<]

Which test should I take? Where do I get it? what should I cycle with it?

I used to have a script for testim then my insurance ran out. I have almost no libido and too much belly fat I believe test will help.

Whoa easy with the rule breaking. Dont ask for gear on here.

Do some research and find what's right for u. Common first use is test e or c.

[beergut75]

Whoa easy with the rule breaking. Dont ask for gear on here.

Do some research and find what's right for u. Common first use is test e or c.

Nit breaking any rules just asking for advice. I can go back to my doctor and get a topical or possibly a shot. All I was asking is what is a reputable site to purchase "supplements". Which type of testosterone is best for cutting fat? I have heard of Test E, C, and P?

The more research I do the more confused I become.

[beergut75]

Whoa easy with the rule breaking. Dont ask for gear on here.

Do some research and find what's right for u. Common first use is test e or c.

so can some one PM me I have some questions and I don't want to violate any rules.

[Back In Black]

You certainly sound like you are breaking the rules. Exactly what 'supplements' are you after? We have a dedicated supplement section you know.

[>Good Luck<]

so can some one PM me I have some questions and I don't want to violate any rules.

We don't source aka give out information on how to aquire steroids or "suppliments". Its not a matter of grammer or secret words and codes on how to find gear. Ar-r.com has research chems that you may be able to utilize for pct and ai and peptides I believe, but no steroids. If your doc prescribes you test you won't need to find a website, you'll go to the pharmacy.

Now, if you want to go the back roads, you can research which brand you can trust here on the "discussion of brands" section. This has been helpful for me as there are lots of low grade ugls you won't want to spend money on. Check there for info that may give you direction, but you won't find any websites or suppliers around here. If you do, you can bet that its a scam and you'll be a sucker if you try using it.

Recap:

Don't ask for sources on the open forum or in pm's.

Don't try to sell in open forums or pm's

Don't hint that you need sources...thats phishing/fishing

Go to the "discussion of brands" section for info on reliable UGL's and pharmaceutical grade brands

[beergut75]

We don't source aka give out information on how to aquire steroids or "suppliments". Its not a matter of grammer or secret words and codes on how to find gear. Ar-r.com has research chems that you may be able to utilize for pct and ai and peptides I believe, but no steroids. If your doc prescribes you test you won't need to find a website, you'll go to the pharmacy.

Now, if you want to go the back roads, you can research which brand you can trust here on the "discussion of brands" section. This has been helpful for me as there are lots of low grade ugls you won't want to spend money on. Check there for info that may give you direction, but you won't find any websites or suppliers around here. If you do, you can bet that its a scam and you'll be a sucker if you try using it.

Recap:

Don't ask for sources on the open forum or in pm's.

Don't try to sell in open forums or pm's

Don't hint that you need sources...thats phishing/fishing

Go to the "discussion of brands" section for info on reliable UGL's and pharmaceutical grade brands

Thank you that is somewhat helpful.

My doctor is the costly route to go and it takes alot of time. The last time I was on TESTIM and I don't feel I absorbed the same amount everyday. I had some highs and lows that I attribute to absorption?

I will look around more and I have visited AR-R and began researching there. I feel i was ripped off at buysteroid.com and want to make sure it doesn't happen again.

[>Good Luck<]

Thank you that is somewhat helpful.

My doctor is the costly route to go and it takes alot of time. The last time I was on TESTIM and I don't feel I absorbed the same amount everyday. I had some highs and lows that I attribute to absorption?

I will look around more and I have visited AR-R and began researching there. I feel i was ripped off at buysteroid.com and want to make sure it doesn't happen again.

I feel your pain and understand this is the beginning. Many of us get ripped off, myself included. I've shot gear for weeks before finding out it was crap not to mention the wasted cash involved.

Your best bet is to find a hand to hand guy in your local gym or whatever and if he's looking swoled up, you csn bet his gear is good. As for the internet, there's a huge risk for your cash witb anything you buy online. Especially illegal drugs. Looks too good to be true, probably is. Looks to easy?? Probably is...

You'll eventually start to make some progress in your search but don't be in a rush. Could end up wasting more cash

[beergut75]

Thank you. I came here looking for some help and your response is more what I was looking for. I get that I am ignorant but I have to start somewhere.

I raced Pro motocross for years so I know some things about training but we trained more for endurance and wanted to keep our weight as low as possible. Light meant fast. I took things back then but basically the team had a "physician" and I use that term loosely shoot us full of crap. We had no idea what went into our bodies.

If the average person came onto a moto forum he would be laughed at for his lack of knowledge kind of like I am here.

[phunny]

Welcome! Be prepared for a fried brain trying to sort it all out

[>Good Luck<]

Thank you. I came here looking for some help and your response is more what I was looking for. I get that I am ignorant but I have to start somewhere.

I raced Pro motocross for years so I know some things about training but we trained more for endurance and wanted to keep our weight as low as possible. Light meant fast. I took things back then but basically the team had a "physician" and I use that term loosely shoot us full of crap. We had no idea what went into our bodies.

If the average person came onto a moto forum he would be laughed at for his lack of knowledge kind of like I am here.

Your not being laughed at but maube hazed a little.

I already like your attitude and if there is anything I can do to help u I will. Any chance you're a Canadian like me??